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Really not a footie fan eh?
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On that note, neither did Scotland, Wales or Ireland. Shows how bad we are.
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Yeah, but at least Scotland beat Italy and France (twice).
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Really not a footie fan eh?
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I know that, I live in Scotland 
Also, I believe it's getting off-topic, this is about server merging not about how much Britan sucks.
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[/ QUOTE ]what England Vs Germany in football again.....yeah i know it bad :P
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Really not a footie fan eh?
(England didn't even qualify. We suck. Hard)
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I know that, I live in Scotland Also, I believe it's getting off-topic, this is about server merging not about how much Britan sucks.
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Isn't that the same thing?
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[/ QUOTE ]what England Vs Germany in football again.....yeah i know it bad :P
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Really not a footie fan eh?
(England didn't even qualify. We suck. Hard)
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No, Britan merging isn't set till 2010
can we stop with teh quoting and reposting [censored] tbh
this is someone who is upset about the lack of teams past lvl 8-10 on Vills
Server merge would help out ppl who like to team and not farm. I would like to hear the reason even if it is a imfamous one liner why this is not possible or possible for the forseeable future
numbers have dropped a lot in recent months on these servers. i was on US servers about 2mnths ago on a friday afternoon about 4pmish (Uk Time) and in atlas theres was about 45-50 ppl granter in feel in quiet zones like bricks to about 10-20, but u could always find a team no matter what level you were
Vills was less populated but generally within 5-8mins you were invited to team
Over on Redside EU side its a struggle to find a team even in an SG (or VG) its poor there wer 3 ppl in Port Okaes at about 8pm 2 nights ago (whihc tbh is signs of the decaying numbers the EU servers are facing
The easiest way to solve this move all 4 servers over to the US servers thus u still get the choice to play on EU servers and french cand germans still get there server, and this also mean we can play on crowded servers (well compared to EU) if we want.
Again the logistics will suck but it means those who need name globals to be change get a rename global token or smt (surely smt like this even though the logistics will prolly suck would be possible)
Im not aginst server merge. and i think you ppl that are are far too nieve and/or narrow minded to see EU servers are stagnent (not growing) and if nething are declining in numbers (this is based over 12-18 mnths). If the merge comes and it wont cause many problems if they do it sensibally and move 4 EU servers stateside. thus creating 1 game to rule them all. and thus meaning numbers may rise due to americans playing on union and defiant and the other 2 (cant speel them)
thats what i think neway. not that that has ever counted for nething on this spam and flame infested forums
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TBH, I've heard the "numbers are dwindling, servers are empty and dead" a few times in the last 3 years. We're still here with more players then ever... I think. I can't back that up, as I don't have the numbers.
At times I've been on, I tend to get 5 invites in the first 5 minutes when I'm not looking. When I am looking, it tends to take about 15 minutes to get on a team. Sod's law.
Personally I like the servers just the way they are.
There's enough people about for my need, and the PvP can/should be surgically removed from the game, but that's just my oppinion.
But basically, do you have any figures to support this claim of 'dead servers'?
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yes.. about 18 mnths ago (these were taken from search and written down no screenies) thers was about 550-600 ppl online without hides
12 mnths there was 475-525
6 330
now is about 290
this is a substantial fall and there seem to be a lack of teams from 14-45 unless you are doing a Task force.
(Edit. These number were written down but i know without screenies u only have my word) I am not the only one to notice this decline. PvP is a joke atm as u need to hunt in mobs to stop stalkers, buts its not impossbale. The game isnt as active member wise as it was 18-12 mnths ago it was about last september the numbers dropped noticably. Due to updates on WoW GE and other new MMOs. Everygame has its time and i truely believe COX's time is yet to come. but EU servers are declining in number over the last 12-18 mtnhs (this numbers) (i dont know the actually realease number nc ncsoft EU for the game and this would be interesting to see), but i know atm we haev a fair lot of trail accounts. but how many of them stay on to play. and subscribe. My global list has gone up though. and i seem to team with globals more than nething else atm unless im in PvP on some squishy. I havent seen ne increase in numbers if nethign its decreased and thats since i started playing 31mnths ago.
I would like to see bianual figures for the subscriptio base in the last 36mnths and also the trails going on to subscribe % as well.
and also server stats that are aresent in table form and given by ncsoft EU as well until then i dont think ne of us have a true leg to stand on due to it all being specualtion and what u say might not be the truth effect
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maybe COV also make the server feel a bit more empty then before because now about 30%-40% of the players play on the villain side :S
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Funny.
The servers appear quieter recently in my highly scientific examination of looking for a team when I come on at night. However getting a team has always seemed totally oblivious to server population. I can get a team on a dead server one night and the next night the place could be swamped and nothing, nadda, zilch. It's early in the thread but I'm expecting the "oh it's the summer, it'll pick up after the holidays" any minute now...
