5vs5 league?


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the phil brothers will go together nicley,

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Does this make me Rooks Phil and Phil in to Phil Phil?


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Link EU/US pvp zones tbh

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Some questions: 5vs5 on villains?? on heroes?? mixed?? pentad of villains/heroes??

Any rules or playing days and hours of playing??

After reading many ppl giving opinion, there arent propers rules of teams and when to play. That is the first to be set, and then ppl will think in joinin in (which Im interested in, but I dont want to involve 4 more peeps without being sure I can be there).


 

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The rules are there.1 of each AT,no epic AT's (as if..),and i am guessing mixed pentad is ok since will give more variation to tactical choices.

Tbh the point of a 5vs5 or 4vs4 league is SG teaming.So i aint participating in such a thing if Vindicate has to split up.Whoever wants to pvp will put some effort in this just like we will,i dont see the slightest reason to split up Vindicate.

And tbh if this is 4vs4 we might field 2 teams.

PS: LINK FRIGGIN PVP ZONES BETWEEN EU AND US


 

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PS: LINK FRIGGIN PVP ZONES BETWEEN EU AND US

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The rules are there.1 of each AT,no epic AT's (as if..),and i am guessing mixed pentad is ok since will give more variation to tactical choices.

Tbh the point of a 5vs5 or 4vs4 league is SG teaming.So i aint participating in such a thing if Vindicate has to split up.Whoever wants to pvp will put some effort in this just like we will,i dont see the slightest reason to split up Vindicate.

And tbh if this is 4vs4 we might field 2 teams.

PS: LINK FRIGGIN PVP ZONES BETWEEN EU AND US

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Much as I would love to have Vindicate teams I would much rather have some structured fights. ie some pre planning of the team make up & a chance to go through strategies beforehand, rather than just random fights with what ever toons people bring where its hard to get tactics going.

I would personally, I know its not my decision but just thinking out loud, like to see the attendance on monday nights into 2-4 teams depending on turnout (maybe have people wanting to play thermals, emps could be captains and chosing that way). Then people can sort out their own team make up. This would be more benefical than the occasionally random and chaotic Monday night experience. Players would benefit from learning about spiking, target calling, attacking debuffed targets, buffing cycles as well as other PvP skills and generally being more tactically aware. By keeping the teams the same people there will be more supportive & more willing to offer advise as it will benefit them next match, and hopefully raising the overall standard of PvP.

But this is just my opinion I just want some high quality team pvp


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Phils suggestion sounds really good to me, maybe we can discuss it tonight.

/signed.


 

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The rules are there.1 of each AT,no epic AT's (as if..),and i am guessing mixed pentad is ok since will give more variation to tactical choices.

Tbh the point of a 5vs5 or 4vs4 league is SG teaming.So i aint participating in such a thing if Vindicate has to split up.Whoever wants to pvp will put some effort in this just like we will,i dont see the slightest reason to split up Vindicate.

And tbh if this is 4vs4 we might field 2 teams.

PS: LINK FRIGGIN PVP ZONES BETWEEN EU AND US

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Much as I would love to have Vindicate teams I would much rather have some structured fights. ie some pre planning of the team make up & a chance to go through strategies beforehand, rather than just random fights with what ever toons people bring where its hard to get tactics going.

I would personally, I know its not my decision but just thinking out loud, like to see the attendance on monday nights into 2-4 teams depending on turnout (maybe have people wanting to play thermals, emps could be captains and chosing that way). Then people can sort out their own team make up. This would be more benefical than the occasionally random and chaotic Monday night experience. Players would benefit from learning about spiking, target calling, attacking debuffed targets, buffing cycles as well as other PvP skills and generally being more tactically aware. By keeping the teams the same people there will be more supportive & more willing to offer advise as it will benefit them next match, and hopefully raising the overall standard of PvP.

But this is just my opinion I just want some high quality team pvp

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You are on the wrong side of the atlantic for that, theres tons of team pvp on US test (except when its shut for betas) Its very easy to get matches should you so wish. Why the EU servers are not in the same listing as the US ones is beyond me, its not like geography is an issue as this distance from the east to west coast server is quite quite large...


 

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I just want some high quality team pvp

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While i agree with this i have to say there are 2 weird trends in EU PvP.(well Union anyway).

1st trend: Very few people are willing to even try put up a challenge because there is one really good SG out there.This is weird.Should be the opposite really.

2nd trend: PvP zones weirdness.5 villains bash on 1 hero or vice versa.4 more villains appear or 4 more heroes that balance out things and within 30 sec the side that was overpowering leaves.(I wont say about Vindicate team entering the zone cause then the zone collapses really).

I am all for mixing things up on a permanent basis for mondays but for a league i am all against splitting up our SG.

1)We started the SG cause we knew each other style
2)The point of a league is to play as team/friends/sg


 

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Players would benefit from learning about spiking

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Whats spiking out of curiosity?


 

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Players would benefit from learning about spiking

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Whats spiking out of curiosity?

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Fast, high burst damage. Multiple ppl attacking one person so there isnt enough to heal. etc.


