Hey blind, Maybe he took everyones kills? like they get him down to like 2hp and he whams 'em for the kill?
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Not the case, I was watching him and he was truly awesome. I asked him afterwards how he did it, but my lack of knowledge with stalkers just left me confused. I've never played a stalker btw.
he could be using combos, such as build up, total focus, and the other one, or a similer combo. Don't supsoe you remember his powersets?
Once you hit 34 with an EM stalker, you are looking at a BU+TF, ET, placate, bonesmasher combo that will pretty much decimate a mob of three +3s in about 6-8 seconds. Very rarely will you need to use AS.
PVP wise, that same combo will take out defenders, trollers, blasters, and some scrappers (just repeat the combo for them). Tanks take three or 4 runs through.
It's still nice to have AS available though for purple bosses/EBs/AVs, or to shorten the time it takes to kill scrappers and tanks.
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Once you hit 34 with an EM stalker, you are looking at a BU+TF, ET, placate, bonesmasher combo that will pretty much decimate a mob of three +3s in about 6-8 seconds. Very rarely will you need to use AS.
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This sounds like what he was doing. I think it was EM too. I might roll one myself, and go a more scrapper route.
EM got some VERY powerful attacks later on, that get rid of AS as a "necessity" to a mere "luxury". Energy Transfer iirc is even higher damage than Total Focus and has a crazy fast animation. Get some speed, home in on your target, activate buildup when close, queue energy transfer and zoom past.
By the time they realize what hit em, you're kited past em so they cant have an auto-melee power hit you in return. Blasters putting bonesmasher on auto can be a real PAIN for stalkers relying heavily on AS. Also this hit from energy transfer will leave most foes stuck on a sliver of health while you can take your pick in your attacks to finish him or her off.
A fast stalker that knows how to use energy melee is a very very dangerous opponent indeed. One that doesnt need to rely heavy on stealth and AS.
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lol thanks for the compliments minataur.
Morgan got it one BU+TF+ET+Placate+Bonesmasher will take out most ATs quickly.
Although there are times when AS would come in handy but I get along fine without it so dont see much point in using up another power slot just to get it. I dont use stealth either, its quite easy if you use the enviroment to your advantage.
The sets are EM/SR btw so I get quickness to keep the chains going for the tougher ATs, the stun effect from the EM attacks helps a lot too. The endurance is quite bad though but I've got used to it.
I could post up my build if you want but he does need a respec.
P.S I did leave the SG but I only moved to another one that you've got in coalition.
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Once you hit 34 with an EM stalker, you are looking at a BU+TF, ET, placate, bonesmasher combo that will pretty much decimate a mob of three +3s in about 6-8 seconds. Very rarely will you need to use AS.
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This sounds like what he was doing. I think it was EM too. I might roll one myself, and go a more scrapper route.
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BU and TF and BU and ET doesnt take out +3 minions in the higher levels, will leave them with a sliver of health which means your attack is slowed by having to use finishing moves like energy punch. However EM AS is enough to take out a +3 minion without the need for BU so AS, BU+ET, placate and TF (with energy punch to finish) is the way to clear +3s in seconds.
EM is a striker set not a scrapper IMO, it has huge burst damage but TF is slow to recharge so there can be a gap in the chain in high lvl pvp and energy punch and barrage just dont fill it 
However I have nothing but good things to say about DM/SR which is the best stalker "scrapper" set out there and with one shield (focused fighting) at lvl 34 was more than able to out scrap most scrappers. DMs -acc stacks up really fast and Touch of fear is godly, I went in sirens the other day and there was the usual gaggle of heros in the water waiting to pick off venturing villains so I just went round spamming fear on them (with quickness and slotted its a 3-4 second recharge time and also add in -acc) and a few mins later they all left 
All the -acc coupled to SRs def is wonderful too watch them have to resort to accolades to hit
DM/SR is my fotm tip of the week
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Dm/ninjitsu is the ultimate squishy killer, great stalktroller build, played with one during RV event and damn it was good.
Energy Melee and (imo) Martial Arts are sets that can do very well without AS. Eagles Claw critical is just fanastic along with placate crane kick, a squsihy is dead.
hehe yeah DM/SR is quite good you got me a few times.
Glad I've got a DM/EA on the go.
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lol thanks for the compliments minataur.