If I thought a EU server merge would improve my chances of invites (I'm aware I can improve them myself by making a team) I'd take my chances in a naming lottery (and then be seriously [censored] off when my favourite alt loses its name!). But I doubt anything short of connecting our servers stateside would have a profound enough impact on player numbers to increase those chances enough to make them noticeable.
If we were to merge into US servers, I'd quit TBH. Merging into other EU servers would be okay providing names were retained.
But TBH I'm not seeing this vast empty server thing. Just done two successful ship raids plus AV take downs always had a team and led two myself (badly). If the server populations were that dire none of that would have happened.
Could it also be that Villains have gotten more to do now, like Ouroboros and the RWZ, so they're more spread out now, and that means the older zones are a little less crowded?
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okies for a start i didnt say there was a loack of teams between 1-14 and 45-50 (i'll change the second to 35-50)
middle ranged teams are rare and have been for some time.
population in certain areas is virtually none. I love Nerva and founders but u see hardly neone in these areas.
Again i'll retract the doom statement i made earlier if NCSoft EU provide a table of statistics showing average use for the last 3 yrs in quarters. and the percentage of ppl who started on a trail account who have gone on to subscribe for more than a month.
And the server idea
dont loose Union or Defiant or the other 2 move them as extra servers on US server teritory. Logistics would be a bugger thoguh
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If that's what would be needed, I don't think you'll be retracting that statement any time soon...
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Secondly... I've got a defender (on Defiant) that is currently level 27. The last week, finding a team was easy as pie. I've had constant tells asking to join the team which has been full for a lot of the time, at times I've had to hide from search to avoid them. Which I think is another reason why the numbers seemed to have fallen (not that I have noticed myself)
With the new hide abilities I suspect some people hide from searches as they only team with their friends/SG or only PvP. Which don't bother me one bit. I've found it to be a useful feature and I really don't see the need for a server merge as I personally have seen no drop in population.
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Secondly... I've got a defender (on Defiant) that is currently level 27. The last week, finding a team was easy as pie. I've had constant tells asking to join the team which has been full for a lot of the time, at times I've had to hide from search to avoid them. Which I think is another reason why the numbers seemed to have fallen (not that I have noticed myself)
With the new hide abilities I suspect some people hide from searches as they only team with their friends/SG or only PvP. Which don't bother me one bit. I've found it to be a useful feature and I really don't see the need for a server merge as I personally have seen no drop in population.
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Whilst this maybe the case, hidden players in my opinion are not a valid reason behind low numbers showing on Player searches, as for 1 youve always been able to hide from the find team search, and 2 well if there on hide and u cant see/team with them they may as well not be there at all as they cant affect your game play. So for me they may as well be playing a diff game when it comes saying there affecting the pop.
The end game sucks TBH... more than CoH anyway. 
Personally I think a server merge would be a great idea. I moved from defiant to Union as Defiant was for want of a better word dead.
But I doubt that a server merge will happen now due to paid for slots. If there where going to do a server merge it should of been some thing they did before the paid for slots.
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Whilst this maybe the case, hidden players in my opinion are not a valid reason behind low numbers showing on Player searches, as for 1 youve always been able to hide from the find team search, and 2 well if there on hide and u cant see/team with them they may as well not be there at all as they cant affect your game play. So for me they may as well be playing a diff game when it comes saying there affecting the pop.
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I'm not saying its a valid reason for the population falling. Buts its a good reason why the amount shown when you click 'search' without parameters set, seems lower then before.
And yes, you have always been able to hide, but not just from searches. /hide use to hide you completely, but now you can hide from, for example: everything but searches.
If the server population was as low as some people seem to think it is, then they'd drop below financially viable levels, and something would be done about it.
The fact that nothing HAS been done, should tell all you doubters something. There's no way in hell a company wanting to make money, will take a loss on a monthly basis. We know for a FACT that NCSoft can and DO cut their losses, even with CoH. We have Korea as an example of that.
If the EU servers were struggling, they'd have merged or closed them already.
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The EU side could be losing money and there could be a number of reasons it's not been merged. For example NC could be happy with the US part of the game subsidising the EU part as they think they'd lose more by merging than they would by keeping the servers open.
But, as ever when this questions crops up, why doesn't someone suggest something proactive that can be done to increase the server populations? There are only a few people that ever take this approach.
More EU centric advertising, for example?
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There seems to be more - the Daily Mail competition for example?
I normally solo, but recently I've been in multiple teams on both Heroes and Villains with requests coming in multiple times. I'm seeing a lot more people running around that I used to - and I'm playing multiple alts at all levels.
They're not packed, but neither is there a lack of teams. Maybe a lot of folk are doing the co-op TFs right now, but there's definitely people there.
The day that the cost of running two servers becomes too much is the ONLY variable that NCSoft will use to say that a merge (an expensive process in itself, if my experience opening a 2nd data centre and virtualising servers for my organisation shows anything) is worth it.
And if players are playing more on one server than another, but there are still enough of us to cover the subscription cost for 4 servers? Well, I personally believe the 4 servers will stay open.
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Really not a footie fan eh?
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