Our 15 man group doesn't want a huge expensive base.
I just want something to do with all the salvage piled in one corner.
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Our 15 man group doesn't want a huge expensive base.
I just want something to do with all the salvage piled in one corner.
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You can pile it in a corner??? 
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Our 15 man group doesn't want a huge expensive base.
I just want something to do with all the salvage piled in one corner.
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You can pile it in a corner???
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That's what my mum does with hers. 
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Our 15 man group doesn't want a huge expensive base.
I just want something to do with all the salvage piled in one corner.
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Nothing in the game prevents you from getting to that point. It's simply a matter of time.
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Our 15 man group doesn't want a huge expensive base.
I just want something to do with all the salvage piled in one corner.
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You can pile it in a corner???
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That's what my mum does with hers.
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Hmmm... now to designate a corner for salvage pileage..
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Our 15 man group doesn't want a huge expensive base.
I just want something to do with all the salvage piled in one corner.
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Nothing in the game prevents you from getting to that point. It's simply a matter of time.
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We calculate around a year for our small SG to get everything it wants. Good point well made...
Well my SG has about 5-7 active members we're now functional in the way of power and control, we've just built our workshop and need another 25k before we can start to use salvage. It makes me laugh when I see people complaining it's too hard to get prestige, perhaps if you weren't here complaining about it you'd be able to make the base you want.
Also we don't farm prestige, at level 24 I get 269 prestige I believe per mission completion, 10 prestige per even level mob. This all begins to mount up when someone else is going through with you
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Our 15 man group doesn't want a huge expensive base.
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Nothing in the game prevents you from getting to that point. It's simply a matter of time.
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Just a year playing our level 30-40's. Can you see a small problem there?
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It makes me laugh when I see people complaining it's too hard to get prestige, perhaps if you weren't here complaining about it you'd be able to make the base you want.
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Thats a load of [censored]. Tons of people have very very little time to game, myself included. Today I went on for two hours, which is the most I've had time to play for oh, two months? So it's going to take a LONG time for casual players to even get a funtional (control, power, workbench) base.
(I say functional because everyone get's salvage in supergroup mode, yet they have nothing to do with it...)
Probably going off subject...
But why not make sg bases places where we can store enhancements, influence and salvage? Those items in storage are onlyaccessible by the people who them in there, so you wouldn't have the problem of other members "accidently" taking your stuff. Also make it so that you can trade for an someone's item when they're not there.
Probably I should've put this in suggestions...but meh...it's here now. 
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It makes me laugh when I see people complaining it's too hard to get prestige, perhaps if you weren't here complaining about it you'd be able to make the base you want.
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Thats a load of [censored]. Tons of people have very very little time to game, myself included. Today I went on for two hours, which is the most I've had time to play for oh, two months? So it's going to take a LONG time for casual players to even get a funtional (control, power, workbench) base.
(I say functional because everyone get's salvage in supergroup mode, yet they have nothing to do with it...)
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Also forgetting the pretty hefty rent, that the solo/smallgroupers would have to overcome to get the same base as the big groups. For the big groups the gathering of the additional prestige isnt that much of an issue.
I've been playing for an hour or two a day recently. Myself and a friend usually get 4-5 missions done together during that time. That's 520 prestige per mission, exluding what we get from mobs. 520 x 5 = 2600 now lets say there's about 30 mobs in each of those giving 10 prestige each, since mob prestige is shared into equal amounts that's 300 prestige per mission from them, that's 1500 from 5 missions. Making 3600 a day from 2 people playing for an hour.
Now imagine there are people that play more than I do, maybe not earning as much but are on longer so get the same amount. 3600 x 3 = 10800. 10k prestige a day from a couple of people. Granted that's usually the minimum we make. We follow arcs and stories and have a good time. We've never once concentrated on the prestige. So I don't see how it isn't possible to get a functional base in a short time.
i agree that geting a functional base is harder than most of us tink it should i have a very large sg over 60 members about 20 that are active every day and even we have problems getting prestige some times
also being able to use your selvag osnt help a thing as once you make an item from your refined salvage you then need to pay large amounts of prestige to place the items in your base and get the use out of them so basicly you are paying twice once with your figght to gain the salvage in the first place then again to place the item you made yourself surely im not the only person thinks thats messed up
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We calculate around a year for our small SG to get everything it wants. Good point well made...
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Since you didn't post your calculations I can't comment on them specifically, but I suspect they're rubbish.
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Your small SG is made up of casual gamers who player only a few hours a week and you just don't see why you can't have a big base with all the bells and whistles NOW.
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Just a year playing our level 30-40's. Can you see a small problem there?
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You maths is rubbish? In a year, based on the last three weeks, I'd collect somewhere in the order of 10-15 million prestige (that's including taking time to earn inf as well). How big a base are you wanting?!?
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We calculate around a year for our small SG to get everything it wants. Good point well made...
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Since you didn't post your calculations I can't comment on them specifically, but I suspect they're rubbish.
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Your small SG is made up of casual gamers who player only a few hours a week and you just don't see why you can't have a big base with all the bells and whistles NOW.
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Innigo, can you quickly check over the majority of small SG posts and check that we just want a SMALL functional base; of lowest quality and that will take us 6 months to a year; and that's without focussing on the fact that most of are 30-40, which means there's only about a month's play left in those characters?
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Thats a load of [censored]. Tons of people have very very little time to game, myself included. Today I went on for two hours, which is the most I've had time to play for oh, two months? So it's going to take a LONG time for casual players to even get a funtional (control, power, workbench) base.
(I say functional because everyone get's salvage in supergroup mode, yet they have nothing to do with it...)
