Any of us Dominators hit 50 yet?


Boy_Wonder_EU

 

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No where near myself but a lot of 50 Ding's in the Villains forums and most seem to be Brutes so was wondering who's leading the way for us Dominators?

(Only 42 myself though my brute is 49)


 

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I think I saw Arctyc Apocalypse on Union was 48 yesterday, that's the highest I have seen. I'm only 45 myself.


 

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I think someone must've been dinged to 50, two days ago I saw a level 49 Fire/Energy Dom. Can't recall his name though...
He had Scirocco as his patron IIRC.


 

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Have seen both a Mind and a Grav in the high 40s, 47 IIRC. but no 50s


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I'm still languishing on 41. It seems to be really hard to get teams at the moment at my level, and I'm not very good at soloing EBs.


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I'm still languishing on 41. It seems to be really hard to get teams at the moment at my level, and I'm not very good at soloing EBs.

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I've found Shivans help with this. With domination, a shivan and the flytrap EBs are pretty much toast.


 

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But I cant smash the turrets quick enought to get a shivan solo.

And getting nukes is soooo tedious.


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I am a bit annoyed because dominators seem to be uniquely disadvantaged against the AV -> EBs. After having fought quite a few lately, it seems to me that they retain both the AV mez shield that goes up and down and EB mag mez protection, so they're actually harder to hold than AVs. I might be wrong though, sometimes it's hard to see the purple triangles in combat so I'm not always sure if the shield is up or down. All in all, it sucks and I don't really understand why the triangles have to be there.


 

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Yeah, the purple triangles are the problem. Native EBs are a pushover.

I think purple triangles is a power, and powers don't change when the AV is converted to an EB. I certainly met one AV who didn't appear to have the purple triangles and I was able to perma-hold. I suspect they forgot to add the power to his power list.


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I am a bit annoyed because dominators seem to be uniquely disadvantaged against the AV -> EBs. After having fought quite a few lately, it seems to me that they retain both the AV mez shield that goes up and down and EB mag mez protection, so they're actually harder to hold than AVs. I might be wrong though, sometimes it's hard to see the purple triangles in combat so I'm not always sure if the shield is up or down. All in all, it sucks and I don't really understand why the triangles have to be there.

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I agree - So I I have put my 42 fire/fire dom on a shelf, and started to run with a Brute.


@Boy Wonder

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actually, i cant say i have any real problems with Hero-EBs.. with domination i can easy perma hold them, and without i still keep holds up atleast 70% of the time.. the main issue i feel is when i run out on end, and my holds/attacks start to become less intense lol.. so i pack a nice set of bleus when fighting Hero-EBs

I should add that im gravity/fire, and has good holds and sing's help alot with the hold-spam. fire dmg is also good for killing them fast enough

And regarding Doms having disadvantages... i cant agrea.. i have played all ATs in both CoV/CoH to atleast lvl 40, and i can say since ED, i feel */fire doms to be one of the strongest powersets in the game, as my dom can rip up mobs alot faster than any of my brutes and with the patron shields making me almost as tough as a brute, all i realy lack is mez-resist.. which im really longing for to get through Items of Power..... whenever that may open up to the paying public

Edit: btw, to respond to the topic: im lvl 48 atm, and will be lvl 50 before the weekend.


 

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Your experience wildly varies from mine, and everyone else's I've read about. Unless Singularity is extremely good at holding, I think you must have been very lucky to hold through the purple triangles that well. It sometimes happens that I can keep an AV or EB with triangles held for a majority of the fight but it's more an exception than a rule. Regular elite bosses on the other hand tend to be pushovers for my dominators.


 

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Sing's are (if slotted with 3 duration) just as good at holding as me, just not as reliable if there is more than 1 target, coz then it can start placing holds on random enemy. but at best, the Sing will work as an additional dominator and that will stack up to 18 Mag without hasten or domination.. with hasten and my AoE hold i can temp stack up to 24 Mag which is enough to hold AVs (normal AVs, doubt i could hold statesman) then add 1 min of domination into that every 4th(?) min (think its 6 min recharge on dom, with hasten that is reduced i think)

But it is still dangerous, coz the EB will break free at times and will be able to throw several attacks (and Hero-EBs like positron uses slow, and that will totally mess up the stacking cycle and it can very much kill u unless u packed alot of insps lol) and without good defense against EB-attacks u can die very fast if ur not paying attention.


 

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Mag 24 is normally not enough to hold an AV when the purple triangles are up. IIRC there was a dev post on US forums stating that the mez protection it gives is around 50, but with modifiers for different archvillains. However I can't find the post now. My plant dominator did once hold a Hero version of Sea Witch for the entire duration of the fight, but I suspect she's weak to mez.


 

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I never managed to chain hold Hero Sea Witch, but I chain held AV Jonny Sonata. I think the devs may have forgotten to give him purple triangle power.


