Things I wish I'de known about playing a stalker


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I intend this to be a thread about things players have learnt about playing a stalker effectively either through their own discovery or being told by others. A thread devoted to helping those who want to take the up stalker AT but know they can be played very badly. I am by no means a very experienced player of the stalker AT, but I do feel I've learnt a lot along the way, and would like to open up the thread to all those who feel they can part with some of their stalker-wisdom.

1) Placting an ememy and then using AS or another attack on them should only be done when its the only enemy left to hit. Otherwise your just wasting 10 secs of the enemy scratching his bum.

2) Learn to change target when you enter your AS crouch pose, then hit placate, so that as soon as your done killing the first mob, a second is wondering where you went and then you can move on to the next.

3) Vicious is a solo stalkers heaven. More exp than villainous and malicious, the mobs will be +1 or +2 of you, but as a stalker 2 mobs of a higher level is much better for you than 4 of a similar lvl. Stalkers aren't crowd friendly, and large groups of enemies make them run away, fast. If you plan on doing your own missions while still on vicious, be aware of other players just 1 lvl below you, seeing a purple Lt and boss can freak ppl out.

4) Teaming as a stalker can be great fun, but make sure others on the team know what a stalker is for, as many ppl dont. Make sure they know to let you get into position behind some pesky minion or LT. Leave the bosses till later, unless your the only real damage dealer around. Make sure they know that if you run off during downtime, your coming back, and that not all areas they can see on the map will be clear.

5) When duoing, especially with something very squishy like a corr, be mindfull of using placate, as it sheds the aggro from you, and makes then run towards what else is in their view. While very funny seeing the corr wet themselves seeing that freakshow tank take a swing at them, it will often leave you with a dead corr who might just forget to heal you next time. So make sure the mob you placate is either held, or that your squishy friend is out of splatting distance.

6) Make friends with other stalkers. While generally solo players, duoing with another stalker can be great fun. You both understand how to play them (hopefully!) and you can organise yourselves to strike with devastating precision, and not the free for all teaming with other ATs can be. Double AS on a boss with BU will take out most bosses, or at least reduce them to low enough HP for just a quick follow up move.

7) Be assertive when on a team. If your just going along for the ride, it aint half as fun as when you get to do what stalkers do best. For any that ask you why the hell you keep running away, explain. (BTW, staying and scrapping will often make them appreciate you more anyway). Tell them to wait for you to at least to use BU before they charge in. Nothing more annoying that having your AS interrupted cos the brute ran in too early. Politely tell ppl that are unaware of a stalkers assets, and you will become an asset to the team.

Well thats all for now. I wonder what other usefull tips there are to share


 

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When PvPing if you're Assassin's * misses... don't run for the hills. You only lose respect of other players and look like a chicken and then get abuse for being a rubbish PvPer. Stick it out until your health bar goes orange or lower. You're not the most resilient fighter but showing that you have some guts proves you can fight.

This is actually true as the other day when my AS missed, I stayed and fought and was told that I am not like other Stalkers and that I don't fight dirty by running for the hills when AS misses. Sure I fled when my health bar went really low but I proved my worth. Stand and fight!!!


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When PvPing if you're Assassin's * misses... don't run for the hills. You only lose respect of other players and look like a chicken and then get abuse for being a rubbish PvPer. Stick it out until your health bar goes orange or lower. You're not the most resilient fighter but showing that you have some guts proves you can fight.

This is actually true as the other day when my AS missed, I stayed and fought and was told that I am not like other Stalkers and that I don't fight dirty by running for the hills when AS misses. Sure I fled when my health bar went really low but I proved my worth. Stand and fight!!!

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Heh.


 

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Well, I think I might have some points to add:

- Use the environment. For example, if you have to run break line of sight and wait behind a corner of some sort. In time you will learn how much space is needed so that you are re-hidden (and ready to crit with your strongest attack) before the enemies arrive at your position. This "Stalkiting" can turn the tide of a difficult battle.

- Beware of spread spawns. Some sets offer methods to control enemies via stun/knockback/fear. However, this can only be done when the enemies in question are within range and not shooting from a distance. Again, use the environment.

- Auto-aggroing spawns can be your undoing. But the fact that they know where you are and will shoot at sight doesn´t mean you can't choose the place to fight (and get a crit in). Yet again, use the environment.

- When you are in a team and you have to withdraw from a fight to re-hide don't "use the opportunity" to click on a nearby glowie. This is bad use of the environment.

- When you scout ahead of your team be sure to get your priorities straight. Being able to click glowies before anyone else had the opportunity to even see them might be good for you, but the team might be more thankful if you just had told them about the triple-spawn with bosses round that corner.

- One more thing about scouting and priorites: Being able able to scout is not the same as being forced to scout no matter what. It's pretty pointless to uncover the whole map and point out the location of the named boss when the mission is "kill all" or the team minus you is fighting against countless mobs while you are having your little-sightseeing. Besides, uncovering the map doesn´t exactly make "kill all"-missions easier as the team might lose track of which areas have been cleared already.

- Don't try if you can AS an AV/Hero while half the team is afk. Just don't.
Don't laugh. I have witnessed one stalker doing precisely that once. He had to reach level 47 or something like that to finally learn that this is not a smart move. Valkyrie was not amused. Neiter were the afk players when they returned to see their slain toons and learned the reason for it.
Now you may laugh.




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eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.

