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The biggest problem I feel that empaths have is that the damage is nerfed because you cant 5 slot it. So damage went from very low to nothing. And there by you lost all real soloing ability. You can still do it but it takes a hell of a long time.
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i personally make a point of getting some of a defenders missions done if i have them on a team no matter what level it is this is because defenders are the most unsoloable afaik and missions especially ones that are timed are an absolute nightmare for them.
The primary on my defender is an empath primary and therefore a team orientated primary. my lvl 50 has lvl 40 arcs left on her i never really bothered to solo her as she isnt really meant to solo. Her being so far behind shows that alot of people dont even think of picking a defenders mission as they are often low xp leaving the defender to clean up later in their own time which is unfair imo.
There are certain arcs that i feel are very important to a defender one being the stephanie peebles arc for wedding band lvl 20-25 its great for them later on in things like hydra and clockwork king etc or anytime they are compromised and need to be still standing they can toggle on and toggle off to keep the usage time down and the their toon alive. Alot of the time if a defender (empath in particular) goes down the rest of the team follow which is why the defender should attract as little aggro as possible and its cool to help them get that wedding band incase they do.
If many defenders could solo easier would they team? or play for badges and solo? It could be a no win situation for teams.
I think what would be nice if people helped the defenders out with a couple of missions a lot more often. Personally having one of every other AT I have the defender alot more unsoloable and way more tedious trying. I dont enjoy helping a blaster 20 lvls lower on a totally doable mission solo and i think they should be with their own level anyway but when it comes to defenders i really dont mind at all. Just as long as people dont think thats all i come on the game for (ie log on as shannon - instant tell "are u doin dreck?" or "can u help me to lvl 50 plzzz" kind of thing).
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
even if it is 13% base as opposed to 11%, that would be the same accross the board so we can still se whether the powers have increased or decreased and by how much...
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I didnt say you couldnt, and I would have pointed it out if it was different. I just wanted to correct the base value(it seemed to low for me) and give my two inf. on empaths in I6.
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I did some random testing with the help of different empaths, and the base value of healing aura is 13%.
I like Nightbringer feel that empaths got of lightly with ED. The problem with empathy is like most other builds is the lack of perma hasten compared to I5. If we dont include that nerf you were hardly affected by ED.
The biggest problem I feel that empaths have is that the damage is nerfed because you cant 5 slot it. So damage went from very low to nothing. And there by you lost all real soloing ability. You can still do it but it takes a hell of a long time.
But overall I feel that the empathy set was buffed teamwise cause you are now a great addition to a team instead of barely being worth your xp.
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Oooooo controversial!!! hehe
I feel as an Empath on a team I've always earned my XP. Especially since Tankers got so nerfed and herding started to disappear from the game.
With ED it's now a struggle for me to fully support an 8 man team. I'm right now as I type this playing through one of the Shadow Shard TF's and it's frantic!!!!
But I'm coping.
I think alot of people THINK that Empaths didn't get too badly nerfed because most of us are healer orientated, and not Damage orientated. Also we don't complain much, just get on with it.
Like any of the archetypes you REALLY need to have played that archetype at a decent level to really understand what was done.
I've seen people bandy figures around left right and centre and it's easy to hide behind such stats. But truth is if you talk to most high level Emapths they'll tell you that:
a) Their heal ability has dropped around 35%
b) Their powers take longer to recharge
and c) Perma Hasten is no longer a requirement
Figures don't tell the story, it's an experience thing. More happens in a battle than just laying down a blanket of heals. Hence you "Heal Rate" becomes largely irrelevant. It's all about the "one shot heal" amount and that has suffered badly.
Take the battles I am waging tonight. Currently we are facing hordes of Nemesis. Almost my entire time is being spent throwing heals about, spamming my Aura and the ocassional AP when required. It's not leaving me much of a chance to keep everyone CM'd, or Forted.
Pre ED I could have had this team looked after, had them all CM'd and Forted the top 4 who needed it constantly. Now it's just become a frantic rush to just keep them alive.
