Ice / rad or mind / rad.
50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
Rad is probably the best secondary for 1v1 overall, however, I recently fought a level 40 Nin/Dark MM and was completely walked over with my Ill/Rad troller (allowed him to fully upgrade all pets 1st).
Dont have terror in my build atm which would have helped but the only troller I could kill him with was my fire/storm.
Anyway what it showed me at least is that it really depends what your up against and in the future you should probably be planning on fighting more and more tough villains. I completely underestimated MMs, next Ill be losing to a Dom 
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Gorgog
Hmmm then i must be something wrong, since my Illu/rad seems to do worse than my fire/ff in PvP.. prolly bad slotting then... Now that i managed to kick some regens butt, a fire/kins hit me even on my ID... and whats worse, an invul/ss tank did that later (OMG!).. nevertheless I revenged with my fire/ff later 
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Hmmm then i must be something wrong, since my Illu/rad seems to do worse than my fire/ff in PvP.. prolly bad slotting then... Now that i managed to kick some regens butt, a fire/kins hit me even on my ID... and whats worse, an invul/ss tank did that later (OMG!).. nevertheless I revenged with my fire/ff later
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You prolly are, its a very rare day if I loose on my ill / rad. Ill take on your fire / ff anyday if your up for it, with my ill / rad troller. Just have to be on test server cause right now Im running a pure PvE build.
Btw ice / kins are also very nice for 1 on 1 pvp, except against defence sets or sets with good tohit buffs like rad.
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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
why ice and not another primary?
Slows
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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
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Hmmm then i must be something wrong, since my Illu/rad seems to do worse than my fire/ff in PvP.. prolly bad slotting then... Now that i managed to kick some regens butt, a fire/kins hit me even on my ID... and whats worse, an invul/ss tank did that later (OMG!).. nevertheless I revenged with my fire/ff later
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You prolly are, its a very rare day if I loose on my ill / rad. Ill take on your fire / ff anyday if your up for it, with my ill / rad troller. Just have to be on test server cause right now Im running a pure PvE build.
Btw ice / kins are also very nice for 1 on 1 pvp, except against defence sets or sets with good tohit buffs like rad.
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no doubt u would, but sadly we cant find out. I cant afford test server (having 40 Gbs HD sucks), and thats why I have 2 illu/rad lv50, to pvp on both servers with it (building it again sucked too 
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Still I would love that arena match if u r up to, i dont mean to win, just to learn :P
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Well, we've had a post about best troller for soloing, then about best troller for teamin... so I guess it's time to see which troller would u like best for PvP, 1 vs 1 intended, or it would depend mainly on the rest of the team powersets.
IMO Illu/Storm. The nice dmg Illu deals, spectral terror, that can keep immob mez resistant ATs, and an active stealth, that allows u to attack while invis.. combined with the debuffs and slow (and detoggles) properties that makes storm shine, are good enough to make it my fav for PvP... (although fire/kins is great too)
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depends entirely on whether ur talking 1v1 or teams? if teams it depends entirely on ur team mates builds. fire/kin is very good 1v1 but isnt so good in teams
Errm yeah, I think I said 1 vs 1 
. Well in case it wasnt clear b4, I meant 1 vs 1 
, so u think fire/kin is the best combo then?
Would think Fire/Rad > Fire/Kin 1v1, unless your up against an AT with pets.
Gorgog
Fire / kin over fire rad unless the guy your fighting has defence or tohit debuffs. eg SR, Rad and so on. I dont understand what pets has to do with it though.
50s
controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
Just cos of boost to Fulcrum Shift tbh. Not a big fan of kinetics though, not only do you have to hit to buff and debuff you cant debuff acc or defence. Also you can more or less fire and forget Rad's buffs and debuffs alot of the time.
But then I am just a Rad fanboy , esp for 1v1s.
Gorgog
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Union
Trolls:Ill/Rad,MC/Rad,Fire/Storm
Blap:Ice/Nrg
Offender:Rad/Psi
Tank:Ice/Stone
Vilians
Stalker:Spines/Regen
Corrupter:Ice/Rad
Brute:Stone/EM
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Would think Fire/Rad > Fire/Kin 1v1, unless your up against an AT with pets.
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while the debuffs wud make it hard for the fire/kin to win against fire/rad there are always builds that will trump others, i would go fire/kin as it dominates so many other builds, fire/kin can bring down RES class scrappers and tanks like they were squishies. A good SR scrapper will defeat me every time but they can't bring down a regen, the point is while fire/rad while probably top fire/kin a fire/kin can top many more builds 1v1 than fire/rad, imo anyway
Guess its hard to say as ive not fought more then half a dozen SR and Regen and alot has to do with build but Ill/Rad seems to deal with both equally well.
