Is this build dreadful? (SS/Elec)


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Name: Rage Dump
Level: 50
Archetype: Brute
Primary: Super Strength
Secondary: Electric Armor
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01) --> Jab==> EndRdx(1) Acc(29) Dmg(29) Rechg(31) Rechg(33)
01) --> Charged Armor==> EndRdx(1) DmgRes(3) DmgRes(3) DmgRes(5) EndRdx(46)
02) --> Haymaker==> EndRdx(2) Acc(15) Dmg(21) Rechg(23) Rechg(23) EndRdx(37)
04) --> Conductive Shield==> EndRdx(4) DmgRes(5) DmgRes(7) DmgRes(7) EndRdx(46)
06) --> Hasten==> Rechg(6) Rechg(43) Rechg(45)
08) --> Knockout Blow==> EndRdx(8) Acc(9) Dmg(9) Rechg(13) Rechg(15) EndRdx(40)
10) --> Static Shield==> EndRdx(10) DmgRes(11) DmgRes(11) DmgRes(13) EndRdx(48)
12) --> Lightning Field==> EndRdx(12) Acc(43) Dmg(43)
14) --> Super Speed==> EndRdx(14)
16) --> Grounded==> DmgRes(16) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(17)
18) --> Rage==> Rechg(18) Rechg(19) Rechg(19) TH_Buf(21) TH_Buf(34)
20) --> Hurdle==> Jump(20)
22) --> Lightning Reflexes==> Run(22)
24) --> Health==> Heal(24) Heal(25) Heal(25)
26) --> Stamina==> EndMod(26) EndMod(27) EndMod(27)
28) --> Boxing==> Acc(28)
30) --> Conserve Power==> EndRdx(30) Rechg(31) Rechg(31) Rechg(46)
32) --> Foot Stomp==> EndRdx(32) Acc(33) Dmg(33) Rechg(34) Rechg(34)
35) --> Power Sink==> Rechg(35) Rechg(36) Rechg(36) EndMod(36) EndMod(37) EndMod(37)
38) --> Power Surge==> Rechg(38) Rechg(39) Rechg(39) Acc(39) Hold(40) Hold(40)
41) --> Tough==> EndRdx(41) DmgRes(42) DmgRes(42) DmgRes(42)
44) --> Soul Tentacles==> EndRdx(44) Acc(45) Acc(45)
47) --> Dark Obliteration==> EndRdx(47) Acc(48) Acc(48)
49) --> Summon Widow==> Acc(49) Acc(50) Dmg(50) Dmg(50)
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01) --> Power Slide==> Empty(1)
01) --> Sprint==> EndRdx(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Acc(1)
01) --> Fury==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Rechg(2)
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First EA, now Elec... you're a glutton for punishment mate!


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Take punch instead of jab, boxing can be your first tie power effectively when you've got it.

Stamina, powersink AND conserve power may be a bit overkill on the end stakes there. Take conserve power and respec it out at 41 with your patron respec possibly.

Not sure if the Acc and Holds in Powers surge are required, for a situational power you may find the slots some better use elseware, like having 2 ACC, 2 End Disc and 2 Recharges in as many of your attack powers as possible, and your Dmg in Lightening field may be better off being another end disc.

Oh, and when you do get to Grandville have fun looking for elevators and doors as SS is a nightmare there, as on any off the CoV maps.

Above all experiment and have fun


 

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it makes my eyes burn !
Depends what you want it for but i'd defo take aidself instead of tough as that thing will make your life a living hell with end and aidself gives a better percentage res in the long run.
i wouldn't slot powersurge with acc/dmg as when you have your downer you lose all end and health so if it misses and it will your dead meat..3 recharge 3 res for pvp 3/2 for PVE.
i'd also slot attacks 2 acc but thats me.
lighting fields sucks mucho end for very little dmg .. do ya really need it ?.
don't need both powersink and conserve .. powersink alone will do.
don't need recharge in footstop either .. quick enough with hasten...more dmg plz same with KO Blow


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Another SS/Elec build! YAY

I have a Brute with the same primary and secondary at level 28, so I'll share some of my experiences with you.

