What res ppl as soon as they drop?
Lets see now, someone drops next to an AV, go res them, both of you get footstomped and die...yeah, yeah good decision making...not.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Thanks for this guild Alvan.
I have just started an Empath and found the information here very useful as a start point.
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Thanks for this guild Alvan.
I have just started an Empath and found the information here very useful as a start point.
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Thanks for the nice words for those who've said them, and yeah, it's meant as a starting point for empathing 
The fine-tuning comes as you learn what suits your style best and how there are situational exceptions to every basic idea.
So even if that one person in the thread is being overtly negative about it, try not to ignore what they say, as it might come handy later-on
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Great guide Alvan, however you did not state the cryptonite of most good empaths in a good teams, get in a solid experienced team after the mid 20s and if the tanker knows his job you are in danger of falling asleep as you are delegated to buffing people every few minutes. 
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my emp defender levelled all the way to 50 with random teams and I can't recall of a single time that a tank died on my team... and I never ever fortied them, unless it was a team of 4 or less people.
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This is against the board rules but what the heck, wouldn't be the first time. I agree with a lot of your points, but the above is either a flat out lie, a statistical anomaly or you should see a doctor to have your memory checked man. You can have your eye on the tank the whole time, do your very best and the nut will still die horribly as he decides to agro the whole room in an eightman having forgotten to switch on some of his toggles or just not having taken them.
Shadowplay - Scrapper DM/DA SL 50
Doctor Storm- Brute SS/Elec SL 50
"speed boosts someone in the face" - Cognito
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Great guide Alvan, however you did not state the cryptonite of most good empaths in a good teams, get in a solid experienced team after the mid 20s and if the tanker knows his job you are in danger of falling asleep as you are delegated to buffing people every few minutes.
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That's why you need to play in good teams that take the fact you're an empath into consideration and try to keep things lively. By aggroing three or four groups at the same time, for example. Best fun I think I've had on my empath was in a team of 7 blasters and me doing some task force.
But yeah, pure empathy in good teams can be tedious, as quite many powers are there to remove damage taken. And if the team is playing it too safe, than there is not much damage taken, thus quite many of your powers don't really have that big an use.
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You should of said this in the post of personal opinion. Then it looks more like a guide.
I agree that 1 empath and 7 blasters can work wonders, but they can also team wipe fast, only takes one mess up which could be from anyone. A mishap is fine, no one is perfect, an exact repeat of it though can be seen as for emphasis; [censored] stupid.
I think the buffs are well worth watching and waiting for. I happen to hate having to watch usually 3 or more peoples healthbars lower who aren't even close together, as someone else cries out zzzz. The job is to prevent defeats but without the ability to heal thru walls, be in two places at once, perform several actions at once, a team of people who know something about what they're doing is preferable. And then even with really good teams, the heals happen to only happen now and then, which is "great" for me as I do not see an empath as a healer.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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The what now. If you're trying to say that I should have said the post is a personal opinion, I did. From the second line of the OP:
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If you're trying to say that it should have been included in the first post. Probably, didn't originally think it needed to. People usually have brains and they eventually learn the finer points without guides. But if it wasn't in the OP, I did say the very same thing in the first reply to you:
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But situational changes are something that just need to be learned by each emp individually...
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I agree that 1 empath and 7 blasters can work wonders, but they can also team wipe fast, only takes one mess up which could be from anyone. A mishap is fine, no one is perfect, an exact repeat of it though can be seen as for emphasis; [censored] stupid.
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when I say "work wonders" I mean it works wonders on the morale after three levels of being in a super-efficient team where you only need to re-apply fortitude every now and then and watch as the hyper-optimized team grinds through missions and you have nothing to do.
Also, I can't really help but notice the incredibly negative vibe flowing out of your posts again, Shanny. Chill.
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Warning: Guide will contain nothing but opinions.
I could quote both a Dev and Mod on what they think about telling people how to play, but I think ya know what it'll be anyway.
The your doing it right if and the your doing it wrong if, without certain circumstances comes across as binary.
