I think Roleplaying in CoV is going to be team and misison-based rather than the "meeting-place" system we have for CoH. Also, not *every* villain wants to conquer the world etc. hence working in a group is a viable concept.
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I think Roleplaying in CoV is going to be team and misison-based rather than the "meeting-place" system we have for CoH. Also, not *every* villain wants to conquer the world etc. hence working in a group is a viable concept.
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Totally agree.
So far I've managed to work out 3 (well, in my opinion at any rate 
) fleshed out, villainous characters. Only one would really be someone that couldn't operate in a social situation with others, and that's mostly because he's psychotic.
Just because GG wouldn't work in it's current format in CoV, doesn't mean there can be no role-play.
I've got what's looking like a fairly good dynamic going with another player in a duo. We've RP'ed most of it from Breakout and it's gone fairly well so far.
My character might not do so well in a more social setting, but the other character would fit in fine I think.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Come visit Midnight Rose and she'll tell you a tale or two from her days as a Skull and a member of the Tsoo. 
The Concord are an RP group and I have hooked up with em once or twice ( )
We don't all sit round swapping stories of how gross/psychotic etc we are - We've all got pretty good back stories and we don;t unleash em all in the first five minutes either.
I have enjoyed RP so much more since becoming Rose that I am now RPing in Paragon - Captain Caterwaul and Netherlight are always happy to lend a hand in a bad situation
For the record, FFM and I both have villains in The Concord. Not that I've played Lilith in weeks. Maybe if I'd actually got a hero to level 50 I'd be more excited by the prospect of playing a villain.
Not really sure that's true though.
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As for RPing villains in general: I can see that becoming a rather boring affair where various toons sit around trying to demonstrate how hard/wierd/sick/psychotic they are, which doesn't terribly appeal to me.
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Because the angst, "poor me" and overly-perfect-in-every-way Heroes are any more interesting?
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No, because everyone who's ever tried to actually play a villain character in CoH has spent their time proving how much of a tool they can be while thinking they were doing stunning roleplay.
Is that blunt enough for you?
I'm quite well aware of the potential for roleplay in CoV. I don't happen to think that potential lies heavily in the area of mass meetings because villains are competative and (theoretically) heroes are cooperative. I can see it working much better in individual random RP and in SGs.
Also, I spent last night roleplaying a couple planning a date for Friday night, a hero discussing some strange murders and how to deal with them with other heroes, and (just for the fluff) a rather strange young woman who tends to say just what she thinks because she hasn't really learned not to.
No angst. Not one of the people involved was perfect in any way, and not one of them was going for any form of sympathy vote. They were getting on with their lives.
I know you don't like GG, Eressos. You've said so in the past. if your only argument is that we only ever do angsty rubbish, then please get off your soap box and come down and take a look rather than producing unfounded, spurious, pointless arguments.
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Guys.... Please don't turn this into a slanging match. All you'll do is get wound up and get the thread locked...
I've tried villain RP. Both in a duo with a friend, and with a group similar to GG. The group was a LOT less satisfying than the duo, and neither as enjoyable to me as the GG setting. That said, I also RP in a duo in CoH, and I sometimes enjoy that more than GG.
@FloatingFatMan
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Then why don't you try CoV Roleplay, rather than immediatly dismissing EVERYTHING about it, and passing it off as [censored]?
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Okay, first off, you're quoting something I wrote at the end of October, before CoV was actually live. Go check the posting date if you don't believe me. I could not have tried RPing in CoV, it didn't exist. I was, however, stating my opinion which is what this kind of community board is here for.
For the record, the standard of RP I met in the beta was poor, if not totally unsuitable for a computer game.
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Considering the poor Villain Roleplay was present in City of Heroes, it's a pathetic argument to say the City of Villains Roleplay would be the same; especially given it's an entirely different setting.
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Based on the fact that the same people would be playing both games, indeed that the people trying to play 'bad guys' in CoH would be more likely to move to CoV... no, I don't think it's an invalid argument at all.