 

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Fast, high burst damage. Multiple ppl attacking one person so there isnt enough to heal. etc.

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Ah ok, cheers


 

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I just want some high quality team pvp

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While i agree with this i have to say there are 2 weird trends in EU PvP.(well Union anyway).

1st trend: Very few people are willing to even try put up a challenge because there is one really good SG out there.This is weird.Should be the opposite really.

2nd trend: PvP zones weirdness.5 villains bash on 1 hero or vice versa.4 more villains appear or 4 more heroes that balance out things and within 30 sec the side that was overpowering leaves.(I wont say about Vindicate team entering the zone cause then the zone collapses really).

I am all for mixing things up on a permanent basis for mondays but for a league i am all against splitting up our SG.

1)We started the SG cause we knew each other style
2)The point of a league is to play as team/friends/sg

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not going to happen with the small numbers you have as people gravitate together and you have one PvP sg/team which just spanks everyone else and thats just not fun for anyone, well it shouldnt be fun for anyone as easy victories are about as fun as no victories IMO.

The only way I can imagine any kind of "league" working is for the experienced players to all split up and take new people under their wing and train them up, otherwise its just a case of having your PvP SG and doing nothing with it. You dont have the numbers or players for "serious" pvp.

The "logic" of "oh yeah, people will want to fight our experienced pvp team so they can practice and improve" doesnt hold true.


 

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not going to happen with the small numbers you have as people gravitate together and you have one PvP sg/team which just spanks everyone else and thats just not fun for anyone, well it shouldnt be fun for anyone as easy victories are about as fun as no victories IMO.

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Which brings us to my main point.LINK EU AND US ARENA AND PVP ZONES.....

I think i ll never get tired repeating this...


 

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Thing is people are too lazy to form teams and too lazy to make team build toons. And making experience players team with new players might seem good. But what happens when a new empath fights and experienced blaster that wont be fun. It's easier learning when you have good support that you can trust.


 

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I wish it wasnt up to us to save PvP if only the dev's/support staff did something


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I wish it wasnt up to us to save PvP if only the dev's/support staff did something

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You not realise this is what i have been doing since PvP began....


 

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I wish it wasnt up to us to save PvP if only the dev's/support staff did something

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You not realise this is what i have been doing since PvP began....

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By we I meant us players, your counted in that lol. I know knowone else has done more than you


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theRegulator Empathy/Energy/Soul Defender
Total Inertia Ice Blast/Kinetics/Psy Corruptor
Total Inferno Ice Blast/Thermal/Leviathan Corruptor

 

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Thanks,

The problem is as stated. Too many good PvP'ers under one roof. And tbh no-one could stand a chance atm there are more than 1 PvP SG out there.Just not active.

Since the days that PvP began there has always been one SG that has ruled the rest is started with Retribution then when PvP went really quiet and the PvP'ers from Ret began to lose interest and leave or play vastly less the rule went on to Vindicate. The problem has been always the same people hate losing and dont lile playing agaisnt a unseemingly unbeatable team. With IOs this makes the situation some what harder. As some teams will not be as purpled up as another.

I have tried to think away around this. I do have a league or tournament in mind that would stop the worrys of people of a superteam or all the best PvP'ers together i have just not got around to laying it down. I was waiting for a response from someone on prizess for the winners. I Will now have another look into it.

The event will be weekly but will need a minimum of about 25 players to start. think we have enough players out there ?


 

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hello i am new to this game and i am inetrested in joining in the player versus player side, how would i go about joining somting like this and do i have to be a high level, also when i ask people about pvp and what is good i got told spag bol what is this and what is vindicate?


 

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The problem is as stated. Too many good PvP'ers under one roof. And tbh no-one could stand a chance atm there are more than 1 PvP SG out there.Just not active

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This is the fundamental issue EU side, "serious" pvpers group together because they share a common interest and then there is little else out there, US side there are a dozen servers and a poopload more people so some action is virtually guaranteed, Im always getting hassled to do some arena this or that but Im just not into "serious" pvp anymore.

And psydock, calling people lazy merely perpetuates the idea that there is an elitist "clique" of pvpers who do little but band together, not everyone has the time or inclination for a toon for all seasons or to farm/play high end game for the massive resources to get a character in top IO spec. New people reading your comments are likely to be turned off as you show unwilling to help integrate new players and are wanting to stay siamese with your established players.


 

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what happens when a new empath fights and experienced blaster that wont be fun. It's easier learning when you have good support that you can trust.

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You say this, but if I recall you were the one who helped me be a decent emp that I am today by telling me what to do in WB.


 

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hello i am new to this game and i am inetrested in joining in the player versus player side, how would i go about joining somting like this and do i have to be a high level, also when i ask people about pvp and what is good i got told spag bol what is this and what is vindicate?

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Spag bol is a player and vindicate is a super group


 

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Welcome to CoH PvP.

PS: I had good fun today in PvP night i liked the team picking and giving some time to chat with players tactics.


 

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Spag bol is a player and vindicate is a super group

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i pvp in siren call and have never seen the name spag bol or the vindicate if they are good why have i not seen them ther? also what level do i need to be to do pvp night 2008