Pink fluffy pom poms or Electric?


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Hi there

I am thinking of rolling a Brute but I am torn between which melee set to have and which secondary. For melee I am thinking Energy Melee or Electric Melee. But (there's always one of them isn't there?) I have no idea which to go for. Pom poms or, according to some players, Electric which is slower than Stone Melee (recharge wise) and isn't really a good melee set. Lightning Rod looks so damn cool (PBAoE Superior Energy Damage, Knockback, Teleport, Foe -End) however for only Superior damage... it has a 90 second recharge and apparently - as I mentioned - the other moves aren't exactly hard hitting and take a bit to recharge. Energy Melee on the other hand has two Extreme Damage Single-target moves which recharge in 20 seconds each! Also, the other attacks seem to recharge nicely as well. I am also concidering Super Strength but someone will have to shed some light on that.

Now to discuss shields. People have told me Electric Armor is rubbish as it is based on dodging (isn't Super Reflexes?) and that it isn't a good set. I have seen first hand people die when using Power Surge. My friend activated it, charged into a mob of Longbow his own level with no Longbow Warden in that mob and he faceplanted five seconds later. Invulnerability is supposed to be good and is the second best recommended set for the RSF (so I have heard).

What are your thoughts?

Thanks in advance for any replies, Rap


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well for one elec armour isnt dodging energy is, elec melee is good at tacking down groups but not so much 1 on 1 energy on the other hand is very good at it, one you get the two extream attacks, not so great till then tho. superstrengh is good at low lvls but then slows down a LOT untill rae when it picks up again. invuntability is an ok set, has a bit of everything, slef heal, good res, ok def, and a nice last power. so basicly it depends on what you want to do with your brute, which would help alot with what to get.


 

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so basicly it depends on what you want to do with your brute, which would help alot with what to get.

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Well it depends if you want to go for PvP or PvE on the primary set. Energy Melee is better for PvP as you mentioned with Eenergy Transfer and Total Focus, and is more single target, while Electric Melee is more AoE as 6 out of 9 powers in the set can hit multiple targets.

On the recharge front I don't know about Electric Melee or Energy Melee much, yet in a mob with full fury you're gonna kill things quicker with Elec than Energy Melee. But if you are choosing Electric Armor, Lightning Reflecex has +25% on the recharge I think, which means that recharge isn't a problem and with hasten its a jiffy.

Electric Armor isn't the strongest of secondary resistance sets, but with Aid Self and Tough you can still survive as long as any Invunerability Brute

And on the charging into a mob of Longbow, the stacked -resistance of the Sonic Grenades the Nullifiers deal out can beat anything, so that isn't a great indication of the strength of the set.

Some people like Electric Amor, others don't, and with the Endurance powers of the set, I think it's one of the best sets for Brutes

Anyway, good luck making your choice, hope this ramble has been helpful!


 

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Elec melee is the big AoE damage for PvE (though till 32 Fire leads the way and is never far behind)

Energy is high ST damage, but then so is Stone (which people seem to skip over)

For PvE Elec Melee is one of the nicest sets for any brute IMO. I cant comment on elec armour or en armour,.


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Electric Armor isn't the strongest of secondary resistance sets, but with Aid Self and Tough you can still survive as long as any Invunerability Brute

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Now that is exactly what I DON'T want! I find it hard enough sacrificing three powers for the Fitness Pool!

It is a tough choice to make - limitless End or a heal/buff!

EDIT: And Graventite... the rambling does help. I asked around and apparently it is one of the flavours of the month (Energy Melee/Electric Armor). Nothing wrong with being a bit different.


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Tough? Aid Self? *cough*
Well, I have some (actually a lot of) experience with the mentioned powersets. In 50 levels of playing my electric brute the thought that I might need something like Tough or Aid Self never crossed my mind. The only thing that makes me feel squishy is toxic damage and we all know how much help Tough is with that. And Aid Self... Let's say that it is less of a committment to just invite a friend´s corruptor when I think I take too much damage. I wouldn´t even know which powers to skip to get Aid Self, let alone Tough. And I highly doubt that an invul brute can bathe in masses of Mu or PPD-Peacebringers like this electric brute. It's very satisfying to see an Inascendent Strike do less damage to you than one tic of your Lightning Field does to them. True, an electric brute is not my first choice for PvP (but that's where my sonic/kin shines so I'm fine) but in PvE elec/elec can be a fury-driven machine although it requires a little bit more skill to play effectively than the average run-and-smash-brute.