Morgan got it one BU+TF+ET+Placate+Bonesmasher will take out most ATs quickly.
Although there are times when AS would come in handy but I get along fine without it so dont see much point in using up another power slot just to get it. I dont use stealth either, its quite easy if you use the enviroment to your advantage.
The sets are EM/SR btw so I get quickness to keep the chains going for the tougher ATs, the stun effect from the EM attacks helps a lot too. The endurance is quite bad though but I've got used to it.
I could post up my build if you want but he does need a respec.
P.S I did leave the SG but I only moved to another one that you've got in coalition.
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Sorry I couldn't remember your name mini. I rolled a EM/Nin last night. Going to see how it gets on over the double xp weekend, I've always fancied a stalker for PvP. I had a Claws/Regen but didn't really like him.
What do you guys think of the EM/Nin combination?
its fun, got one myself, however its very very heavy on the blue stuff, so use your toggles wisely 
also the lack of KB protection might be a prob, but that depends on the player and how he copes
P.S. DM/SR ftw! even though mine is a scrapper 
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Is Ninjitsu as good as SR? What is generally considered to be the "best" stalker secondary? I want to be able to Scrap.
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Ninj def isnt as high as SR but its not such a tight build as if you pick SR you may as well take the full set to maximise defence. Ninj does have a self heal that SR does not though. Ninj doesnt have knockup/down protection so acrobatics is a must restricting your travel powers or any broadsword scrapper will simply juggle you to death.
As for scrapping as I said before EM is not the set to do it with, its massive burst damage and its attacks do nothing to prolong your life in a battle. Ninja Blades divine avalanche increases your def massively but best of all for scrapping is Dark Melee as the -acc stacks so fast they will be lucky to hit you at all. Touch of fear cuts through all those mez protects thats holds cant break with impunity. IMO for a stalker "scrapper" its DM/SR all the way
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A mate of mine has a EM/Nin stalker and she does quite well even when she chooses not to use AS, so its up to you if you choose whether to go the AS-less route or not.
But as Nefarious said it does lack knockback protection but it gets fear res instead which comes in handy now that almost everyone is running around with fear.
Nin is quite similar to SR but instead of more Def it has some nice powers like a nice self heal with a few other tricks like caltrops, blinding powder and its own version of elude.
So u can't go to wrong if u slot well and keep an eye on your endurance.
P.S. Couldnt agree more on DM/SR. Wanted a break from SR though so picked EA. Its quite good so far can't wait till I've got fear/more def/end drains/even more -acc.
Blind Minataur is EA so I would probably avoid this for my Stalker as I love to try out powersets I've never played. As it's double XP weekend I might try leveling a DM/SR and a EM/Nin and see which I like best.
hiya Stalk, you said EM does nothing to prolong your life in combat, well i'd call a boss dazed a lot, ie disoriented for the majority of the combat a definate bonus.
My experiance of stalkers is all EM/EA, and I do mainly solo on visious all the time, to me stalkers are assassins out to kill the boss types on there own, but have had masses of fun in all the teams I have joined with him, so fighting 3 foes at once is usually the maximum I do.
AS takes care of the first, then BU+ET and barrage the second then Bone Smasher, Energy Punch and Barrage melee the third, very fast, very efficient.
For the Boss, who usually has only one guard at this Diff lvl, I AS the guard, placate the boss, and leg it lol.
Hidden once more its back for some BU, AS, ET, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch, Barrage, Placate, Leg it.
Rest if hurt and to replen end, back and usually a AS will finish him off. Of course if the blighters disoriented I just keep pummalin him, which happens quite a lot.
The key to my tactics is eliminating all of his goons around him first, which EM seems to do really fast.
Anyway all of you probably have way more experiance than me at stalking, I'm sure all of the sets have there plus and minuses which balance themselves out in the end, but being able to have 3 attacks in a set all classed really as "Extreme" seems to be of great benefit to a class which is all about assassinating individuals (Yes I know AS is only extreme if used from Hidden)
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Once you hit 34 with an EM stalker, you are looking at a BU+TF, ET, placate, bonesmasher combo that will pretty much decimate a mob of three +3s in about 6-8 seconds. Very rarely will you need to use AS.
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This sounds like what he was doing. I think it was EM too. I might roll one myself, and go a more scrapper route.
