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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).
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That does explain the success rate of Union Hami raids
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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).
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Not really Mesmer: it's been either lack of controllers or too much lag because of people not following instructions 
(at least we don't have n00bs pulling GMs into the jelly 
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CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
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With both AM and Conserve Power in your locker, and maybe a little liberal slotting, would there be an arguement for non-Stamina?
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I would say take stamina.
Having both Conserve Power and AM is nice because you can alternate between faster end regen, and end discount. Since end regen from AM isn't as effective as the endurance discount, that's where stamina helps.
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Funnily enough, my toon Miss Guile is a Ill/Rad Controller whom I'm developing without Stamina. It's an experiement I decided to start a few months ago to see if it could be done.
She's now lvl 30 and by using AM with Hasten (to make sure AM is up as often as possible), her endurance is buffed about 2/3 of the time (I can't recall exactly, my hero planner's not on this PC).
I had to skip some power choices obviously - Group Invis instead of Superior Invis, and no Choking Cloud (didn't want it anyway) - but she solos on Invincible without difficulty and her endurance fairs even better in teams.
My one area of concern is EBs and AVs, when fights run on long enough to drain her end bar. Her next power choice is going to be Phantasm, which will up her sustained damage output and passive damage/control output a great deal.
Even if that doesn't fix the AV problem, well she can still solo AVs better than any of my other alts - and she's still leveled faster than any of my other alts too! 
I know you'll probably think me crazy for attempting this, but at the end of the day, if it didn't work for me I would just respec her into Stamina, no biggie. That day hasn't come yet.
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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).
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Not really Mesmer: it's been either lack of controllers or too much lag because of people not following instructions (at least we don't have n00bs pulling GMs into the jelly )
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well, Choking Cloud would defenitely fall under the "too much lag" problem now, wouldn't it? 
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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).
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Not really Mesmer: it's been either lack of controllers or too much lag because of people not following instructions (at least we don't have n00bs pulling GMs into the jelly )
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well, Choking Cloud would defenitely fall under the "too much lag" problem now, wouldn't it?
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TBH I wouldn't mind a few rads running CC if it helps with the holds (as long as people are not spamming useless powers). Worked fine at the last successful (public) raid
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
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yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).
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Not really Mesmer: it's been either lack of controllers or too much lag because of people not following instructions (at least we don't have n00bs pulling GMs into the jelly )
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well, Choking Cloud would defenitely fall under the "too much lag" problem now, wouldn't it?
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TBH I wouldn't mind a few rads running CC if it helps with the holds (as long as people are not spamming useless powers). Worked fine at the last successful (public) raid
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that's the thing really. It hardly helps with the holds and several rads running it, will greatly add to power lag. So the benefit does not outweigh the negative effect it has. You're much better off having those rads all spam AM, so that everyone's holds recharges much faster. It's much more effective.
... that and not have people use things like Earthquake and Steamy Mist
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No, it wouldn't - at least not server lag. If it is causing graphical lag, then you need to ratchet your settings down.
To paraphrase something I heard in a bar once.
"A hold's a hold"
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You're much better off having those rads all spam AM, so that everyone's holds recharges much faster. It's much more effective.
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Ermm... yes... that and the odd Tentacles and Siphon Power 
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
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I dunno about that. Didn't look like they knew what they were doing when I was at that raid. Next time remember to tell them to prez teh butenz.
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well, Choking Cloud would defenitely fall under the "too much lag" problem now, wouldn't it?
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No, it wouldn't - at least not server lag. If it is causing graphical lag, then you need to ratchet your settings down.
To paraphrase something I heard in a bar once.
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Really, really have to say that in this case a hold is not a hold, we differentiate between Troller holds, Epic holds and Blaster holds for example. Been said before many times but lag kills Hami raids and powers like CC do add to lag, not everyone has a PC that even on minimum or safe settings can cope with a large amount of excess powers, thats the whole reason we run raids the way we do.
That said we are getting a tad off topic so I wont go on and of course its all imo.