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If you're in a small SG full of casual players then you're not going to get involved in the IoP aspect of the game. But you can build tpers and get the mish computer and go on team TFs.
My relatively small SG has its mission computer now and perhaps by the end of the weekend it'll have a telepad.
Now, almost 2/3s the total prestige for the group has been collected by 3 players. Me being one, my flatmate being another and we don't play THAT much.
So, to everyone that comes on moaning about how they can't have the base they want I suggest they look at the base as they look at the toon. You have to work towards each new base facility they way you have to work for each new power.
If you can't play much you'll lvl slower.
Someone claimed they could only play 5 hours a week, ok, so it'll take over a year to get a toon to 50 and will take months to get a basic operational base.
But let's turn it around about. To the ppl who think prestige requirements are too high. Assume an SG of 10 ppl who play 4-5 hours a week each. How long SHOULD it take to get to the point where they have a functioning workshop?
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i agree that geting a functional base is harder than most of us tink it should i have a very large sg over 60 members about 20 that are active every day and even we have problems getting prestige some times
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I'm a member of a small villain group with 10 or so active players. After less than three weeks, we have a base with medbay, teleporters and basic crafting. We can't do raids or advanced crafting yet, but the base is certainly functional. Getting there was a lot easier than I thought it would be.
Functional? I'd be upset if it took me more than about a week with that.
Defensible? A month
Raidworthy? Three
Not really gonna help those people with gimped tanks etc. that are languishing at 30 though is it?
And for level 50's doing Trophy stealing...what exactly are you gonna use those Trophies on?
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Innigo, can you quickly check over the majority of small SG posts and check that we just want a SMALL functional base; of lowest quality and that will take us 6 months to a year; and that's without focussing on the fact that most of are 30-40, which means there's only about a month's play left in those characters?
Thanks.
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I honestly have no idea what the issue is. I've earned 117k prestige since this all started. When it did I was lvl38. I should hit 41 tonight. Multiply that by 6, add some alts for the bonus and you'd be at the point where you'd have power, control and a workshop and have your eye on that mission computer.
That's in under 3 lvls. So what's the problem?
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You maths is rubbish? In a year, based on the last three weeks, I'd collect somewhere in the order of 10-15 million prestige (that's including taking time to earn inf as well). How big a base are you wanting?!?
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I was more thinking that in a year we'd be level 60/80's...
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I honestly have no idea what the issue is. I've earned 117k prestige since this all started. When it did I was lvl38. I should hit 41 tonight. Multiply that by 6, add some alts for the bonus and you'd be at the point where you'd have power, control and a workshop and have your eye on that mission computer.
That's in under 3 lvls. So what's the problem?
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Multiply by 6 and you'll be level 59....
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I was more thinking that in a year we'd be level 60/80's...
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Ah, I see. You can't start alts?
But see my other post about prestige/level. I think you're calcs are way off.
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've earned 117k prestige since this all started. When it did I was lvl38. I should hit 41 tonight. Multiply that by 6, add some alts for the bonus and you'd be at the point where you'd have power, control and a workshop and have your eye on that mission computer.
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That sounds about right with the alt padding. 117k in three levels, very nice. Of course, you defeat a lot more mobs per level than low level characters. Playing in COV, I've earned about 100k from level 1-24.
No offense, but I think you are taking this a bit seriously. I play the game in a few different styles and all seem to work fine for me. I am a leadre of The Spirits and August Light which has 4 SGs altogether because of the amount of members (50s SG, Alt Sg, CoV Sg and main SG). The bases for all 4 SGs are coming along nicely as people are always playing different characters and there is never a moment when at least 2 Sgs haven't got an active player or 2.
If I am not in the mood to play with the big SG, the occasionaly I log in as my solo character, which now has his own SG, and a small base that I like to call home. (simple room with bed, living area, desk and some nice deco.).
Then if I do not wish to play as either of these I have a character that is in a medium size SG (bout 20-30 members) that has a base coming along nicely with power and control now, and Workbench to follow shortly.
I have been playing for about 7 months now, and had the base option been available from the start I am confident I would have seen most of the base content by now, even without being in a massive SG.
The fact is that the options are there for all, if you want to see or play with all the more expensive bases then get an alt into a big SG (send J Dogg or J Shade a /tell and you can join ours). Think about it, would you expect a group of 5 people to have a huge expensive base within a month or so? Personally myself and most other members of my SGs are pleased with the base feature. I feel it has added a lot to the social side of the game as our SG is always talking over coalition about base designs, funny stuff in the base, and now we have an SG mission computer that brings even more to the game. Next we're gonna start raiding and looting your bases, so watch out
That is just my opinion and everyone is gonna have different views on everything. People don't like change and there are sooo many people out there that just love to moan rather than actually get on and enjoy what they can. If you no longer enjoy the game because you can't have a massive base in a few weeks, or because you refuse to join a large SG and see the more expensive stuff, then why did you enjoy the game pre-I6?
I would like to pat the Devs on the back for all the hard work and effort they have put into the game since I have been playing. I have never come across any major bugs, and any minor ones have been dealt with swiftly. The game content just keeps growing which is the main reason I am still playing. If it wasn't for I5 and I6 I would probably have moved on to another game by now.
The devs are going to get abuse no matter what they do, if they change it so smaller SGs can build huge bases easily then people will abuse it, and others will moan cos they put in loads of hours to get so much prestige when someone else plays for 2 hours a week and earns the same etc etc.
One last comment is that if you only play 5 hours a week I would suggest buying a gameboy or something. Better value for money, I personally wouldn't pay that much money and play so little, especially if I was a broke student again..