As for the initial idea... I think setting a weekly day and rough time could be good on both servers - people who want to do some PvP are more likely to show up if they think other PvPers are likely to be around, and perhaps things will grow from there if people find they actually enjoy the zone and start spending more time in it. And just having a day and time decided on takes little organisation, so no one really needs to head it up - anyone who's interested in furthering the cause could obviously give a shout over their SG channel or appropriate global channels, though.
Would it be better to have the same time and day for both servers though, to make it memorable... or would it be better to have two different days, so that people who have 40+ toons on both can participate in both? I'd happily show up on both servers, although I'd probably spend more time on Union if they're at the same time, as I have more high-level toons there.
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I'd happily show up on both servers, although I'd probably spend more time on Union if they're at the same time, as I have more high-level toons there.
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This, but the other way around.
Two days may work well.
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Running it on test defeats the whole point of taking RV back from the farmers though, surely?
And 6:30pm is WAY to early for me I'm afraid...
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I can come and farm there on Test, if that would make your crusade feel more righteous 
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Heh 1 vs 10 it was on union and they were a thermal and a kin
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If it was the Thermal and the Kin, there was no heavy involved, on this occassion. 
And your Ice Tank only gets one-shotted because of Forge and Melt Armour. We usually charge in before the heavies are even with us. Thermals eat Tanks for breakfast.
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Yup I know I had forge and melt armour on when you two attacked me, but I didn't mean only that occasion. I have been 1 shot repeteadly many times by a brute's heavy, or a MM's after I had killed all his pets. Thermal debuffs will surely make it easier for the heavy to land the shot, butwithout them it will still 1shot.
For the OP, monday night is test night, you will be missing many potential people organising another pvp contest the same night. Great to see new offers are sent out tho 
The point of holding the first meeting on the test was to see what kinda of a turn out we could hope to expect. And to settle some of the agruements if people wanted to pursue that.
As I mentioned the later Mondays will be on the normal servers, with a few "Head" Organisers to help smooth things along, and people to delegate PMs too, choose a time and day that suited there server best, and what day monthly event can be arranged based on server not forumn.Just because we start on monday doesn't mean 6 weeks later we can't have Monday/thursday 8o'clock defiant, tuesday/friday 7:30 Unions, so people can still farm if they wanna the other days without getting ganked, and we could use the pvp zone to well pvp. Maybe even have a monthly test server day were we all go at it! RV monthly Royal Rumble. And mayber villain/hero hunting days once a month, for those who like pvp and badges?
So what about 7o'clock to 9:30 this coming monday on the test server just to try things out? Then I will gladly take on the role of one of the "Head" organisers for defiant if no one wants to, and someone can volunteer to be one of Unions?
And don't worry the "head" organisers main job, in my idea, is just to listen to all the ideas of what days and hours people wanna play and then disscuss it with there union counter part. Heck we could vote for them if we want.
Either way, we can decide things like this later...
Everyone ok for 7ish to 9ish ( for RPers sake, we can stay if we wanna) on the test monday?
I'll try to make it, but will probably be a bit late. RL first, afterall.
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I suppose we could do 3 versions of the weekly event monday could be on the test server while 2 other days during the week could be nominated for the defiant and union servers perhaps saturday for union and sunday for defiant that way theirs more chance of more peeps showing up.
Or you could put all three on a rotation so for example week 1 test server will be on monday night, defiant will be on tuesday night and union will have theirs on wendsday night and then the following week it would be test tuesday, defiant wendsday and union thursday.
At least that way folks who are always busy on certain days of the week and cant make the event one week will get a chance to make it to the event the next week, i know it sounds somewhat complicated but it gives everyone a chance at least to be able to make it once and hey it might just prove to work better since most pvp nights that have come and gone where restricted to being one night a week on the same day over and over and some members of the pvp'n community where not able to make it so the weekly event wasnt getting the most of its potential.
Thoughts?
