Hot Feet? Thoughts/Opinions/Advice/Tactics

Scyta · 08-20-2006 01:26 PM

As the title said. Think it's good? It sucks? Awesome? How to use it? etc...

Cyberknight · 08-20-2006 03:02 PM

depends how you use it , without proper aggro control is can be a instant face plant

i usually worked this way
hold mob
immoblize mob

run in with imps and hot feet

reap xp
depending on your secondary you can twist it a bit i know of people who run choking cloud and hot feet wich can be fun if you can afford the end use

if you have a tank to hold the aggro you can sit on the edge of the mob and watch those numbers take down that mob(i have seen my aoe higer than a fire tanks flaming aura , but that just may depend on build )

Okton · 08-20-2006 04:10 PM

I would recommend it for Fire trollers who are /kin (you have to be in melee anyway, and it works nicely with Fulcrum) or /rad (since you can usually handle the aggro). Not sure it's worth it for other secondaries though.

CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

Archy · 08-20-2006 05:09 PM

Basically what CyberKnight and Okton said. If you can afford the endusage it's absolutely brilliant.

Outdamages imps too

what's your secondary?

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Animal_Mutha_EU · 08-21-2006 06:46 AM

I have a vl 16 troller and love hot feet. I use AS as my main single target attack and HF for taking down mobs.

I am Fire/Rad so I tend to use the following:

1. Fire Cages (re-applying as needed)
2. Radiation Field (loaded with tohit debuffs)
3. Run in with HF
4. Heal myself as needed.

Playing with a nice Empath really helps but when I get Flash Fire and Envernating field I should imagine I will be going through mobs like hot butter.

I also have AM (3x Recharge & 3x End Mod) and this helps a lot as the build is such an end hog.

aaaARMSaaa_EU · 08-21-2006 09:34 AM

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I have done the faceplanting bit many times, many many times. I sometimes wish there was a self rez somewhere I could get.

I just get a bit over confident now and again. The debt does go very very quickly though.

1. Flash Fire
2. Firecages
3. Run into center of group
4. FS
5. Fireball
6. stand around for a few seconds ...

doing this with carnies can be a little dangerous due to them being defeated all at he same time and then all my toggles dropping because of the end drain.

I normally turn Hot Feet on when I start the mission, then on again when i get mez'd. Transfusion is used quite frequently.

Tristar_MaaT · 08-21-2006 11:49 AM

Loved it till the mid 30's then switched to Choking Cloud instead. Still use it but with Fireball and Fireblast I find I just don't need it as much as I used to.

Okton · 08-21-2006 12:00 PM

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Loved it till the mid 30's then switched to Choking Cloud instead. Still use it but with Fireball and Fireblast I find I just don't need it as much as I used to.

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You've been talking to Chillblaze/Pyrus too much Ma'aT

*points to Archy's post about Hot Feet's damage*

CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

Tristar_MaaT · 08-21-2006 12:34 PM

When I have a Kin helping my Endurance I run both CC and Hotfeet.

I am going to try different slotting to see if I can afford to run them both at the same time.

Scyta · 08-21-2006 01:32 PM

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Basically what CyberKnight and Okton said. If you can afford the endusage it's absolutely brilliant.

Outdamages imps too

what's your secondary?

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Firey Assault. I play a dominator actully. Just following the advice from the Dom guide to ask trollers since they've been playing around with the same powers for years.

Besides, think it's a bit evil to get the enemy reveal it's secrets for me. Muhahahahahahahahahahahahah!

I'm just having trouble choosing between Smoke and Hot Feet and wanted some input on HF before making my choice. (Note: I'm getting invis to Smokes -perception won't affect my choice.)

Okton · 08-21-2006 01:37 PM

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Besides, think it's a bit evil to get the enemy reveal it's secrets for me. Muhahahahahahahahahahahahah!

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Get Jump Kick then. Really good power. Slot heavily for EndRdx too

CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>

Carnifax · 08-21-2006 01:38 PM

Personally I wouldn't bother with Hotfeet for a dominator. No Containment bonus and no support secondary to boost it in any way or to keep yourself safe in melee.

Had it with a lowbie Fire/Thorns and it just ate End for little return.

On my Fire/Rad its fantastic though, even though I've Imps now too. If End gets tight it goes off for a while but normally I can have Hotfeet, Choking Cloud, RI and EF running happily, especially when AM is also up

Idris · 08-21-2006 03:03 PM

Consider that it is affected by Fiery Embrace and Domination, though, so that could add up to pretty reasonable damage.

I also wonder if the base damage is better for a Dominator. Logically it should be since damage modifier is higher..

The point about safety is very valid, though. Arctic Air sometimes draws a fatal amount of aggro and it's a lot better than Hot Feet at damage mitigation..

Archy · 08-21-2006 03:20 PM

Personally think doms shouldn't go for Hotfeet. The lack of debuffs/damage mitigation from a controllers secondary will probably get you killed more than than it actually benefits you + the fact that Hotfeet (only) really shines with containment.

Incinerate, Fire Breath and Fire Blast should be plenty of damage before Imps...+ you get Blaze at 38

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SteelRat · 08-23-2006 06:23 AM

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Besides, think it's a bit evil to get the enemy reveal it's secrets for me. Muhahahahahahahahahahahahah!

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Get Jump Kick then. Really good power. Slot heavily for EndRdx too

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Not only that, but to turn your Dominator into a REALLY effective tank I'd recommend 6 slotting brawl for endrdx, 6 slotting rest.. 3 recharge, and 3 end rdx, and most importantly of all. Take Flurry.

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X_treme · 08-23-2006 07:51 AM

for a /kin or /rad troller who can debuff and keep themselves alive hot feet is truly amazing due to containment

for a dom with no debuffs, no containment and no good way of staying alive i wouldnt bother, unless u want a little bit of unreliable stalker protection in a zone

ChillBlaze_EU · 08-23-2006 08:56 AM

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Loved it till the mid 30's then switched to Choking Cloud instead. Still use it but with Fireball and Fireblast I find I just don't need it as much as I used to.

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You've been talking to Chillblaze/Pyrus too much Ma'aT

*points to Archy's post about Hot Feet's damage*

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Doesn't that depend on how long the fight lasts?

To Scytha,

I picked up Hot Feet when Pyrus was lvl 12(ish). This was back in I3 and it left quite a permanent, and very negative, feel to the power. I respecced out of it as soon as I could.

Currently I don't need HF (Although Okton says otherwise) at lvl 50. fire ball, blast and fire imps do plenty of damage for me (assisted by kinetics ofcourse ).

Now it could be quite a useful power with containment but keep in mind that it's a dangerous power to use (for both a dom and a troller) and in your case, it might take up endurance you needed for your fiery assault attacks...

Archy · 08-23-2006 09:02 AM

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for a /kin or /rad troller who can debuff and keep themselves alive hot feet is truly amazing due to containment

for a dom with no debuffs, no containment and no good way of staying alive i wouldnt bother, unless u want a little bit of unreliable stalker protection in a zone

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Loved it till the mid 30's then switched to Choking Cloud instead. Still use it but with Fireball and Fireblast I find I just don't need it as much as I used to.

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You've been talking to Chillblaze/Pyrus too much Ma'aT

*points to Archy's post about Hot Feet's damage*

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Doesn't that depend on how long the fight lasts?

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AoE is king in PvE

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