It did surprise me that this was the guide you did, as I believe, especially from your character builds that there is so much more.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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That's what 95% of guides about powers are. The remaining 5% are a numeric breakdown of powers copied from the game.
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I edited my previous post to further things.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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So I see.
And oh bother.
I assumed that using phrases like "here are some tips" and "guide may contain opinions" would be enough to make people realize that it is one that isn't a 100% "this is what you should always do like a mechanical robot" guide, but more an eye-opener to what could be done with their powers. Looking back at the guide, I still think I wrote things pretty clearly. But because of the multi-linguistic nature of the community I should have written few more warnings about it being written by a human, not by a higher being that knows what's best for everyone.
I'm sorry if you are reading the guide as one full of absolutes, it isn't that. And to extrapolate (maybe add a little hyperbole to it as well), my most sincere apologies that I have, by not adding the aforementioned disclaimer of me being human, offended you somehow.
From what I'm reading from the other replies, you are the only one completely missing the tone of the original guide and I hope this directed response cleared things for you. But in case there are some people lurking there who think that they should follow things said in the guides section about powers to the letter without using their own brains, this is to you lot as well: go read my original again, notice the words like "opinion" and "tips" before the "wrong" and "right", even if the latter are in shiny and pretty colors. That should put you on the right tracks.
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Your doing it wrong if...leads to an absolute and Your doing it right if...leads to an absolute and still can be classed as a tip and a opinion.
If you read my tones towards other guides serious or not, they differ. Too much seriousness can lead to not knowing which parts aren't that serious and which parts are.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
...and then there's people intent on reading the wrong things into what people are saying 
SingStar:
"Extremists LOVE to fish to get us annoyed so we break the forum rules."
CRACK68:
"The origin of life wasn't planned either, should all life be declared a bug and wiped out?"
Lionsbane:
"You know me.Ever the realist"
No there are people being funny.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Alvan mate i wouldnt worry too much.Your guide is spot on and helpful.
This is a definite guide to all new people trying to get into Empath secrets.
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Alvan mate i wouldnt worry too much.Your guide is spot on and helpful.
This is a definite guide to all new people trying to get into Empath secrets.
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^ This. Nice guide dude.
I thought "The Basics Of Empathing"* was top notch as guides go it was clear, concise and gave helpful advice with some humour and the minimum of verbage. I only wish it had been about when I first started the game.
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(1st 50 and longest ever to get there Emp/Elec)
Kneeling girls! Statues driving cars! What's going on? Ten years ago a man was arrested in the area for driving statues around in a car. Was it him?
@Ted Maul - The Echelon
Cheers for the guide Alvan... my Emp/Arch is currently at 42, slowly creeping up to 50.
@Wolfybane
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Daybreak(50 Fire/Kin) Tygrrforce (50 Hooman PB), Tygrrstryke(50 NRG/NRG), EbonWolf(50 WS)
V: Spektor(50 Spiddy)
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I thought "The Basics Of Empathing"* was top notch as guides go it was clear, concise and gave helpful advice with some humour and the minimum of verbage. I only wish it had been about when I first started the game.
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(1st 50 and longest ever to get there Emp/Elec)
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Clearly you have awesome taste. Emp/Elec is the best. 
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I thought "The Basics Of Empathing"* was top notch as guides go it was clear, concise and gave helpful advice with some humour and the minimum of verbage. I only wish it had been about when I first started the game.
11 Thumbs up
(1st 50 and longest ever to get there Emp/Elec)
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Clearly you have awesome taste. Emp/Elec is the best.
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apparently you both got no taste cause we all know Emp/rad is the most awsome
Emp/Dark tbh.
You're both fools. Fools!
Empath do you want a fight about it.
wooo chickfight!
SingStar:
"Extremists LOVE to fish to get us annoyed so we break the forum rules."
CRACK68:
"The origin of life wasn't planned either, should all life be declared a bug and wiped out?"
Lionsbane:
"You know me.Ever the realist"
Its been a long time since this guide was posted, but its as true today as it was then.
I've just started out on my empath and she's doing great sticking to 'The Empath bible'