Which is why you increasingly see two Empaths working side by side now. Either splitting the team in half and taking 3 each, or splitting the duties, one healer and one buffer. I've worked with both Kathaan and with Black Medic in similar situations.
Oh yes..... and yup Syn, Stamina comes in well handy now I've resorted to spamming my Healing aura during battle. 
It's dead handy and I'd recommend it to all Empaths.
a) you don't need the perma click for Hasten anymore so use it somewhere useful
b) With stamina and a couple of End reds you don't notice the end drain at all.
c) It gives your team a safe haven to run to if they need a heal and you are busy.
d) It sometimes catches teammates you may not have spotted or just happen to be in range. Meaningyou can concentrate on the more problematic people.
Best thing I ever did!
Blueside Level 50's.... Knightingale (Def), Rogue Elevenex (Blast), Lady Rogue (Scrap), Mr Infinity (Tank), Miss Infinity (Troller), Knight.Shade (WS), Knight.Bringer (PB)
Redside Level 50's... Colonel Rogue (Brute), Sergeant Domino (Stalk), F411-OUT (Dom)
Next Project: Psiryn Psi/Psi Cor Global Handle is @Knightingale
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Oh yes..... and yup Syn, Stamina comes in well handy now I've resorted to spamming my Healing aura during battle.
It's dead handy and I'd recommend it to all Empaths.
a) you don't need the perma click for Hasten anymore so use it somewhere useful
b) With stamina and a couple of End reds you don't notice the end drain at all.
c) It gives your team a safe haven to run to if they need a heal and you are busy.
d) It sometimes catches teammates you may not have spotted or just happen to be in range. Meaningyou can concentrate on the more problematic people.
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With as little offence as I can put it, but if an Empath - or Rad - starting spamming Heal Aura/Radiant Aura in my team, they'd be gone before you could say "Oooh, green light!" - or I'd leave - and have done so in the past. Spamming auto-hit auras is completely lazy and artless, not to mention annoying, in my eyes and the eyes of the players I team with. To each their own, but the best Empaths I've teamed with have been great spot-healers - and have never had occasion to spam heals, prior to or after ED.
Rant over.
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I get what Imag means about us 'earning' our XP more now.
There were times back in the good 'ole days that I really felt like I wasn't bringing anything to the team, the tanks kick butt, and nobody was really getting hit...and thanks to my team build (read: minimal attacks) I had nothing to do but buff...and sometimes I really wondered if they would even notice if I stopped buffing (I didn't...I needed *something* to do). Although in this case it may have been more down to just being with a great team (Silence, Spad, Jane-Gogetter, Kirigirsu, Johnny Fiasco and others) we teamed together alot and we worked very well together. Then we did the Shard TF's...yay! 
But now, I have to work alot harder, heck, sometimes I don't even get time to buff properly!
Oh, and Hero Builder agrees with the 13% figure.
But personally...I enjoy Empath more now than I have in a long while...long live ED! 
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Oh yes..... and yup Syn, Stamina comes in well handy now I've resorted to spamming my Healing aura during battle.
It's dead handy and I'd recommend it to all Empaths.
a) you don't need the perma click for Hasten anymore so use it somewhere useful
b) With stamina and a couple of End reds you don't notice the end drain at all.
c) It gives your team a safe haven to run to if they need a heal and you are busy.
d) It sometimes catches teammates you may not have spotted or just happen to be in range. Meaningyou can concentrate on the more problematic people.
Best thing I ever did!
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With as little offence as I can put it, but if an Empath - or Rad - starting spamming Heal Aura/Radiant Aura in my team, they'd be gone before you could say "Oooh, green light!" - or I'd leave - and have done so in the past. Spamming auto-hit auras is completely lazy and artless, not to mention annoying, in my eyes and the eyes of the players I team with. To each their own, but the best Empaths I've teamed with have been great spot-healers - and have never had occasion to spam heals, prior to or after ED.
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Promise I didn't take offense Syn, but I had to respond. 
You seem to be implying that by spamming Healing Aura all the time, that an Emapth then neglects to do spot healing. That's just not true.
Spamming Healing Aura is not lazy in the same way having Perma Hasten auto activate wasn't lazy.