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For the OP, monday night is test night, you will be missing many potential people organising another pvp contest the same night. Great to see new offers are sent out tho
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Monday night has been arena PvP night on test for a long time. Although it's great to see a lot of different people agreeing to join in with this (look through the latest 'Pvp Night' thread and it's all the usual suspects...) I can't help but be a little disappointed that, even though it's been mentioned twice in this thread, you have failed to acknowledge that you are scheduling a PvP event for the same time as an existing, and long standing event of a similar nature 
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For the OP, monday night is test night, you will be missing many potential people organising another pvp contest the same night. Great to see new offers are sent out tho
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Monday night has been arena PvP night on test for a long time. Although it's great to see a lot of different people agreeing to join in with this (look through the latest 'Pvp Night' thread and it's all the usual suspects...) I can't help but be a little disappointed that, even though it's been mentioned twice in this thread, you have failed to acknowledge that you are scheduling a PvP event for the same time as an existing, and long standing event of a similar nature
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This idea came about from the RV/Heavy discussion. Underpopulation of RV was stated as a possible reason for it's failings. The general idea was to get a lot of people together (including people who do not usually PvP) in RV.
I can't speak for the OP about his intentions but a lot of people who have signed up for this are not the same bunch of people who pvp in the arena on a monday.
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But an inkling of where this might happen could help.
I DON'T have a 50 on Defaint AND Union .
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You need to be only 40 to get to RV.
ps. I recommend against arranging this on monday or sunday night, because those days most often host either test server PVP night or Hami raid on defiant.
Having this on test server also defeats the whole purpose because it excludes all grinders.
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Or you could put all three on a rotation so for example week 1 test server will be on monday night, defiant will be on tuesday night and union will have theirs on wendsday night and then the following week it would be test tuesday, defiant wendsday and union thursday.
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The problem with that is that it gets confusing. People won't remember what day it's supposed to be on. Sure, you can keep announcing it to people, but it's going to stick in people's minds a lot less than knowing that people are likely to be in RV every week on Saturday (just as an example).
I realise that means some people who can never sign on on a particular day miss out, but as far as the live servers go, if the intention is to do this to help up the overall PvP population of RV, then even people who can't come on the exact time or day should see the benefits, as people start to spend more time there.
Also, I forgot to mention before, I won't bother showing up on test. Again, if you want to generally increase the zone's population, an isolated weekly event on test probably won't help much, and it's a lot harder for people to give a shout to others to show up there at short notice, when not everyone has it installed. The live servers are probably more likely to pull in casual players. Obviously, if people want a test event just to play against some people from the other server, go for it, but I think it'd be a shame to make that the main one.
I've already run a Recluses Victory event on Defiant in the past that went well and as a result am organising a monthly bash at it (RV Saturday, last saturday of the month) on Defiant.
A weekly one is too much for my tastes, but if people want to give it a go then good on them!
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I've already run a Recluses Victory event on Defiant in the past that went well and as a result am organising a monthly bash at it (RV Saturday, last saturday of the month) on Defiant.
A weekly one is too much for my tastes, but if people want to give it a go then good on them!
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Arranging that on coming saturday may not be best of ideas because of the double xp weekend.. Most PVPers are propably PLing day and night.
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I can't speak for the OP about his intentions but a lot of people who have signed up for this are not the same bunch of people who pvp in the arena on a monday.
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The PvP we have in the arena on mondays is very friendly and good natured. It is not highly competitive as I think some people get the impression that it is. We run this event to try and get more people involved in PvP, and of late have been struggling to get more than 10-15 people on a regular basis. The kind of people who have posted here are the kind of people we would like to attract to the monday night arena PvP (as much as I know that will never happen for most). This event will only damage that turn-out further.
Most of the people who have posted here do not want to join in the arena, this does not mean that we would not like to partake in large scale activity in the zones. To assume the two events would have a completely seperate demographic is obviously incorrect.
I don't mean to post in a negative way or de-rail the thread at all, as I said before I'm glad (and suprised) to see PvP events of different kinds receiving such a healthy feedback.
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But an inkling of where this might happen could help.
I DON'T have a 50 on Defaint AND Union .
