The Nature of Roleplay
Wonka, I must say that I am a bit perplexed by the "hijacking" part of your post.
As the one who originally mentioned the idea of an IC- coalition back on page 4 of this thread, I feel that I would then be the one responsible for this "hijacking".
If my post is what is referred to, I would just like to point out that I voiced this idea as a genuine bona fide suggestion to what I thought was a thread aimed at discussing (and possibly generating more) RP/IC meet-ups in game, and it certainly was not the intention to hijack.
Frankly (and this is not aimed at you Wonka), I am amazed at all the negativity the idea has generated. Sure enough, it may have been a bad idea due to i.a. the technical limitations imposed by the game and the fact that non SG-characters can not join a coalition - fair enough; but I still think the basic idea of people meeting up for IC-missions is a good one, and if all ideas regarding expanding the RP/IC community are "shot down" in advance, then of course they will never succeed.
I apologise in advance if I misunderstood your reference to hijacking, but felt I had to comment from my understanding of it.
Your post wasn't the one I was talking about. I was actually meaning when the name of the post got changed halfway down page 7 (on a 10 posts per page layout)... Hijacked was the only word that came to mind (probably not the best) because substituted sounded off.
I always think that if you feel the need to change the title of the thread, you should be starting a new one...
I'm not against the coalition idea, I couldn't care less how people choose to play. I just wish people would stop sniping at Aisla and the other so-called GG Veterans for being anti-everything-but-GG, we're not. I for one couldn't give a monkey's how you decide to RP in the game, it's not for me to tell you how to do that.
Secretly I actually want most of you to all go away from GG so we can return it to the pristine state it was before you all turned up.
Thanks for the clarification.
I am glad that I had misunderstood and apologise again for doing so.
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On an utterly unrelated note, I have a horrible feeling that you'll find that the SG's themselves will only survive it you have the majority of the players only playing one alt, and near-constantly working together. Of the two long-running IC SG's (at GG) the GoD did exactly that, and the Cirque still do a lot of missions etc together.
The one that really stands out in the graveyard is the Vigil, notable mostly for the fact that every single OC member was still playing until about a month ago.
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Slightly, but not entirely, OT, but I found this amusing.
From my view, and this may fit in with what you say about "playing one alt", the GoD and the Cirque survive best on xenophobia. The biggest arguments I've seen in both groups have been over the integration of new members. Generally, the arguments start at the point of expansion.
The Vigil also collapsed when it began to expand, but the idea that the main players are still playing is a bit odd. There were five, two of them had to give up playing for several months at the point where the Vigil was just taking off. One of them is back (Finn), White_Warlock appeared and vanished again about a month or two ago, but he hadn't been in game for months prior to that.
The basic size of a tabletop game to be comfortable is 4-6 players. I think that RP SGs operate similarly. Get above about 6 players and you're starting to stretch things. Tensions develop, people disagree about base building or the new members policy. I think the Cirque escaped this early on by being a dictatorship of sorts: everyone did what Jest er said. As things have got a bit more democratic (and Jest er has grown up ), the arguments have got louder and bigger.
Anyway, I tend to think small RP SGs tend to be heavily cliquey and rather xenophobic. They work badly at GG (a statement of fact, not a quality assessment).
Large RP SGs tend to be less cliquey, but also far more open to destruction through internal tension. Less cliquey, but not entirely lacking, and more likely to have internal cliques (usually based around friends and rank). Ultimately, large groups are doomed to fail, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try them.
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Mate... Looking at what's going on in the Cirque right now, I can only say that you appear to have hammered that nail right through a few peoples sensitive spots!
Listen to these wise words people. As an SG get's bigger, different opinions start to make themselves known, discussions happen, get heated, and people leave... A dictatorship CAN work (as with the Cirque), but only whilst it stays small. And if people start to get bored.. BOOOOOM!
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Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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A dictatorship CAN work (as with the Cirque), but only whilst it stays small.
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It works with very large groups, but you need a strong dictator and a population willing to go with it. Unfortunately, between changes in Jest er's personality, Ringmaster's new job keeping him away from the game during 'normal' hours, the need to hand out jobs to others (e.g. base building), and a less restrictive recruiting policy, the Cirque has become a little headless.
The Vigil went the same way to a large extent, though the participants will argue about the exact sequence of events, I'm sure.
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the Cirque has become a little headless.
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A small understatement there I feel... But, we're trying to sort it out!
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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the Cirque has become a little headless.
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A small understatement there I feel... But, we're trying to sort it out!
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The democracy way... We're doomed, aren't we?
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the Cirque has become a little headless.
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A small understatement there I feel... But, we're trying to sort it out!
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The democracy way... We're doomed, aren't we?
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Correction.. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!(*)
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Whereas come and join the GoD, and assuming you get in, you'll be a martyr to whatever's breaking Mina this week
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Yeah, some people think that Doc T leads the GoD.
Some think it's a democracy.
Those in the know, know the actual history of leadership.
But those who are really in the know, know that the real leader of the GoD is Mina's Neuroses.
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There's a clear distinction between RP'ing the game i.e. doing door missions etc in character and milling about under GG having a chat with your mates.
The only player I've met who actually grouped and did missions in character was Red Commissar and very good at it he was too.
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This may surprise people but i have got into character many times on non rp teams without them even knowing it.
I merely talk about stuff in ways that people can take as out of character rl stuff but is also in character in game stuff that way i rp anywhere when i want to and not look like a fool to people who dont get RP. I dont get most peoples RP as i work to different rules.
Galaxy its night time my question "are you tired, do you need some sleep?"
In RL its 2 am
There we go a very basic example i know but i can go through an entire night of thinking up ways to be in and out of character at the sametime.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Tell me about it. I was expecting to be awol a fortnight at most, not 2 months :/