It was my choice. Now I don't need Perma Hasten anymore I have the auto-activate toggle free to use on another powerset. The only one in the Empaths skill set that really lends itself well to this is Aura. Maybe it is a little lazy to take this out of my hands, but Aura is your least effective power as an Empath anyhow. It's heal isn't particularly strong and it's only useful to people within range of it's radius, which isn't that far.
(Saying that, Heal aura pulled or fat out of the fire a few times last night if I use it while boosted with Power Build up. In those instances it's a good way to heal alot of points to alot of your team in one go.)
I'd respectfully suggest that if you prefer running with an Empath that doesn't at least consider that trick then YOU are the one losing out.
By putting Aura on Spam you get all the benefits I listed in the previous post. The MOST important being that it allows ME the extra time, freedom and flexibility to target my heals and my buffs more often and more thoughtfully. How can that NOT make me better at my job on a team ? How can that not make my targetting better ?? As you put it, I can now concentrate on the 'artful' healing and buffing rather than the unartful Aura.
I think, and I think most other Empaths would agree, that the best tool in my arsenal is Heal Other and this is the tool I use most of the time. Remember also that having Aura on Auto-Activate doesn't provide constant spam, it queues the power for activation just like you clicking the button yourself. So if I'm in the middle of Healing a teammate, and then I have CM queued already it'll just wait. Just means it's one less thing I have to think about during a heated battle and hence makes me a more efficient and better healer as I can concentrate on the things that are really more important. i.e. Heal Other and buffing with CM, Fort and AB.
Personally I'm not sure what you find annoying about them ?! *shrug* Is it the animation ?? The noise ??
Aura's are kinda artless anyhow. They are a power based on either luck (getting everyone in your radius) or you need to pre-warn everyone you are about to drop it (a la RA). Generally I find Heal Aura pretty useless because of the lack of target option. However it can play a vital role in keeping a teammate alive if he/she is badly hurt and knows he just needs to retreat near you and an Aura will trigger momentarily.
I guess we can agree to disagree on this,
Frankly in my opinion if you only team with Empaths who don't consider this trick you are just making life difficult for yourself and the Empath in question as he/she now has an extra item on their healing agenda to think about on top of healing, buffing and rezzing you.
And to be fair I don't think most people even notice that Heal Aura is on Auto. Ask Lodestar. We did a TF last night, the Shadow Shard one and in all the battles last night I spammed Heal Aura, nobody complained once. I don't think they even noticed. How about it Lodestar ??
Fair enough Syn, I can see your point if you team with an Empath or Rad Defender who just stands there and spams. Then yes, that is lazy, they aren't doing their job properly and yes they should get kicked from the team. But what I'm talking about is using it as another tool in your arsenal. Hell if I did that on any team I'd EXPECT to be booted!!!
It's like anything in life. If you can automate a part of a task to make you more efficent then you can increase productivity, which is what I'm doing here. IMHO Empaths that don't consider using this trick (and it may not work for everyone I'll admit) then they aren't exploring ways to maximise their potential.
TBH it's a tactic that I discovered by accident. I was in a team and nipping off for a Bio. Team was doing quite well and as an Empath I was quite quiet. So I put myself on follow to one of the blasters and started the Spam. Telling them, I'd be two mins and if they needed a heal just run close to me.
When I got back two mins later the team were in battle so I just took the controls and carried on with the targetted heals and the buffs, but forgot to turn off the spam aura. I just found it very very useful as it took one of the more mundane tasks out of my hands and allowed me to concentrate elsewhere on making sure people had CM and Fort. Since then it's a tactic I use alot.
Blueside Level 50's.... Knightingale (Def), Rogue Elevenex (Blast), Lady Rogue (Scrap), Mr Infinity (Tank), Miss Infinity (Troller), Knight.Shade (WS), Knight.Bringer (PB)
Redside Level 50's... Colonel Rogue (Brute), Sergeant Domino (Stalk), F411-OUT (Dom)
Next Project: Psiryn Psi/Psi Cor Global Handle is @Knightingale
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I get what Imag means about us 'earning' our XP more now.
