/ice isnt that bad, i'm quite enjoying it 
Though its good for PvP as it is now imho, fire is likewise not realy superior in PvP.
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I've enjoyed it too!
oh since we're at it, that lvl38 power is a sleep power. But i cant quite understand if its around yourself or around a foe?
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oh since we're at it, that lvl38 power is a sleep power. But i cant quite understand if its around yourself or around a foe?
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Frozen Aura, yep PBAoE.
I respe'd this out a long time ago, as the accuracy was not great, think I may try 4/5 slotting it this time
When I use 1 of my respecs!
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You mean "I will not respec back into it because it's a really [censored] power", right?
As others said, /ice has some fairly average powers (who takes Frozen Fists except for detoggling in PvP?), but also some great ones: Ice sword is nice for blapping, Ice patch rocks, Shiver is very useful and stalkers will hate you for Chilling Embrace. Blaptrollers ftw!!!111!!!
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
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I respe'd this out a long time ago, as the accuracy was not great, think I may try 4/5 slotting it this time
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I will respec it back because I have a feeling it'll rock with 4/5 slots in, only had 2 I think before!
Yes, I use my shiver & Ice sword in pvp a lot, Love it Hehe, Stalker just love my ice tank's chilling embrace 
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I will respec it back because I have a feeling it'll rock with 4/5 slots in, only had 2 I think before!
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OK, don't say we didn't warn you 
. I would suggest taking Freezing Touch before Frozen Aura unless you plan to solo (and even then!). IMO a group sleep with low accuracy is not the most useful in high-level teams, but let's see what you think of it. Now if this were your controller...
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
I think its pretty logic taking freezing touch before frozen auro, since they are resp. available at 35 and 38 After that its time for the epics anyway.
Is the accuracy lower then normal?
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Is the accuracy lower then normal?
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No, but since you will be facing higher-level foes, you'll probably need a couple of acc enhances.
I know FT is available before FA, that doesn't mean you have to take them in that order I took FT at 38 on my blaster (and skipped FA). It also depends on how many powers you take from your Epics (not many people take all 4).
CoX 50s: <ill/rad> <ice/ice> <fire/kin> <grav/sonic> <ice/storm> <earth/kin> <kin/elec> <cold/psy> <thugs/dark> <fire/dark> <dark/elec> <night widow> <EM/ninj> <mind/icy>
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Ice sword is nice for blapping, Ice patch rocks, Shiver is very useful and stalkers will hate you for Chilling Embrace. Blaptrollers ftw!!!111!!!
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Yup, Ice has some good PVP powers. Ýou should also add Chilblain for the -fly component. Very handy when those Villains try to fly off.
I just wish it had more damage though. I enjoy playing my Ice/Ice as it plays very differently from my Fire/Nrg, but the difference in damage is just ridiculous. I say increase the damage in Ice Sword and replace the LV38 power with something that hits very hard, like Total Focus. Also, a -jump component on Chilblain would kick [censored] .
Isnt a immobilize already going -jump? Or do imm-protected people also get -fly even they are not getting immobilized?
I think for the secondairies its the same as primairy, its focused more on control then on output damage. Primairy ice has no snipershot, has no uber nova (crappy blizzard) but has a extreme way of slowing down mobs to a nearly stop. This continues into the secondairy, -slow -slow -knockdown -slow -hold -sleep, all pretty crowed-controlling powers.
I specialy like chilling embrace (erm.. correct spelling?) around a tanker who got a bit over his head. Run in to slow down their attacks, drop a icepatch and (if inv tanker) frozen auro. Spam a freezing touch on the annoying one and a chillblain on the flying mob, crowd-control to the max (as far blaster can CC).
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Isnt a immobilize already going -jump? Or do imm-protected people also get -fly even they are not getting immobilized?
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Well i know that Web grenade has a -jump and I think all immobs have -fly, but I don't think all Immobs have -jump. I think it's a very good ability to have in PVP, especially in combo with slows.
Wouldn't be without my chilblain, it's been a saviour in pvp too
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Isnt a immobilize already going -jump? Or do imm-protected people also get -fly even they are not getting immobilized?
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Well i know that Web grenade has a -jump and I think all immobs have -fly, but I don't think all Immobs have -jump. I think it's a very good ability to have in PVP, especially in combo with slows.
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The secondary isn't great, quite a few of the powers are take it or leave it imo. FA was useless no matter how many accuracy SO's went in it, before ED I tried it with 4 or 5 iirc and accuracy was still rubbish, and that was against much lower mobs. It was pointless trying it against even mobs or higher.
ice/ice here aswell.
ice secondary doesn't really bother me, never had the urge to reroll as a ice/nrg or something but I do feel it's lacking alittle. My only melee attack is ice sword and it seems to be roughly equivelant (sp?) to the damage of ice blast. Not bad, untill you start looking at /elec and /nrg.
I do love ice patch tho, when I get in over my head I just take two steps around the corner and drop ice patch. After that the remaining enemies are easily defeated.
edit: I find ice/ice really good in PvP to be honest. I only fought 1on1 with this char with other blasters but the stacking slows are a godsend.
Why is a PBAoE sleep in a set with Ice Patch?
Anyway, I have a Fire/Ice, works very well.
Ice is the 'controllish' set of them all. Now i read that FA has such a bad accuracty, i might have to rethink the rest of my build 
Did the epic ice set also had a aoe hold/sleep power? My tanker has the stone epic with that salt-crystals wich has a realy good accuracy.
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The ice epic does have flash freeze which is an AoE sleep. Months ago I read someones guide on the US site which mentioned some epic power which was described as 'what Frozen Aura should have been like' but I can't remember if this was referring to flash freeze. I never took the cold mastery set.
i checked that flash freeze, hero builder says it has a -20% base acc (yet TH even says 60%). Frozen aura is just stated as normal TH75%.
Compared to my stone epic of my tanker, salt crystals, wich has a -10% base (67.5% TH) but when i use it, it has a quite high rate of succes (2x SO acc slotted).
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i checked that flash freeze, hero builder says it has a -20% base acc (yet TH even says 60%). Frozen aura is just stated as normal TH75%.
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Yeah mine says this to. It may be that they have changed the power but it definetly was pants, either by accident or design. I haven't had it since I respecced it out, but that was probably 9 months ago now.
Ah, found out that -20% is 20% from 75% (=15%), thats how they got to 60% base TH. Imho, 2 acc SO would do the trick already, so far most of my toons go around with just 1 acc SO and hit still pretty good.
Maybe due PvP the 'hype' is 2acc SO atm?
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Okay so I've heard near enough every derogatory comment about this set. It also belongs to my 1st toon ever, when I was a complete n00b (maybe still am!) & chose it.
, yes it's not that much use in pvp, I'd agree, if you're going for the blap approach it doesn't compete with your average bonesmasher or charged brawl. I also feel that maybe a couple of powers could be changed to make it better for pvp & to equal out the sets, something like Greater Icesword, Bitter Torrent (bit like energy torrent but with knockback & DoT) or some more damage on frozen fists? 
Had this toon over 1 year now & have learned the advantages as well as the weaknesses. Besides that I love this toon & very attached to what I have created 
Some say it's completely useless just by concept! I disagree, you can hold them off with immob, slow them down, slip them all up & if they come too near you can slice them with your trusty ice sword.
Now that it's strongly a CoPvP game - the one I didn't buy from the shop shelf
I'm not really all that fussed about negative the comments I've had
(PS Maybe I should have put part of this in the suggestion section)
@Knight Eye - Lvl50 Elec/Ice blaster 281 badges [censored] set to so many, but I've enjoyed it