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Considering I spent the vast bulk of my time Roleplaying in Galaxy City on the American servers, I know what sort of things the Heroes can come up with.
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So, I'm not allowed to base my arguments on the known player base of the EU servers, but you are allowed to base yours on the known player base of servers in a different culture?
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As far as I know, this is the first time I've discussed anything even remotely approaching GG with you. Either give proof of me saying such things about GG in the past, or stop spouting the "spurious" and "pointless" accusations you complain I'm using.
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Could have sworn it was you, but if I'm wrong, I'll apologise.
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Guys.... Please don't turn this into a slanging match. All you'll do is get wound up and get the thread locked...
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FFM, you wouldn't believe how much trouble I've gotten into trying to be the voice of reason. I really, strongly suggest that you don't stick your nose in.
Eressos, I apologise, you're quite right, I was recalling a 'discussion' in one of the PvP threads and mixing it up with a one in Roleplaying.
Neither of us should be making sweeping generalisations about roleplay in either setting, but I would like to point out that taking something I said in October, replying to it in December, and then treating it as a recent statement that RP in CoV was terrible is a bit off.
When I start playing CoV at all again (I haven't played it since about mid-November) I would like to look in on some of the RP 'events', groups, whatever happening in that server. At no point did I say I did not wish to do so. Currently, however, I'm actually levelling my highest level hero (who got no attention through the whole of I5) and I'd rather do that than play my neglected Stalker.
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When I start playing CoV at all again (I haven't played it since about mid-November) I would like to look in on some of the RP 'events', groups, whatever happening in that server. At no point did I say I did not wish to do so. Currently, however, I'm actually levelling my highest level hero (who got no attention through the whole of I5) and I'd rather do that than play my neglected Stalker.
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Alright, I apologise. I'll PM you a more thorough apology, but for the time being I will remove my posts.
Sorry for hijacking the thread.
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FFM, you wouldn't believe how much trouble I've gotten into trying to be the voice of reason. I really, strongly suggest that you don't stick your nose in.
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Sorry.. Can't help it... it's a big nose! 
Just asking you guys to be nice is all.. It's an interesting conversation and didn't want Rocky's itching trigger finger near it
@FloatingFatMan
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No apology required, mate. We both got a bit overheated.
FFM, I had the same big nose, the one you saw in Brighton was the one after it got cut off on the forums. Beware of thinking your being reasonable, it's amazing how people take it the wrong way.
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Ahh... Well.. Bit of a bull in a china shop sometimes, I am...
Don't you worry about me... I've got a thick skin... Goes well with the thick skull!
@FloatingFatMan
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how Eressos retracted his.
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*Nudges RW and points at Eressos' avatar*
As for Villain RP, I haven't even played the game much, I just can't seem to get into it, so RP'ing is a bit of a long shot.
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Errr... point, maybe. 
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You said eressos retracted his post a few posts up and Zortel was pointing out that Eressos is female. Or at least I think that was the jist... I have been wrong on occasion, not many I grant you, but enough to make me wonder
[edit]I have only just noticed I jumped in on a conversation that most likely ended at 5pm this afternoon.... ignore me[/edit]
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[edit]I have only just noticed I jumped in on a conversation that most likely ended at 5pm this afternoon.... ignore me[/edit]
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Theres no need for you to tell people to ignore you mate we all do it any way.
erm by responding you sorta didn't ignore him you know.
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Toxic Glow: I was tryin' ta teach her not ta refer ta herself in the third person, an it backfired
But he did up his post count by one, much as you did.
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Yes, and you and me aswell
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Ah yes, but my post count is so high it makes no difference.
The only way I get a major advantage in silly posts is if I assassinate The_Question first. 
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Think I'll play one engineer (Robots MM) that wants revenge.
Don't know how I'll incorporate it tho. Something that can go by the flow and if there is something to build around.