There were times back in the good 'ole days that I really felt like I wasn't bringing anything to the team, the tanks kick butt, and nobody was really getting hit...and thanks to my team build (read: minimal attacks) I had nothing to do but buff...and sometimes I really wondered if they would even notice if I stopped buffing (I didn't...I needed *something* to do). Although in this case it may have been more down to just being with a great team (Silence, Spad, Jane-Gogetter, Kirigirsu, Johnny Fiasco and others) we teamed together alot and we worked very well together. Then we did the Shard TF's...yay!
But now, I have to work alot harder, heck, sometimes I don't even get time to buff properly!
Oh, and Hero Builder agrees with the 13% figure.
But personally...I enjoy Empath more now than I have in a long while...long live ED!
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Absolutley agree with what is said here.
I was considerably lucky during my I4 days. I mostly teamed with a bunch of regulars who let us all perform our roles well. I never felt like a spare part with them, always felt like a valuable member of the team, and we seemed to get ourselves into all kinds of scrapes. Our team had two Empaths, myself and Black Medic and our regular team had enough going on to keep both of us regulars on the Healer Board for a few months. Understand this was a fabulous team, we could have blitzed most missions on the strength of our tanks (Honsou, Kakarok and Catiene Winters). But it was also a very very generous team that allowed everyone to play their role. These people are great friends and we still have a laugh on TS and team up now.
However. Pick up teams were different as a rule and there were times when I did feel a bit of a make-weight. Ocassionally chucking AB or Fort or CM as needed. There were times when I wondered if they'd even miss me if I was to go AFK for a long period.
I also agree with Empath in that I find Gale ALOT of fun to play now, kind of a shame I've already reached 50 and she's semi-retired.
Please don't anyone mistake our discussion here about how hard or not we were hit as a complaint about it. I DO actually prefer to play Gale now that she has more to do. All we were trying to say in previous posts is that ED hit us pretty hard too.
It's just that we Empaths adjust better than most archetypes and complain less. hehe!
Also Syn, the point Empath makes at the bottom of her post....
"heck, sometimes I don't even get time to buff properly!"
....is EXACTLY the reason I now use the auto activate on my Aura. It allows me that axtra time to do all the buffing etc.
It may not be for all Empath, some may not notice a difference, some may find they burn through their endurance too fast, some may just not like it. It's a tool like any other, and I have just found it makes my life that little bit easier.
Blueside Level 50's.... Knightingale (Def), Rogue Elevenex (Blast), Lady Rogue (Scrap), Mr Infinity (Tank), Miss Infinity (Troller), Knight.Shade (WS), Knight.Bringer (PB)
Redside Level 50's... Colonel Rogue (Brute), Sergeant Domino (Stalk), F411-OUT (Dom)
Next Project: Psiryn Psi/Psi Cor Global Handle is @Knightingale
Yeah, i agree with the above. I just wanted to re-iterate that this isn't meant to be an anti ED thread, I was just wondering what people's views were now we've had some time to consider the bigger picture. (though I am still all for increasing the basic healing level of healing aura )
Defiant
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Venture - Emp/En Defender
Seph - Kat/SR Scrapper
Blizzard - Ice/Storm Controller
Legionelosis - Rad/Rad Defender
I must admit that I find a renewal pleasure to play my high-lvl empath since ED.
It really reminds me those days in the 20's-early 30's when all the team was depending on me, with my not SO-slotted heals, buffs and auras.
I still can handle a 8-men-team on purple mission as the only defender and that's fine. I love this feeling as an empath like playing a piano track, doing 5 things in the same time, adjusting your buffs, overthinking very fast who must be the heal priority, etc...
I really get bored with my Empath when he was around 40's before ED, as I was only a buff bot (a good one, but still a bot). I was annoying myself to a point that I decided to never make him achieve his 50.
Nowadays, I have this exciting feeling of being THE guardian of the team back, and I'm really loving it.
