PvP Community Wishlist (taken from US boards)

SinergyX_EU · 11-19-2007 10:52 PM

Nice they took a few things of guildwars (PvP add-on, cam-bot can see side,

I like to add the idea of fun-matches, snowball fights, tag-team, brawl fights. (GW did some awsome events on that).

As for the tanker/brute/scrapper, as long there is unresistable damage and massive stack mezz, wont see em comming back.

But the day devs actualy gonna work on PvP and get it more playable? Wont see it happen.

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Hammerfall · 11-20-2007 09:05 AM

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Didnt like all the moaning about cage lol

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Valid, though, seeing as you can pretty much get near Perma again.

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Not really. You can only cage one person and even then it's hard to keep it on them perma. If they give -res to caging, FF gets nerfed even more. DOES IT REALLY NEED MORE NERFS??

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While FF is pretty weak overall, cage needed nerf for the sole reason that it is stupid and un-fun PVP power in the first place. On theo ther hand, creating some sort of antidote to it would suffice.

As for CM, I'm not sure about nerfing Cm or clarity as much (but corrs need their power order switched so that sonic corrs have access to clarity in sirens as well). Maybe something to prevent emps CMing the ENTIRE pvp-team to percep cap so frigging easily. Increased recharge in pvp possibly.

Dark_Blasphemy_EU · 11-20-2007 09:19 AM

Percep cap... and anti mez

Psydock · 11-20-2007 09:32 AM

CM does not need a nerf. Do you guys actually play an empath, because it's not easy at all to keep an 8 man team cm and at the perception cap while you heal buff and run. And clearmind has a very long animation so I think that balances it out.
And all the stalkers have hide + stealth + stealth io anyways so it's not like it matters to them if people are at the perception cap or not.

Hammerfall · 11-20-2007 09:51 AM

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And all the stalkers have hide + stealth + stealth io anyways so it's not like it matters to them if people are at the perception cap or not.

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Yes Ive tried, no it isnt at all easy, but it sure as hell DOES matter.

Mighty_EU · 11-20-2007 10:05 AM

That's quite a good list. And I liked that it wasn't just a bunch of really elite people being er.... elite. A lot of these suggestions *would* get people PvPing.

From a casual perspective and just a purely game perspective I don't like the concept of auto hit stuff in and PvP context. I think a lot of stuff could use some acc checks or at least have counterable actions available. Well counterable actions are by and largely available in some form with a few exceptions.

I don't mind TK all that much, there is a counter to it, although quite expensive.

Stuff like Cage though. I get what the problem is that a change could take a set down a bit, but the flat fact is that's one sure fire un-fun power that just equals an instant I-AM-BORED button .

By and large, probably to increase PvP the game needs to get PvP appealing to people, erm... like me ( ). I've subbed for a long time, I have a bunch of fairly well built ( ) toons which are by and large [censored] solo in arena, and ok in zones. I now have one PvP orientated toon and I want to PvP. I'm not gonna change servers to do it though. I want to stay where I can team with mates and enjoy the content and play as a rounded player, not just PvE and not just PvP.
I want to learn and I want a decent route into getting "pitch time" and practise. "Get a team" doesn't work off the bat, because I'm not very usual in the player base wanting to try right now, and those that are my friends that do PvP have moved servers.

Tall orders I know . But there's a few honest things the way I see it.

Good starting list though.

Tainted_Greek_EU · 11-20-2007 10:07 AM

If one thing would be come true out of this list which one would be your choices?

Cross Server Arena and PvP zones would be mine.

Psydock · 11-20-2007 10:10 AM

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Cross Server Arena and PvP zones would be mine.

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Mighty_EU · 11-20-2007 10:15 AM

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If one thing would be come true out of this list which one would be your choices?

Cross Server Arena and PvP zones would be mine.

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Definitely.

At least arena first. I wouldn't mind waiting for zones, but arena would be huge.

But zones right up there too. And Warburg or somewhere NEW being opne zone team up for Heroes AND Villains, because being in the minority, being hell bent to try and get a villain pvping flat out sucks [censored] when you enter WB and everyone else jumps you over and over and you can't even get a team if you tried and wanted one. I'm totally sure there'd be be way more villains pvping over time if there was a team-up open zone to at least get things rolling, and I'd be there loads right off the bat.