1) This a basic rule for all Brutes: Put 2 acc enhancements in all your attacks, even if you don't PvP. This way you'll be able to play on Relentless and hit most of your attacks.

2) As I decided to Fly and took Air Superiority, I chose Punch over Jab. But you decided to have Boxing, which is fast enough to build Fury. If you decide to keep it, get Punch, if you chang your mind, keep reading.

3) I tried Tough in another Brute of mine and after using Aid Self, I can tell you that it's much more effective as it heals all types of damage. The only disadvantage is that it can be interrupted, so slot it with at least 2 intredx and you'll be able to use it even while fighting with some skill. It will also help you regain some health when Power Surge crashs, something Tough won't help much.

4)Lightning Field... depends on your style. So do what suits you best.

5) Conserve Power + Stamina + Power Sink = one wasted power slot. My toon has only Stamina so far and I rarely run out of end while fighting mobs. The only time it ever happens is against AVs. Let's see what happens when I get Hasten and Foot Stomp. Personally, I prefer PS over CP because of it's use in PvP and against EBs for example. So take CP out of your build.

6) Some people say you should have one endredx in each shield, some people say you don't need any. IMO, the end cost of the shields are very low and you don't need any. But 2!? That's 3 slots wasted, at least.

7) Foot Stomp: 2acc and 2 dam at least. No recharges.

8) Grounded: The resistance bonus is very small, putting 3 damres you give you only a 3% or 4% bonus. Use this 2 slots somewhere else.

9) Power Surge: There's no need for Hold duration IMO. I agree that at least one acc can help you survive, but put some damres to raise your toxic res, which will be useful in the end game.

10) Good luck with SS in the end game, CoV maps are not SS friendly. I suspect that you chose this travel power because of Grounded. I picked Fly and AS. It's a personal choice but so far I had no problems.

11) Fury. If you decide to drop boxing and not take AS, keep Jab. If you get one of them, get Punch.

12) Level 40+: Your problem, not mine hehe Although I can recomend the first power of any patron, and GW has a nice -acc debuff.

Phew! I hope I gave you some ideias


 

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1) This a basic rule for all Brutes: Put 2 acc enhancements in all your attacks, even if you don't PvP. This way you'll be able to play on Relentless and hit most of your attacks.


[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, play on relentless so you miss as much content as possible!

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I've no idea what the fixation with fly and air sup is with ss/elec, for PVP fly is the worst travel power going for a brute and theres no need for air sup as theres plenty of knockdown in SS as it is.

As for shield slotting heres some maths for you
3 shields no end reduxs 0.130 X 3 = 0.390 EPS
3 shields 2 end reduxs each 0.74 X 3 = 0.222 EPS

All that = more smash = more fury = more damage.
Pre lvl 35 you'll want as much end as possible.
For PVP its even more important.

Grounded
its 11% neg nrg 14% NRG 3 slotted not 4%
Altho the 3rd slot gives only 1% neg NRG 1% NRG so is only worth 2 slotting.


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1) This a basic rule for all Brutes: Put 2 acc enhancements in all your attacks, even if you don't PvP. This way you'll be able to play on Relentless and hit most of your attacks.


[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, play on relentless so you miss as much content as possible!

<_<
>_>

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Or.... slot 1 acc, play on ruthless, have more mobs to fight and be able to slot your attacks so you can use them more often, and for less end. I guess it depends on if you prefer harder foes or more foes. With my brute I like a large pile of bodies around me. Makes me feel more brutish


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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Grounded
its 11% neg nrg 14% NRG 3 slotted not 4%
Altho the 3rd slot gives only 1% neg NRG 1% NRG so is only worth 2 slotting.

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That's what he said: The 2 slots only give a 3-4% bonus on top of the base of 11%.