But one major drawback of ED for me concerns Adrenalin Boost. Before, it was a gift I granted to a good player in the team, or cycling between every mate or making a bad-built hero powerful, or giving a fire controller tons and tons of pets. Now it's only a situational power, I tend to wait for the blaster to launch his nova or the tank/scrapper to run out of endurance before tossing it on them. And my poor Fortitude. With 3 recharge reductions on it + hasten 3 slotted, I can keep it perma on 3 people + a fourth for 20 seconds. Before that, it was 6 people on a 8-men team and it creates now some jealousy between my mates.
And last but not least, with my last respec, I dropped Recall Friend for Regeneration aura. I didn't take this power until now, because I have read everywhere it was a bad one. But some friends advised me to take it for PvP, making nearly everyone in the team feeling like a little regen scrapper. What a bad idea ! I find this power completely useless (even with 3 Health in it). If the HP of a mate goes below 60 %, my reflex is to launch heal other. I'm way too concerned to wait for the regen to take place.
As far as the whole healing aura thing, I'm horribly annoyed by it being on auto myself - and yes, it IS the noise and animation, which in an already busy battlefield just results in extra graphics which can make things a mess for those of us with not-so-great graphics cards. Worse by far are the new Thermal Corruptor graphics - I love them, but when someone has that on auto, combined with new maps like the Arachnos lab, and MM pets... doesn't seem to matter HOW low I turn my settings anymore. >_< But back on topic...
Part of the reason I've never liked using heal aura on auto myself, aside from not wanting green glowyness around me every few seconds, is that the last thing I want to happen is need to fire off a life-or-death heal, only to find I'm mid-way through a heal aura, and can't do it. Also, I tend not to be close enough to most people on the team for it to make a difference. That might be more to do with who I team with, but it's very rare that I'm on a team with a number of squishies standing together. More often than not, I'd only be hitting myself with that aura... big waste, in my eyes, especially since I don't have Stamina, and I have nothing in my build I'd drop to get it. Also, I tend to use even my aura to spot-heal, by rushing into the fight, dropping it on whoever needs it, then getting away. (I use three-slotted hover, and often stay just above the fight for this purpose.) It works as a nice interim heal if I've had to use heal other and AP already, or the situation isn't safe enough to use AP. I'd much rather, since I use it in such a manner, choose when it goes off, rather than needing to rush down in time for it to auto-fire, or risk not having it ready at a crucial moment.
Sure, it's hectic doing all that and keeping everyone buffed, but I've never had an issue doing so. Probably helps that I don't attack at all.
im a bit like cybercel with heal aura except i use superspeed i can be in and out long before the heals actually happen (fly by healing type thing), and i only need to press "w" and "3" and then "s" to do it or just pass by. There is no need to be sat in the middle of a group getting aoe'd or coned ever unless the your tanker has herded into a confined space in which i case i say thats very wrong. Another thing is what happens if it goes of when the team doesnt need it and then suddenly they do? You have to wait for it to recharge still you could lose anyone. I'd much rather move my finger the 1 centremetre across the keyboard and use it or even bind caps lock to set it off with my little finger.
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
Understood Cybercel and I agree somewhat. However....
Firstly even if it weren't on spam I'd be dropping Heal Aura whenever I could. I've found that it makes no real difference to the amount of times I use it, just means I don't have to think about it. And I do try and time the heals to go off when I'm in an appropriate spot so they aren't wasted heal. (see my fourthly further down)
Secondly: As for it interrupting a life or death heal. Hasn't happened yet. Generally the Heal Aura has a relatively short activation time and very often (cause I'm a front line healer) it helps the target I would have targetted anyhow. I suppose it could happen, but not in my experience thus far.
Thirdly, I have stamina. Took it late in my respec though, due to me not really needing it. But I thought frankly that having it was the responsible thing to do as a healer cause I NEVER want to run out of End in a battle. And thus far I don't think I ever have. (Bar those bloody Malta Sappers!!!)
Fourthly, I have a different way of doing my Empathing to you I guess. Both equally valid. I do sometimes use hover, especially to avoid knockback affects and caltrops etc, but found it a bit cumbersome and slow without slotting. So I instead use SS to dash in and out to heal players. But mostly I stand right slap bang in the middle of the combat zone. I took Power Mastery as my Epic and heavily slotted Temp Invuln. I can pretty much stand in the thick of the action with the team without much harm coming to me. Dead handy. Hence my spammed aura generally hits the whole party unless someone has wandered off.