Spines can be tricky purely due to luck with ranged crits but then I would think spines would be even nastier for Kin.
Ive had probs vs fire/rad and a fully upgraded Nin/Dark.
Other then that pretty confident vs all others, 1v1 that is.
So would still say Rad > Kin for 1v1, I would rather be able to beat everything more slowly then most quickly .
Think also what I am trying to say is that Rad should be better vs more sets as it buffs and debuffs almost everything while Kin doesnt.
Gorgog
Edit: hmm, just read that you think Rad cant take on as many builds. Not saying your wrong but can you pls tell me which so I can look out for em.
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Union
Trolls:Ill/Rad,MC/Rad,Fire/Storm
Blap:Ice/Nrg
Offender:Rad/Psi
Tank:Ice/Stone
Vilians
Stalker:Spines/Regen
Corrupter:Ice/Rad
Brute:Stone/EM
not speaking from experience but i would have thought ss brutes and tankers will eat u alive, blappers i wud think wud find it a lot easier to beat /rad than /kin
I have never been neutered so badly than by Fire/Kin, speaking as a Regen Scrapper.
I'm guessing Fire/Kin would have trouble with anything that doesn't have pets or very high Defence, anything else should be easy enough.
World of Jackcraft.
/kin has a big problem in 1on1's. No autohit self heal.
When fighting /kin trollers, dont let him get into range and use trafusion to heal himself.
My money is on the /rad in most situations.
A Paragon Defender
So far, touch wood, ive had very very little problem fighting any brute as long as AM and LR are up.
Rad may take longer to kill regen, but so far its certainly not been impossible.
Think winning with Kin can be a hit or miss thing, if you know what I mean 
, and for me less reliable.
Edit: Damn why do I always end up editing? . Vs blasters most ATs will have probs vs a good blaster if the blaster gets the drop. If not, its about even going on to favour Rad in my exp.
Gorgog
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Union
Trolls:Ill/Rad,MC/Rad,Fire/Storm
Blap:Ice/Nrg
Offender:Rad/Psi
Tank:Ice/Stone
Vilians
Stalker:Spines/Regen
Corrupter:Ice/Rad
Brute:Stone/EM
what do u mean by "hit or miss"? i have never had a problem with using my kin 1v1
the best union blappers are a problem for me but its usually pretty close where as i think /rad wud be far easier for a blapper to beat, the only AT i have that can usually consistantly beat blasters is my fire/energy tank
with ss brutes and tanks they can hit through LR using rage without a problem
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/kin has a big problem in 1on1's. No autohit self heal.
When fighting /kin trollers, dont let him get into range and use trafusion to heal himself.
My money is on the /rad in most situations.
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Depends on your primary Night, some primaries are very good for getting a person to stand still, ice and mind and to a lesser degree earth.
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controllers: Ill rad , grav rad, fire kin, ice kin
blaster: ice em
scrapper: spines sr
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/kin has a big problem in 1on1's. No autohit self heal.
When fighting /kin trollers, dont let him get into range and use trafusion to heal himself.
My money is on the /rad in most situations.
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with siphon speed this has never been a problem for me...
Grav/storm FTW!! but thats just cause I have one
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what do u mean by "hit or miss"?
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Kinetics has to hit with its buffs, debuffs and heals, Rad doesnt, apart from its slow.
Thats what I mean .
Gorgog
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what do u mean by "hit or miss"?
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Kinetics has to hit with its buffs, debuffs and heals, Rad doesnt, apart from its slow.
Thats what I mean .
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ok except i hardly ever miss unless i'm debuffed, was discussing this with a mate and the great thing about /kin instead of /rad is u can give imps SB and ID, making them unstoppable killing machines an aoe stun/hold attack wud put /rad's imps out of the game leaving u wide open...
Well, we've had a post about best troller for soloing, then about best troller for teamin... so I guess it's time to see which troller would u like best for PvP, 1 vs 1 intended, or it would depend mainly on the rest of the team powersets.
IMO Illu/Storm. The nice dmg Illu deals, spectral terror, that can keep immob mez resistant ATs, and an active stealth, that allows u to attack while invis.. combined with the debuffs and slow (and detoggles) properties that makes storm shine, are good enough to make it my fav for PvP... (although fire/kins is great too)