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You need to be only 40 to get to RV.
ps. I recommend against arranging this on monday or sunday night, because those days most often host either test server PVP night or Hami raid on defiant.
Having this on test server also defeats the whole purpose because it excludes all grinders.
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Good point. Same comment then, but for 40 .
I'll be attending on the live server for many of the reasons already explained.
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This idea came about from the RV/Heavy discussion. Underpopulation of RV was stated as a possible reason for it's failings. The general idea was to get a lot of people together (including people who do not usually PvP) in RV.
I can't speak for the OP about his intentions but a lot of people who have signed up for this are not the same bunch of people who pvp in the arena on a monday.
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a.) arranging it on test server is..self-defeating goal because you'd be aiming simply to get higher amount of participants when people from both servers would join. The result would not say much about state of RV on either server alone.
b.) arranging it at the same time as the test server pvp night cannot be anything but damaging to both events. No matter which way you look at it.
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I can't speak for the OP about his intentions but a lot of people who have signed up for this are not the same bunch of people who pvp in the arena on a monday.
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The PvP we have in the arena on mondays is very friendly and good natured. It is not highly competitive as I think some people get the impression that it is. We run this event to try and get more people involved in PvP, and of late have been struggling to get more than 10-15 people on a regular basis. The kind of people who have posted here are the kind of people we would like to attract to the monday night arena PvP (as much as I know that will never happen for most). This event will only damage that turn-out further.
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I've recently started dabbling in Arena PvP and have really enjoyed it. I would love to start doing more and this sort of regular event is right up my street.
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Most of the people who have posted here do not want to join in the arena, this does not mean that we would not like to partake in large scale activity in the zones. To assume the two events would have a completely seperate demographic is obviously incorrect.
I don't mean to post in a negative way or de-rail the thread at all, as I said before I'm glad (and suprised) to see PvP events of different kinds receiving such a healthy feedback.
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Not at all, and I didn't read your post in a negative way. I don't think that the OP was aware of Monday nights being arena night. I'm all for the RV night being moved to another night, and I agree with Master Z, once a week seems a little too much, but I'll definately be turning up for the first one.
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Arranging that on coming saturday may not be best of ideas because of the double xp weekend.. Most PVPers are propably PLing day and night.
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More than likely, but then this is going to be a regular event and I needed to arrange it for a time that I can consistantly make.
I'm not a hardcore PvPer and I hope that some non-regular PvPers turn up as well! Hence the weekend timing, for higher volumes of potential players.
Last time I spammed Arena/Global a bit with some updates on the fight, a few incharacter taunts, etc. and it seemed to go down well!
Plus, everyone can afford an hour or two out from a bit of PL for some fun (because you better believe I'll be trying to grind my last few levels to 50 on MZ!)
As the OP as I am getting called I will attemp to answer some questions concerning the idea!
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a.) arranging it on test server is..self-defeating goal because you'd be aiming simply to get higher amount of participants when people from both servers would join. The result would not say much about state of RV on either server alone.
b.) arranging it at the same time as the test server pvp night cannot be anything but damaging to both events. No matter which way you look at it.
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1) Only the intital Monday will be on the test to see what kind of turn out we can get. I would love it to be on the live servers, for sure, but I wanna make sure its not just me and someother guy on Defiant and twenty people on Union. As doing it over the forumn would take too much time for my attetnion span to take, plus some people seem to not read the boards fully, and then there is derailment to consider. The Test RV night is just to better plan it. I don't wanna over plan it, but under planning it will probably lead to its death, faster than a Heavy one shotting Sliver Weasel.
2) True I was unaware of the arena night, but as I said The Monday can be changed, and hopefuly will accroding to server. It will start on Monday, but maybe next week, defiant says ok, we take tuesday you take thursday? Or we start at 8 on Friday, and Unionites say 7 on Sunday. Thats why some organisation is needed.
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More than likely, but then this is going to be a regular event and I needed to arrange it for a time that I can consistantly make.