Fifth, like most empaths I am a Heal and Buff only kinda defender. Up until respec Gale had only 3 offensive powers and only one of those had any slots in it,and that was Psychic Wail which was my 'Last Resort' power. If my team is in really desperate streets and I can't keep the heals up then I'd trigger it. What it doesn't kill it stuns and often gives the team valuable recovery time.
Again, I re-iterate. I'm not an offender-defender. I do spot heal. I do enjoy Gale under ED. Yes it's Frantic, but it's fun.
What I'm stating here is my hints and tips for healing. They aren't for everyone. Not all Empath builds are the same. If you are the kind of empath who sits on the outskirts of a fight and target heals or zips in and out to perform you Healing Aura, then spamming the Aura probably isn't a good tactic for you. you're right, it would be a waste.
I'm willing to try new tactics. I'm willing to experiment. I've just found it to be an extremely useful tactic and all the teams I've teamed with since doing it haven't even noticed.
If Lodestar is online maybe he can comment, I did it during the TF yesterday for about 8 hrs and no-one said a word. *shrug*
Blueside Level 50's.... Knightingale (Def), Rogue Elevenex (Blast), Lady Rogue (Scrap), Mr Infinity (Tank), Miss Infinity (Troller), Knight.Shade (WS), Knight.Bringer (PB)
Redside Level 50's... Colonel Rogue (Brute), Sergeant Domino (Stalk), F411-OUT (Dom)
Next Project: Psiryn Psi/Psi Cor Global Handle is @Knightingale
Ah so now using heal aura is considered bad?
I dont care what anyone else thinks but I will activate any power I think is needed,when ever I think.
Situations where I "spam" Healing aura:
1: when my computer freezes or the server lags (just in case).
2: All the bloody time in a battle, it might be cack at healing but those extra few hit points might help keep someone alive till I can hit them with heal other.
3:After a battle to make sure everyone is 100% healthy,and to heal any lingering DOT effects that might have been inflicted.
4: when I am injured. (I got accused of spamm healing as I kept using HA to keep me alive,everyone else was fine but things were hitting me.).
spam healing..yeah its as annoying as tankers going around with their armour up all the time
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Since ED the main diffs I have noticed are:
On missions I prefer to have another defender with healing capabilities, so we can cover the battle line effectivly. I like to sit behind the front line heroes where my HA can be used..And where I can be sure I will allways have Line of sight to my patients.
my damage powers do suck now,but they can help draw the enemy away from the blasters/support heroes long enough for them to frag the enemy/move into a better attack pos.
I cant comment on any of the buff powers as I have not taken them ( I respeced out clear mind for proton volly).
Never used Healing aura on auto with Kah and I guess i wont be with micro Kah.Guess it's just down to personal playing style. Kah was never one for staying back she used to like tucking herself in behind the Tanks and Scrappers not too close to be out of range for the blasters and controllers to benefit from her healing aura.
Think it was SmokingDemon who called me a pre-emptive healer and in someways I think he was right about Kah. Its weird but some of the time when playing Kah I would find myself already clicking my heals just as someone took a large amount of damage. I cant say its because I have good reflexes (gettin on in years now ), maybe its more like an intuitive sense I have every now and then.
Anyways enough of that, seemed to have rambled there abit and forgot what it was I was going to say 
Hold on..you can auto powers?
Well thats what they are on about with the Healing Aura spamming setting it to auto by pressing Ctrl Healing Aura.
well i dunno how many empaths have respec on PvP builds but TG is now fully respeced in a PvP team build. Performing the maximum regarding Empathy. I enjoy the empathy set now even more despite the fact i still miss occasionally the glorious teams that we used to blast around Paragon (SL,EK,Dark Steel,Kianna,Malachi,Aria,FW,Ob) still now is much more fun and Empathy for me is even more adrenaline rush. Btw i not know how many out there have this but i think i got the fastest rez and cm in Paragon lol 3 slots recharge ftw!!!
lol, if i was into pvp id do the same tg... any chance you can post your build up? I'd like to have a look at it.