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BU and TF and BU and ET doesnt take out +3 minions in the higher levels, will leave them with a sliver of health which means your attack is slowed by having to use finishing moves like energy punch. However EM AS is enough to take out a +3 minion without the need for BU so AS, BU+ET, placate and TF (with energy punch to finish) is the way to clear +3s in seconds.
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BU+et almost 1 hit kills reds without the help of TF...critical TF is a fact you shouldn't forget..
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Once you hit 34 with an EM stalker, you are looking at a BU+TF, ET, placate, bonesmasher combo that will pretty much decimate a mob of three +3s in about 6-8 seconds. Very rarely will you need to use AS.
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This sounds like what he was doing. I think it was EM too. I might roll one myself, and go a more scrapper route.
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BU and TF and BU and ET doesnt take out +3 minions in the higher levels, will leave them with a sliver of health which means your attack is slowed by having to use finishing moves like energy punch. However EM AS is enough to take out a +3 minion without the need for BU so AS, BU+ET, placate and TF (with energy punch to finish) is the way to clear +3s in seconds.
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BU+et almost 1 hit kills reds without the help of TF...critical TF is a fact you shouldn't forget..
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um AS kills one, BU +ET almost kills another (finishing energy punch after as you are maximising BU) Placate + tf (crit) almost kills another then u got 2 who have one hit left in them stumbling around who u nrg punch to death. BU+ET+TF on a minion would be madness
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Once you hit 34 with an EM stalker, you are looking at a BU+TF, ET, placate, bonesmasher combo that will pretty much decimate a mob of three +3s in about 6-8 seconds. Very rarely will you need to use AS.
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This sounds like what he was doing. I think it was EM too. I might roll one myself, and go a more scrapper route.
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BU and TF and BU and ET doesnt take out +3 minions in the higher levels, will leave them with a sliver of health which means your attack is slowed by having to use finishing moves like energy punch. However EM AS is enough to take out a +3 minion without the need for BU so AS, BU+ET, placate and TF (with energy punch to finish) is the way to clear +3s in seconds.
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BU+et almost 1 hit kills reds without the help of TF...critical TF is a fact you shouldn't forget..
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um AS kills one, BU +ET almost kills another (finishing energy punch after as you are maximising BU) Placate + tf (crit) almost kills another then u got 2 who have one hit left in them stumbling around who u nrg punch to death. BU+ET+TF on a minion would be madness
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srry did read it wrong..my bad
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Once you hit 34 with an EM stalker, you are looking at a BU+TF, ET, placate, bonesmasher combo that will pretty much decimate a mob of three +3s in about 6-8 seconds. Very rarely will you need to use AS.
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This sounds like what he was doing. I think it was EM too. I might roll one myself, and go a more scrapper route.
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BU and TF and BU and ET doesnt take out +3 minions in the higher levels, will leave them with a sliver of health which means your attack is slowed by having to use finishing moves like energy punch. However EM AS is enough to take out a +3 minion without the need for BU so AS, BU+ET, placate and TF (with energy punch to finish) is the way to clear +3s in seconds.
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BU+et almost 1 hit kills reds without the help of TF...critical TF is a fact you shouldn't forget..
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um AS kills one, BU +ET almost kills another (finishing energy punch after as you are maximising BU) Placate + tf (crit) almost kills another then u got 2 who have one hit left in them stumbling around who u nrg punch to death. BU+ET+TF on a minion would be madness
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srry did read it wrong..my bad
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nah after re-reading it myself it could easily be taken the wrong way, it sounded pretty ambiguous
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Well, one of my friends got 400 rep in sirens call without using AS, Basicly energy transfer with BU can knock a scrapper down to half health alone, and with placate and the critical of bone smasher, would take it down to near enough death, energy stalkers dont always need AS, and thats why i like them.
A few weeks back I did a raid with my VG. We had a Stalker back then who I don't think is with us anymore. He said that he might be the only Stalker without AS on Union. Ha, I thought, why make a Stalker and not take AS? Why gimp yourself like this?
Guess what happened? He out killed everyone participating in the raid. He got something like 38 kills (I was 2nd with 32). Any idea how this is even possible? I think he may have been Energy Melee but I'm not sure.
Needless to say I was very, very impressed and would like to know how this was done.