 

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Just remembered another one. One of the things a stalker does best on a team is take out troublesome mobs. In order to do this, learn what the troublesome mobs are. Stalkers are the assasin class of the game. You think a good assasin just goes and kills someone withouth finding out about them first? Look up mob types on paragonwiki, right click and click info on a mob you are not familiar with, or just when you are bored waiting for BU to come back up. Sometimes these lil descriptions can give you valuable information. Learn what mobs do things that are not just outright attacks, the debuffers, the mezzers, the ones that call for backup, the rezzers, the healers, the sappers, or just any mob that has a tendency to annoy people if they dont get taken out quickly. Usually as a stalker you can just one hit these people, often without team mates even noticing what you did. This is the ability many stalkers should do on a team, are expected to do on a team, and dont, and then wonder why they dont get asked to team much.

So learn your mobs, makes dropping them all the more fun.

Also learn to time your rehide and AS together. When a mob has been placted you usually have about 10 seconds before they start trying to hit you again. After you have finished off all their buddies, stand in front of them and try to get the timing down so that you actually hit them with your AS just after hide has kicked back in. Waiting for hide to reappear again to fire AS off can sometimes mean the difference between killing the mob and them breaking you out of hide before you can AS themm, which can be very annoying. Learn to time it perfectly and your killing efficacy goes way up. oh and get it wrong, and the mob will probs laugh at you.


 

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And know what to leave last. ... Nemisis Lts im looking at you


 

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When PvPing if you're Assassin's * misses... don't run for the hills. You only lose respect of other players and look like a chicken and then get abuse for being a rubbish PvPer. Stick it out until your health bar goes orange or lower. You're not the most resilient fighter but showing that you have some guts proves you can fight.

This is actually true as the other day when my AS missed, I stayed and fought and was told that I am not like other Stalkers and that I don't fight dirty by running for the hills when AS misses. Sure I fled when my health bar went really low but I proved my worth. Stand and fight!!!

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Heh.

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Something you want to say Hammerfall?


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When PvPing if you're Assassin's * misses... don't run for the hills. You only lose respect of other players and look like a chicken and then get abuse for being a rubbish PvPer. Stick it out until your health bar goes orange or lower. You're not the most resilient fighter but showing that you have some guts proves you can fight.

This is actually true as the other day when my AS missed, I stayed and fought and was told that I am not like other Stalkers and that I don't fight dirty by running for the hills when AS misses. Sure I fled when my health bar went really low but I proved my worth. Stand and fight!!!

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Tell that to an /SR stalker :S

PvP techniques vary within ATs aswell

Plus if your AS is missing on anything but /sr scrappers and bubblers then you seriously need to address your slotting


 

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Also a nice little PvP tool on placiate..

It's great to up your damage output but alos it's great as a good back up to through off your opponent in a fight. In particular it's worth holding on to and activating when you see your opponent go through a BU animation.

As the animation is firing placiate and skirt your opponent for 5-10 seconds.. with your opponents BU wasted reingage and it saves you alot of trouble


 

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And know what to leave last. ... Nemisis Lts im looking at you

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Aye, when facing Nemesis spawns take out the minions first, then placate and BU+AS the lt. If you take out the lt. first, all the minions will gain +Defence to all attacks


 

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They actually gain vengence which is even worse


 

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1) The quickest way i leveld was to pick up SS!! Run paper missions (Defeat or Steal) zip to the end kill everything in end room, grab the prize if a steal!! I did this on relentless from lvl 14!! Some bosses require the hit and run, others my go down with AS + Palcate + follow up attakcs, bone smasher for early levels.

2) Dont winge and go mad if your at max debt, jus pick yourself up and keep playing, learn from your mistakes.


 

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Also... we're awesome


 

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Learned the ropes about being a stalker through hard graft and long hours playing...now, my EM/Regen stalker owns most missions AV/EB's excluded of course). Can scrap it out with most brutes, when I need to, and mayhem missions are a breeze.
Eliminate all the minions when soloing, placating the boss until it's all lonesome. Then attack it in leisure!

Have found in teams though that AS'ing the bosses works fine if the rest of the team is already drawing some of the aggro. Just keep placeting and pummelling after the initial attack wave.
Works for me!


 

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Any other SR stalkers find that EBs just take time and patience? or does ToF just rock that much? Anyone else ever taken out a red ballistae and only been hit twice? Without Elude?

Also yeh its always best when solo to thin the crowd out till its just the boss left. Brutes love minions cos of rage, we dont.


 

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Re: EB's...Time, patience, tons of health and stamina insps, a lot of luck insps, and the desperate hope they don't heal too fast when you're gathering strength for another shot after placating them a few times.

With the AV's/Heroes you may as well not bother, they usually heal too fast to do any more than dent them when solo!

I'd always call in a bit of help for those if you can. People are generally obliging, especially if you've cleared the way to the end for them and it's not too far off their own location. Belonging to a good SG helps too!


 

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Have found in teams though that AS'ing the bosses works fine if the rest of the team is already drawing some of the aggro. Just keep placeting and pummelling after the initial attack wave.
Works for me!

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From the times they were on test some people worked out that the moment the enemy flinched from seeing brutes or MM + pets go in that was the time to strike whilst some others striked early and got their butts handed to them.


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Too true. The amount of times folks on teams have said 'ready!', I've set Build up and AS in motion and then discover nobody else has made a move yet...

Butt handed to me in on several dinky silver platters - every time.

Always wait until the rest of the group has engaged the mob - you don't miss the AS chance unless you get knocked out of hide.


 

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I also learnt why ppl hate illusionists so much. After spending the best part of lvl 39 doing paper mishs and going up against the carnies a lot, I finally figured out why every so often, u get "unaffected" over the illusionsists head. Dunno what they do but they do some kinda phase out thing where you cant affect them with anything. Wait by them till they appear totally opaque again, then smack em. Nothing more annoying that missing your AS, but not being able to follow up after, sucks worse.


 

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Its called phase shift, just pop BU and queue AS a few seconds into the phase shift period and you will hit them as soon as they come out of it. My spines love carnies thanks to their low resistance to lethal and toxic