An interesting new development...


Aurrius

 

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From here

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MoG continuing to suck is the only thing that grounds me in reality.


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- Castle



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Regen is getting nerfed again.


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I imagine it's something along the lines of what they did for Willpower's tier 9.

Regen is full of "-downtime" powers, but is lacking when it comes to big spike damage (AVs). Hopefully it'll be a +def/+resist clicky on a long, unenhanceable timer and they'll get rid of the -hp/-healing bit.

When he was looking at giving Willpowers's tier 9 the unenhanceable recharge attribute, Castle mentioned that if he got it working then that code could be applied to certain other powers. Time will tell...


 

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When the devs say somethings improving at least 50% of the time I feel like it was better before. No breath holding here


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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From Castle here:

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Well, just to curb some things a bit, here's the check in note:
"Moment of Glory: Removed Health crash and Heal resistance. Reduced Recharge time to 240 seconds. Decreased Protection, Resistance and Defense durations to 20 seconds."

The intended use is for a quick 'burst' of protection for when you are going in for the alpha, or are 'in trouble.' So far, there's an even split internally with 1/3 saying, "That sucks! No one will take it!" and 1/3 saying "OMG, that's overpowered!"

I'm really interested to see how it plays out on the Training Room.

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Sounds like a massive change, I can't wait to try it on the test server...


 

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MoG is getting buffed I reckon.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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And again: Castle here -

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It no longer has any form of Health manipulation, so no full heal when activated.
It still has the same Defense/Resistance values as before.
It still has the Endurance Recovery buff, but that duration is only 20 seconds as well.

EDIT: And to actually answer the question, no, NPCs still get whichever version of MOG they currently have. No changes are planned to that.

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No mention of the "Not affected by recharge" bit though, so looks like the Willpower tier 9 code doesn't apply. In other words, you get 20 seconds worth of Godmode to everything except Psionic once every four minutes base... so that's once every 2 minutes enhanced and once every 60-70 secs with set bonuses and Hasten.

*Jaw drops*

Also note that MoG as it stands grants considerable mez protection including protection against 'Repel'.
No mention of that mez protection getting stripped either, so it may act as a "super-breakfree" too.

*Jaw drops FURTHER*

Might finally be time to respec the ol' Kat/Regen...


 

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A lot of people hated its duration didn't they. Were you one of them?


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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And again: Castle here -

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It no longer has any form of Health manipulation, so no full heal when activated.
It still has the same Defense/Resistance values as before.
It still has the Endurance Recovery buff, but that duration is only 20 seconds as well.

EDIT: And to actually answer the question, no, NPCs still get whichever version of MOG they currently have. No changes are planned to that.

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No mention of the "Not affected by recharge" bit though, so looks like the Willpower tier 9 code doesn't apply. In other words, you get 20 seconds worth of Godmode to everything except Psionic once every four minutes base... so that's once every 2 minutes enhanced and once every 60-70 secs with set bonuses and Hasten.

*Jaw drops*

Also note that MoG as it stands grants considerable mez protection including protection against 'Repel'.
No mention of that mez protection getting stripped either, so it may act as a "super-breakfree" too.

*Jaw drops FURTHER*

Might finally be time to respec the ol' Kat/Regen...

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Looks promising. An example of more radical and better, in my opinion, potential changes


 

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Ooooh great. And then to think I've just rolled my fourth Regeneration toon *sighs*


 

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A lot of people hated its duration didn't they. Were you one of them?

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Yes. If MoG didn't get you killed instantly from falling damage, toxic damage or psionic damage, then you got to look forward to being 'tickled to death' over time.

Having said that, I hated the "25% HP and nullify all heals/regen" far more than I hated the duration.

The three minute long duration just meant that you were forceably subjected to the effects of a bad power for far too long. It was the -regen, -healing, -hp effects that made it a bad power in the first place.

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Ooooh great. And then to think I've just rolled my fourth Regeneration toon *sighs*

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Realistically I don't think it'll be going live like this. It's far too powerful a buff to an already very powerful set. I suspect that the recharge time will be raised, or it'll be made unaffected-by-recharge-buffs.

As it stands, a IO'ed regen could be in full-godmode about a third of the time with no penalty, and still have Dull Pain, Reconstruction and Instant Healing to fall back on the other two-thirds of the time. And as much as I hate MoG and love /regen, that's far too much. It'd herald 'rebalancing' again in the rest of the set.

And that's just thinking about Scrappers. Imagine what EM/Regen STALKERS could do with Reconstruction + Dull Pain + Instant Healing and a +Defense/+Resistance Godmode with no health crash that's up virtually every time they want to rehide or Assassin-Strike something? It's like a spammable, short-duration "Elude + Unstoppable".


 

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It looks a bit to strong a buff to me, particully with the short recharge.


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With 3 IOs in DP, IH and MoG you get 111% uptime on them, when used one at a time
1/5 for MoG, 2/3 for DP and 1/4 for IH.


 

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A Regen can easily get Perma-Dull-Pain these days.
To do that, you need around 60% global +Rech plus Hasten.

That works out at:
+ 100% uptime for Dull Pain - 120 secs duration, <120 secs recharge.
+ >45% Uptime on Instant Healing - 90 secs duration, <200 secs recharge.
+ >27% Uptime on NEW MoG - 20 secs duration, <73.5 secs recharge.

So you could easily use MoG as a stop-gap measure whenever Instant Healing isn't up and you're midway through Dull Pain's cycle (since it grants you a large amount of +HP when it re-applies).

With a min-maxxed build you would have higher +recharge and a more regular buff cycle than that though. 200%+ recharge from Hasten + Set bonuses is attainable nowadays and that doesn't count outside buffs.


 

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just as well I haven't got MoG then


 

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this looks really nice, but like the above poster said, it probably wont go live and will probably get adjusted in test

now.....im off to make a regen


 

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I might actually respec all my Regen toons (all four of them) and get Moment of Glory...


 

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Lets see how the devs tweak it first. In my opinion it looks like a WP style power that is not affected by recharge is the best guess.


 

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I'm not sure if I like it...Ah well, will see once it's on test.


 

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I like the current MoG - it's saved me more than it's killed me and it's not really slotted.


 

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I like the current MoG - it's saved me more than it's killed me and it's not really slotted.

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Considering one can get the recharge to 60seconds quite easily. Having High Def and Res 30% of the time with perma DP, recon and IH to fill the other 60% is defo an improvement.


 

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Oh I know - it's a good change, but I don't think such a drastic change was needed.

It feels they're dumbing it down a bit by making it easier to use, but hey. A buff's a buff (as long as it's a buff and not some weird 'hurr lets standardise blaster attack animations' thing).