Cheers,
White 
Heh, well I see this turned into quite the erm....discussion :S
This is my final build so far which I've taken from all your advice and some personal choices of my own. Obviously this is just a build and i'm likely to changes things as I play through and I find what works and what doesn't. For the moment I find this is good in theory and you guys have said and agreed at least that I've got the *core* powers from the sets which I can't complain about.
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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://sherksilver.coldfront.net/index.php)
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Name: Name ?
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Radiation Emission
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01) --> Spectral Wounds==> Dmg(1) Dmg(3) Dmg(3) Acc(5) Acc(5) Rechg(11)
01) --> Radiant Aura==> Heal(1) Heal(11) Heal(15) Rechg(15) Rechg(17) Rechg(50)
02) --> Blind==> Hold(2) Hold(13) Acc(46) Acc(48) Rechg(48) Rechg(48)
04) --> Accelerate Metabolism==> Rechg(4) Rechg(7) Rechg(7) EndMod(9) EndMod(9) EndMod(50)
06) --> Deceive==> Acc(6) ConfDur(50)
08) --> Hurdle==> Jump(8)
10) --> Air Superiority==> Acc(10)
12) --> Radiation Infection==> TH_DeBuf(12) TH_DeBuf(13) TH_DeBuf(17) EndRdx(25)
14) --> Fly==> EndRdx(14) Fly(34) Fly(34) Fly(37)
16) --> Swift==> Run(16)
18) --> Phantom Army==> Rechg(18) Rechg(19) Rechg(19) Dmg(21) Dmg(21) Dmg(23)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(23) EndMod(25)
22) --> Lingering Radiation==> Rechg(22) Rechg(31) Rechg(31) Acc(39) Acc(43)
24) --> Enervating Field==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(27) EndRdx(31)
26) --> Spectral Terror==> Acc(26) Fear(27)
28) --> Flash==> Rechg(28) Rechg(29) Hold(29) Hold(36) Acc(36) Acc(36)
30) --> Group Invisibility==> Rechg(30) Rechg(37) Rechg(37)
32) --> Phantasm==> Dmg(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Acc(33) Acc(34)
35) --> Hasten==> Rechg(35)
38) --> EM Pulse==> Acc(38) Acc(39) Hold(39) Rechg(40) Rechg(40) Rechg(40)
41) --> Fire Ball==> Dmg(41) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Acc(42) Acc(43) Rechg(43)
44) --> Fire Blast==> Dmg(44) Dmg(45) Dmg(45) Acc(45) Acc(46) Rechg(46)
47) --> Super Speed==> Run(47)
49) --> Recall Friend==> Rechg(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> EndRdx(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
01) --> Containment==> Empty(1)
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Is there anything glaringly obvious i've missed?
I would three slot hasten, and get it much much earlier. and get armor instead of second travel power, it really makes a difference
Well, concenring you build just a few points I would choose in a different way... Just two suggestions:
Accelerate metabbolism is one of your must powers and one of the greatest buffs in game, but it starts to shine when you get at least dual origin rech enh. Otherwise it takes ages to recharge... On the other hand, Radiation Ifection is one of the best lvl 1 (lvl 2 in the case of trollers) in game and is fully useful from lvl 1 to 50...so I'd recommend you to switch AM with RI... And even if you want AM earlier than 12, you could delay hurdle and/or air supperiority. Do not get me wrong, AM is just amazing, but during the lower levels you will use it once every five fights while you would use radiation Infection on every singel fight (and it will keep you alive!).
Finally, Flash... If we keep in mind that you alredy have Spectral Terror, Phantasm and Phantom Army plus Lindgering radiation, Radiation infection and Enervating field...If you have to use it you are already dead 
Frankly speaking,in my oppinion hasten is much more significant in oreder to get AM and PA up as often as possible.
Cheers.
yep - I had it six slotted with holds on the only successful raid I've ever taken place in on Union (the public ones anyway).
Synaesthetix:if your mum wasn't already dead I would go kill her for bringing
you into the world