Tylantia · 11-20-2007 10:22 AM

Surey that'd involve new servers tho? Like WW has it's own etc?

And in the games current state I can't see them doing that for a very long time

Mighty_EU · 11-20-2007 10:33 AM

Or, it could be the best time given the current situation devleoping .

SinergyX_EU · 11-20-2007 10:56 AM

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Surey that'd involve new servers tho? Like WW has it's own etc?

And in the games current state I can't see them doing that for a very long time

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As far i know, WW is just US sided, we are 'plugged into' it.

But my pick
10. New PvPers feel overwhelmed as they try to get the hang of things. Consider adding a newbie friendly zone with debuffed damage, debuffed movement, and buffed resistance so players can learn basic mechanics at a slower pace.

That one, for sure

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SweetChilli · 11-20-2007 11:05 AM

There are plenty of things someone solo can do to prevent TK and caging.

Bf's will counter Tk (4) and def insps will help counter caging as will any +def power.
Anyone can pick up invis which alone might do it, but that also leads to phase shift which will counter both, even if the guy does have +percep.

Of course if you have ranged attacks, you don't always need to counter tk as you can just continue to attack from distance.

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Tainted_Greek_EU · 11-20-2007 11:09 AM

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And in the games current state I can't see them doing that for a very long time

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Considering NC just acquired CoX its one of the most likely things to be developed in the near future.

Also what is exactly the current game state that prevenets this exactly?

Dark_Blasphemy_EU · 11-20-2007 11:51 AM

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CM does not need a nerf. Do you guys actually play an empath, because it's not easy at all to keep an 8 man team cm and at the perception cap while you heal buff and run.

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Thing is, imo you shouldn't be able to have a whole team perma cm'd, never. Only with that power most of troller and domi primaries are crippled, letting aside concealment on anything non stalker. There's a reason why every proper pvp team ahs at least one empath, and that pre IO's, because these days they not only can perma cm the rest of a full team, but also perma forti them, perma ab one and heal when necessary. CM alone is the reason why trollers become crippled defenders in team pvp.

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And clearmind has a very long animation so I think that balances it out.

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Very long animation balance all that stuff out? Cmon psy... :P

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And all the stalkers have hide + stealth + stealth io anyways so it's not like it matters to them if people are at the perception cap or not.

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Which still means that they will see all invis toons but stalkers from a really long range, and protect them vs virtually every mez in game...

Psydock · 11-20-2007 11:55 AM

I'd love to see you perma fort 7 people and keep 7 people perma cm'd as well as keeping them alive.

And since when are trollers crippled in team pvp?

Dark_Blasphemy_EU · 11-20-2007 12:00 PM

It can be done..

And trollers are used just for their secondary... and tk or cage from primary, which defenders can also get

Psydock · 11-20-2007 12:14 PM

Show me then, please.

Dark_Blasphemy_EU · 11-20-2007 12:50 PM

Show you what?

MaxPowerz_EU · 11-20-2007 02:03 PM

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I'd love to see you perma fort 7 people and keep 7 people perma cm'd as well as keeping them alive.

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I think he wants you to show him the above as that would be mighty impressive.

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Phil_ · 11-20-2007 02:04 PM

The reason trollers are crippled is when the empath is playing with another person with grantable mes protection. I dont really see what nerfing cm will accomplish (in terms of trollers use in team pvp) with thermals, sonics, and kins around.

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X_treme · 11-20-2007 04:33 PM

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I'd love to see you perma fort 7 people and keep 7 people perma cm'd as well as keeping them alive.

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I think he wants you to show him the above as that would be mighty impressive.

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not to mention impossible unless ur playing 5 year old that run into u while u stand in a group not moving all match...

Dark_Blasphemy_EU · 11-20-2007 09:19 PM

I never said it was easy, not even said it happenned all the time, I just said it can be done tho

Rooks · 11-20-2007 09:55 PM

To be honest I don't mind it in a game when the more skillful people come out on top

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Hammerfall · 11-20-2007 09:56 PM

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I'd love to see you perma fort 7 people and keep 7 people perma cm'd as well as keeping them alive.

And since when are trollers crippled in team pvp?

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Teams come in other sizes than 8 too....