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Aid self is not a requirement for an energy/electric brute, I take green ispirations with me, they are the only thing I need 90% of the time, a few purples when up against an Elite Boss maybe, and always one blue for PS crash.

No need to waste powers and slots on aid self when you have a tray for inspirations that you rarely use in the first place and aid self is situational/interuptable.


 

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Aid self is not a requirement for an energy/electric brute, I take green ispirations with me, they are the only thing I need 90% of the time, a few purples when up against an Elite Boss maybe, and always one blue for PS crash.

No need to waste powers and slots on aid self when you have a tray for inspirations that you rarely use in the first place and aid self is situational/interuptable.

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Music to my ears!

Why waste two powers getting Aid Self when you can buy a green insp for 50 Inf!? How people can do that is beyond me!!!


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So when you've all run out of insps I'll be the one laughing!! Muahahahaha!

Ok, Tough and Aid Self aren't a requirement, but they do make life more survivable.

And Tough is useful when fighting those nasty Katana/Regens in RV, but, that's just my opinion, go with what you want.


 

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Aid self is not a requirement for an energy/electric brute, I take green ispirations with me, they are the only thing I need 90% of the time, a few purples when up against an Elite Boss maybe, and always one blue for PS crash.

No need to waste powers and slots on aid self when you have a tray for inspirations that you rarely use in the first place and aid self is situational/interuptable.

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He's learnin, at last he has posted on the Brute section hehe.

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So when you've all run out of insps I'll be the one laughing!! Muahahahaha!


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When I run out of insps I will be away to get more, I should arrive back about the same time your comming back from the hospital Muahahahaha!


 

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Ok, Tough and Aid Self aren't a requirement, but they do make life more survivable.

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That´s highly debatable. In order to get Tough and Aid Self you skip four powers that are probably less situational, not to forget the slot commitment for both powers.
So, I would argue that survivability itself is mostly unaffected at best, but the way in which it is achieved is changed to something more "conservative" (armour and heals). If you prefer a tank-like playstyle Aid Self and Tough may be the right choice for you, if not you will likely be disappointed by the result.




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So when you've all run out of insps I'll be the one laughing!! Muahahahaha!


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When I run out of insps I will be away to get more, I should arrive back about the same time your comming back from the hospital Muahahahaha!

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Seconded... Muahahahahahaaahaha *cough choke cough* My spleeeeeeeeeen!


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What's this h-o-s-p-i-t-a-l thing? Never been. If you want we can meet up and test this 'Guy who has insps + Aid Self dies quicker than guy with just insps' theory of yours.

And for EM/Elec, Stamina isn't a requirement, you can do perfectly well without it.

And on me getting Tough, I've found it far, far, far more useful than Brute Patron Powers.

And I just found at about level 30-ish that a self heal is incredibly useful in the middle of a CoT mission.
Anyway, it works for me, but I've seen Elec Brutes who do fine without it.

And on the slotting, I've got my heal fully slotted, Endurance Drain fully slotted, all my Primary Powers fully slotted, the list goes on.

Sooo many 's in this post!


 

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As easy as it is to carry a few greens, its not always feasible and it is a pain having to going and buy them all the time. I mean, why stop there, dont get stamina and just buy blues etc. Also in PVP u cant just rely on greens (you'll have ot keep zoning when u run out.)

Im not sure what graventite meant when he said that ELEC armour is not the strongest of secondary resistance sets, accoridng to herobuilder it has better resist stats than anything else, true it doesnt have a heal but ive run both invulrability and elec and I can tell you elec armour is takes a pounding from all enemies and your still standing (including psionic) Take aid self and you are laughing (carry greens as well).

If you have any PvP concerns then take ENG/ELEC, if not then ELEC/ELEC because in a PvP situation, ELEC primary is useless as I witnessed in Warburg last night.


 

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My brute does fine without the heal/tough (SS/Elec btw) although the only power I would like to get is the heal for those 'I'm surrounded by 10 +3 lieutenants and my health is going down and my end isn't doing well..' moments.

And yeah, I would say en/elec is a good brute build for PvP, but elec/elec would be great for PvE.. As said loads of times already. Although I have been looking at some numbers for elec/fire PBAoE/AoE damage


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