Defiant
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Venture - Emp/En Defender
Seph - Kat/SR Scrapper
Blizzard - Ice/Storm Controller
Legionelosis - Rad/Rad Defender
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well i dunno how many empaths have respec on PvP builds but TG is now fully respeced in a PvP team build. Performing the maximum regarding Empathy. I enjoy the empathy set now even more despite the fact i still miss occasionally the glorious teams that we used to blast around Paragon (SL,EK,Dark Steel,Kianna,Malachi,Aria,FW,Ob) still now is much more fun and Empathy for me is even more adrenaline rush. Btw i not know how many out there have this but i think i got the fastest rez and cm in Paragon lol 3 slots recharge ftw!!!
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Sorry TG, I'll take your three slots and raise you to Six Slotted Recharge Rez and CM. All Plus-Plussed and with Hasten on. Reckon I might be a smidge faster on the draw. LMAO!!
(Kidding everyone by the way before we start getting into the merits or demerits of 6 slotting post-ED. My CM and Rez are 3 slotted too. Phew, think I headed that argument off at the pass! )
Blueside Level 50's.... Knightingale (Def), Rogue Elevenex (Blast), Lady Rogue (Scrap), Mr Infinity (Tank), Miss Infinity (Troller), Knight.Shade (WS), Knight.Bringer (PB)
Redside Level 50's... Colonel Rogue (Brute), Sergeant Domino (Stalk), F411-OUT (Dom)
Next Project: Psiryn Psi/Psi Cor Global Handle is @Knightingale
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Never used Healing aura on auto with Kah and I guess i wont be with micro Kah.Guess it's just down to personal playing style.
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Absolutely.
I've been around the block, playing since feb with various alts and I've seen alot of playing styles, especially from Empaths.
I spent alot of time conversing and looking at other players builds. Players like Kathaan, Becky the Body and Flush. I teamed up ALOT with Black Medic as we were part of the same group of friends who played together alot and we practically dinged 50 together. All the way there we discussed what we were gonna take as new powers, how we were gonna slot them etc.
By the time we got to 50 we were both very different Empaths. Neither more valid than the other, just different. We'd tailored our Empaths to suit our playing styles.
As I said earlier my stated preference for area of operation was on the frontline with the Tankers and the Scrappers, always however making sure my HO could hit the Controllers and Blasters. A combination of Hover and Temp Invuln made sure that I could do this with very little risk.
BM (and I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong) was the type of Empath who would sit further back with the Blasters and Controllers and heal the Scrappers and Tankers from a distance. He also specced a few more offensive powers than me if I recall and acted often as an Empath/blaster.
As a team we worked brilliantly together and I think our team benefitted from our relationship. I rate BM as a top class Empath and there's not many people I'd rather have covering my back in a fight.
Personally I'd never be as arrogant as to say my way is better than anyone elses. We all play differently. I like front line healing, others prefer to sit at the back. I use keybinds, others prefer the mouse.
It's like the travel power argument, people always trying to make a decision on which one is BEST. But best to the individual is a personal concept. I happen to prefer Flight as my travel power, but I know alot of people who will vehemently argue for SJ or TP. I just prefer Flight. My choice and I've yet to find a compelling argument in my own head to change away from it's flexibility.
I'm sure some people would look at Gale's build and wonder why on earth I've taken particular powers. just as I sometimes look at other people. I personally can't understand why an Empath wouldn't take CM or TP Friend, I find them utterly invaluable. But if someone is playing an Empath and can do a good job without them then that's their perogative.
I personally find a fascination in bringing up someones info the minute I'm teamed with them to look at how they've built their Alt. I like to see the differences in how they've been built to any Alt I might have that's similar.
Sometimes I spec powers out for really bizarre reasons. For instance I got rid of the Crippling Axe Kick on my scrapper simply because the animation bugged the hell out of me.
Brother and Sisters of Paragon, I just think we should come together and embrace each others differences instead of berating them because we'd do something different.
After all that's why the game gives us so many choices. So we can diversify.