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Perhaps we could help plan a Royal Rumble type event monthly once this gets off the ground! As sure a weekly event will help boost your monthly one, by getting more people to join. Tho I would imagaine it would have to be on the test So union villains and deiant villains could fight their server hero counter-parts.
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Also, I forgot to mention before, I won't bother showing up on test. Again, if you want to generally increase the zone's population, an isolated weekly event on test probably won't help much,
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Please do try or I'll PM you what days the defiant or union day will be if you can't. I chose monday because I thought there would be a few more lvl 40s to join us after the double exp event and maybe even encourage people to get there lvl 38s to 40 for it!
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A weekly one is too much for my tastes, but if people want to give it a go then good on them!
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True but then again you don't need to show up every week! Maybe for some a monthly event isn't often enough. Personally the reason I chose weekly was to promote the use of the zone so it seems more full throughout the week, rather than just one day a month. Feel free to only come once, twice or only three times a month! But there is the advantage, if you are a "hardcore" pvp and fancy doing pvp 4 times a month with a good turn you can, and if you only pvp causally then you can come only once a month.
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And just having a day and time decided on takes little organisation, so no one really needs to head it up
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The advantages of having "head" organisers are to filter throught suggestions and give out announcements, in no way do I want this to be a position of power. it maybe a one off postion if it is felt its not needed, but even the most casual social events need some form of organiser.
Speaking of organising I will be making a SG called "Hero Defiant" and inviting everyone from defiant to it, just to get some rough numbers on how many people we have, and to discuss when we on defiant want to have our day.
Can I have three volunteers to make "Hero Union" sg and invite all the Unionites, and Two villains to make "Villian Defiant, and Union" the "leaders" of that sg can them met up and talk about which days the servers agree to do it on.
Example:
SG D: We said we can probably meet friday or sat
VG D: Ya we said Sat or Sunday
SG U: Ok Then we said SUn or MOnday
VG U: We agreed Monday or Tuesday
SG D: Ok then Defiant Sat, Union Mon?
VG U: Sounds great!
Que bridger annoucing it and we off!
Could everyone also Put what servers your on or wish to play in your descripton. Just to make things ru more smoothly?
Example:
UltraNova lvl 43 Defiant
Um, My heroes are already in SG's. I'm not going to drop those to join one just to arrange a PvP event, and I doubt anyone else will either. Unless you mean on test, in which case the same applies! My heroes are in SG's on test as I use them to test base functionality and am NOT giving up on all that lovely prestige they don't give away anymore!
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My heroes are already in SG's. I'm not going to drop those to join one just to arrange a PvP event,
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Make another copy of them is the easiest solution. Yes you can do this, they just appear like this UltraNova1, UltraNova2, UltraNova3.
Any other problems with monday?
I know that... But all my test server slots are full
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Ya they do! You get 3millon for starting a SG and 20000 for being teh first member?
Other than that you could always just stand near us and use local chat. Its not mandatory. It just helps get things running smoother.
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Wouldn't the easiest solution be get people to state their toon, server and prefered day here, just to get a rough idea?
Blind Minataur - Union - Sundays (How's that for starters?)
Regarding communication can't we just use arena chat on test? Or set up a new global channel?
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And your Ice Tank only gets one-shotted because of Forge and Melt Armour. We usually charge in before the heavies are even with us. Thermals eat Tanks for breakfast.
Following on from deleted thread.
Just been in RV for an hour.
After 50 minutes, two dominators came in.
Their heavy pummeled me. I got back up, surprised them and they had themselves fully healed and me dead before I could fire a second shot.
Let's hope it's actually a game with more people.
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I just have to check, because the situation sounds far too similar...
Are you sure it wasn't two Corruptors with no heavy, who came over, debuffed you, and killed you? And then you attacked them on top of City Hall, and they healed themselves, and then killed you, again with no heavy at all?
Sorry if it actually happened to you twice, but it just sounded all too familiar.
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Heh 1 vs 10 it was on union and they were a thermal and a kin
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If it was the Thermal and the Kin, there was no heavy involved, on this occassion.