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I never managed to chain hold Hero Sea Witch, but I chain held AV Jonny Sonata. I think the devs may have forgotten to give him purple triangle power.

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Oh yeah, I remember reading someone else did, too.

Must have gotten lucky with Sea Witch. Anyone know if there's a pattern to how the purple triangles go up and down? It seems pretty random to me.


 

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A couple of things -

Firebases in Bloody Bay.
I can take one out solo and only one of my attacks is slotted for damage, out of three I have to use. Impale has no damage slotted nor has Thorny Darts. I can't believe Icy Assault would do less damage than I do at that level since I guess both Ice Blast and Ice Sword would have damage slots? My one slotted attack is Skewer with 3 damage enhancers.

I hit the base with Domination and use standard red insps to boost damage.

Hero-EBs.
I don't usually go through missions solo especially not AV ones because generally I find missions more fun in a team, but I've just tried two missions with Synapse and one with Indigo and managed both solo. I used Shivans with Synapse both times and without anything with Indigo to see how I would do.

Both times I used a stack of resistance insps and damage at least 5 of each I'm doing enough damage that I take out the EB in about 60 seconds. Both Synapse and indigo managed to hit me a lot and mez me, I used one BF insp both times, I had to use Aid Self twice and a heal insp with synapse. I'm not relying on holding them too much, I held Synapse for a while but he managed to whizz about, do a lot of damage and stun me but because of my high resistance and very high damage (both partly from insps) I got him before he got me.

So I've discovered what works for me is to act like a blaster and just out damage the opposition, if you can do it in 60 seconds you win.


 

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With Ice you run out of endurance before the firebase is dead.

I prefer to team too, but I'm finding it very dificult to find one.


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Regarding the firebase, I haven't tried it solo but when I've duo it with a stalker we always take all the turrets to very low health first and then take out last slivers of health as fast as we can. Did you do that?


 

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Regarding the firebase, I haven't tried it solo but when I've duo it with a stalker we always take all the turrets to very low health first and then take out last slivers of health as fast as we can. Did you do that?

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Nope. Frosty McNeil told me about that wheez, I tried it couldn't get it to work I then gave up bought some reds and just did it straight off. I was on 2 or 3 (so that's +50%/+75% damage) standard red insps for each turret, none of the turrets were bosses, I think 2 lts. and 2 minions.

Using inspirations is important, whether its blues, reds or whatever. I took a couple of greens as well to keep going fast.


 

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There's no room in your tray for anything but blues if your Ice......


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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There's no room in your tray for anything but blues if your Ice......

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I simply don't believe that:
Thorns
Darts dmg:2.716 cost:4.368 rchg:3
Skewer dmg:5.948 cost:8.528 Rchg:8
Impale dmg:4.238 cost:6.864 rchg:6

Ice
Bolt dmg:2.594 cost:5.2 rchg:4
Sword dmg:4.555 cost:8.528 rchg:8
Blast dmg:5.201 cost:6.864 rchg:6

You can't seriously tell me that 2 minutes attacking a firebase requires you to have an entire tray of blues whereas in the same situation I can't lower my endurance using my attacks. I tried it again yesterday starting with domination flatlined, same result and I certainly didn't need a full tray of insps.

If you absolutely can not find anyone to team up with to take on an EB, you can take out a firebase solo at high level (in order to get a Shivan team mate). As I said before only one of my attacks is slotted for damage, I can't believe an Ice Assault dom would not slot Sword and Blast for damage.

There's no point in using any control powers in doing this - they don't do anything to the turrets.


 

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Filth, I'm not sure where you took your numbers but Ice Blast is nowhere near that good (and PRAF skipped it, which may be his problem in Bloody Bay). If he tries using Ice Sword Circle on turrets he may indeed going to run fast out of endurance, and using just Sword and Bolt he might not be fast enough. Using Ice Bolt, Ice Blast and Ice Sword, I definitely don't run out of endurance but I have an endurance reduction slotted in each.

Ice Blast has DS 0.86 ( Ice Bolt is 0.65, Ice Sword is 1.23 and, for comparison, Impale is 1.18).

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Actually, looking at it again, those damage scales must be wrong. However Ice Sword does more damage than Ice Blast at all points of the game, and did so even before the melee damage boost.


 

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I checked the Prima guide and it looks like Thorns does do quite a bit more damage for Impale and Skewer (I got my numbers from Hero Builder ), however, I've got no damage slots in Impale so looking at your numbers wouldn't a 3 slotted for damage Blast out-damage a base Impale attack?

Sure, if you don't have the attacks at that level then you will need another person. I still think if you have Bolt, Sword and Blast you could do it. I've not had a problem recruiting newbies to do the Shivan Shard mission back when I thought you couldn't solo it, since it's low level many new players wander in there.

The other thing to say about the bases is that trying to solo one with a boss turret is just silly, you can choose which base you go for.


 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I could take a non-boss firebase solo, with some inspirations (reds, oranges and greens, as I don't have Aid Self)