So like the Vulcans, let us celebrate Infinite Diversity through Infinite Combination.
As they say on Vigilence..... Vive la Differance!!! (or something like that, I don't speak french!)
Blueside Level 50's.... Knightingale (Def), Rogue Elevenex (Blast), Lady Rogue (Scrap), Mr Infinity (Tank), Miss Infinity (Troller), Knight.Shade (WS), Knight.Bringer (PB)
Redside Level 50's... Colonel Rogue (Brute), Sergeant Domino (Stalk), F411-OUT (Dom)
Next Project: Psiryn Psi/Psi Cor Global Handle is @Knightingale
|Just to stick my oar in here Im well into my new empathy job. Yeah I know that I just restarted but that means I have had two empaths to levels 23 and 25. I still have my level 25 and my new one will replace.
On my first empath I was learning the ropes but I seemed to be doing well and got compliments. I found though that empathy was contested more than any other build. And more interfereance from people who did not even have empaths piped up. Somw of it was valid and when I restarted I took the advice most suited to me and my play style.
With ED Im having to change again just as I got used to it but never mind. I still stick by my convictions on not choosing AP for example. Yet I have seen it used well its a power I wont take. Also I would love to take TP friend for the reasons Gale mentions. But I cant see a way to fit it in unless TP is my travel power. And then I would need to fit hover. In any case I dont like TP I cant get along with it.
As for auto heal I personally dont do it. I have had to spam it just to keep people alive and teams have not complained. But I like to choose when to spam buffs and heals and when not as to having it on auto. Again my take on it but having done a dreaded shard tf with Gale on sunday I had no issue with auto heal. It worked for Knightie and it kept us alive. Difference is one autos it and me I trigger the spam manually and then stop when not needed. I have a pc thats getting on now and in need of upgrade but I cant say lots of green on screen concerns me. Maybe it does some but I am not peaved by it. And I dont see it as a clumsy tactic either. Certainly not since EDs heal rate drop. Id go as far as to say that its kinda pick nitting if you object to auto heal really. I get more lag with a Warshade and Dark armour near me than Auto heal.
But as I said at the start each to their own. You may be more tolerant to DA and WS than auto heal as you feel Auto heal is an active choice I suppose but I accept peoples styles and sometimes you gel so well with someones play that you get treat. Others it just gets the misssions done. Thats the game.
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Again my take on it but having done a dreaded shard tf with Gale on sunday I had no issue with auto heal. It worked for Knightie and it kept us alive.
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Thanx Lode. Can I ask if you or the rest of the team even noticed I had it on auto ??
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Difference is one autos it and me I trigger the spam manually and then stop when not needed.
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Actually this is a really meaningful point. I don't spam all the time. I generally only ever trigger the Auto anytime the going gets frantic and I need to. Takes one extra thing off my busy buys plate. In minor skirmishes and between battles when there is no need for it, I don't do it.
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But as I said at the start each to their own. You may be more tolerant to DA and WS than auto heal as you feel Auto heal is an active choice I suppose but I accept peoples styles and sometimes you gel so well with someones play that you get treat. Others it just gets the misssions done. Thats the game.
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Hear hear!! That's the point I very much tried to get across in my last post. Just cause someone does something different doesn't mean it's wrong. All it is is play styles and everyone plays differently.
Blueside Level 50's.... Knightingale (Def), Rogue Elevenex (Blast), Lady Rogue (Scrap), Mr Infinity (Tank), Miss Infinity (Troller), Knight.Shade (WS), Knight.Bringer (PB)
Redside Level 50's... Colonel Rogue (Brute), Sergeant Domino (Stalk), F411-OUT (Dom)
Next Project: Psiryn Psi/Psi Cor Global Handle is @Knightingale
Actually I didnt because for one you clearly turned it off when we were done, and I would have thought an empath would ned to spam in those situations I know I would. Maybe I need to bind it myself. Ill see how it goes first.
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I did some random testing with the help of different empaths, and the base value of healing aura is 13%.
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The figures I was provided with came out at 11%, but did involve accolades, which may or may not be included in the calculation.