And if you go into decimals in those calculations, you'll see each of the slots increase the Res by a set amount, i.e. 20% of the base for an even level SO. The third slot is as affective as the second, they just both do only about 1.5%.


 

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1) This a basic rule for all Brutes: Put 2 acc enhancements in all your attacks, even if you don't PvP. This way you'll be able to play on Relentless and hit most of your attacks.


[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, play on relentless so you miss as much content as possible!

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>_>

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Hehe people forget that you only play on malicious at the Max MaX, but some people want a bit more of a challenge lol.

Besides most of us altoholics do get to see just about all of the content with a variety of alts, so a moot point really.


 

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Besides most of us altoholics do get to see just about all of the content with a variety of alts, so a moot point really.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, but the point is seeing all the content with every alt


 

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Agreed.


I cant believe I'm agreeing with MaX, look what you made me do Paul, I blame you!


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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1) This a basic rule for all Brutes: Put 2 acc enhancements in all your attacks, even if you don't PvP. This way you'll be able to play on Relentless and hit most of your attacks.


[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, play on relentless so you miss as much content as possible!

<_<
>_>

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Well, what can I say, I like a good challenge.

I agree about losing content, but even playing on Relentless I can see a good porcentage of it, and I've seen the rest with my other toons.

About Fly: it's a personal choice. I wanted a toon that had Fly and that's my first Brute who doesn't need Acrobatics. I just gave him some options.


 

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I've no idea what the fixation with fly and air sup is with ss/elec, for PVP fly is the worst travel power going for a brute

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Lighting reflexes can be slotted for either running speed or flying speed.


 

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I've no idea what the fixation with fly and air sup is with ss/elec, for PVP fly is the worst travel power going for a brute

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Lighting reflexes can be slotted for either running speed or flying speed.

[/ QUOTE ]Flight is still bad


 

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Yeah, Flight is not that useful in PvP. My main toon has SJ and SS, and they work fine in RV.


 

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Besides most of us altoholics do get to see just about all of the content with a variety of alts, so a moot point really.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, but the point is seeing all the content with every alt

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But is that actually possible...........Don't quite think it is really, even on villanous, and most certainly not on CoH even on heroic, just too much content out there really.

Or in otherwords MaX...........Tell us how.As you can't do all the patron arcs with every alt for a start, and if you team any your're going to outlevel a lot of cantacts.


 

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What exactly are you agreeing to m8, that you never want to fight anything harder than a Lt, or the fact that you want to explore every inch of the game with every alt till you've seen it all and get so bored the next time you don't bother, or choose a differant route the next time. Differant contacts, explore the game universe differantly, discover something new..............

Or do you want to be secure in the knowledge that you can take on 2-3 white minions and the odd yellow lt, but know where all the mission arcs go and tell people about how the games missions work above everyone else.

I've being playing nearly a year, and disagree a lot about what MaX has said on certain parts of this forum, and we've probably had a chuckle or too along the way.

I don't agree that DPS is the king in the game either, its a mix of damage and survivability that do the job, doesn't matter if you can dish out loads, if you have no mittigation, wethers its debuffs, buffs armour, holds etc, you can still generally only take down 1 enemy ata a time, and the aoe's whilst good, especially in groups and having therefore a high dps spread it out, thus leaving plenty of incoming. Bit long winded but get my point.

Content is content, the game is supposed to be replayable, and you can choose a differant path each time, we'll as soon as you're out of Port Oakes that is..........Bloomin Radio, sick of him lol.

Agree with MaX if you want, but playing inside your capabilities is a shame, makes the game too easy, and thus not challenging. Treat it a bit like real life and push your characters boundries, see if you can take on that extra bit. If you can all the better if not well a bit of debt gets you closer to the deatless badge you need for High Pain Threshold anyway.

Content you miss with one alt won't disappear, you can explore a differant path next time and enjoy it for the first time.