I6 empath builds
I guess I will be going for a combination of three dual slotted enhancements to make use of the six slots - not exactly sure how as I am still trying to download the update. I am pleased that I at least have 1 respec saved so my "useless" enhancements can at least be recycled.
I will probably go for 3 heal and 2 recharge and 1 end red in my heals, with the thinking that 2 quicker heals would equal one pre I6 heal.
One thing to remember is that the enhancements changes only really effect SO's and HO's, so with Cherry Aid I'll stick with six slotted heal until SO's become available.
Hmm, reckon I'll still keep Hasten for those times when HPS matters, but I'll probably slot 3xHeal, 2x Recharge and 1x End red. Problem is, pretty much every empath will do that too, so it'll be cookie Cutter builds FTW!
Defiant 50's
Many and varied!
@Miss Chief
I have already reslotted enhancements on my empath.
My heal aura has gone down to 257 Heal from 435 (i think)
3 heals and 3 recharge
Heal other is now 535 from 800ish
3 heals and 3 recharge
RA is now 3 end rec and 3 recharge
Regen is now 3 heals and 3 recharge
AB is 3 recharge and 3 end rec
seems to be ok i can still solo mishes on heroic (just).
I have left hasten as it is, so that in a tight squeeze i can use it and then heal like i used to before I6.
wow! you can solo?!
I haven't been able to do that since...um...ever!
Yeah i can solo but it takes an age so I end up ghosting missions (no stealth or invis) just to get the mish bonus but arrest alls are possible.
Well, after some messing around with Hero Builder I came up with this:
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Exported from Ver: 1.6.4.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder - (http://home.comcast.net/~SherkSilver/index.html)
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Name: empathED
Level: 50
Archetype: Defender
Primary: Empathy
Secondary: Electrical Blast
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01) --> Healing Aura==> Heal(1) Heal(3) Heal(3) Rechg(9) Rechg(9) EndRdx(31)
01) --> Charged Bolts==> Dmg(1) Dmg(37) Dmg(37) Acc(39) Rechg(43)
02) --> Heal Other==> Heal(2) Heal(5) Heal(5) Rechg(11) Rechg(11) EndRdx(31)
04) --> Absorb Pain==> Heal(4) Heal(7) Heal(7) Rechg(23) Rechg(23)
06) --> Resurrect==> Rechg(6)
08) --> Clear Mind==> Range(8)
10) --> Hover==> Fly(10) Fly(40) Fly(40) EndRdx(46)
12) --> Fortitude==> MembrExp(12) MembrExp(13) TH_Buf(13) TH_Buf(15) DefBuf(15) DefBuf(17)
14) --> Fly==> Fly(14) Fly(17) EndRdx(27) Fly(50)
16) --> Hasten==> Rechg(16) Rechg(19) Rechg(19)
18) --> Recovery Aura==> Rechg(18) Rechg(21) Rechg(21) EndRec(27)
20) --> Swift==> Run(20) Run(50)
22) --> Hurdle==> Jump(22) Jump(50)
24) --> Stamina==> EndRec(24) EndRec(25) EndRec(25)
26) --> Assault==> EndRdx(26)
28) --> Tactics==> TH_Buf(28) TH_Buf(29) TH_Buf(29) EndRdx(31)
30) --> Lightning Bolt==> Dmg(30) Dmg(34) Dmg(34) Acc(37) Rechg(43)
32) --> Adrenalin Boost==> Rechg(32) Rechg(33) Rechg(33) Heal(33) Heal(34)
35) --> Zapp==> Dmg(35) Dmg(36) Dmg(36) Acc(36) Rechg(46)
38) --> Ball Lightning==> Dmg(38) Dmg(39) Dmg(39) Acc(40) Rechg(46)
41) --> Thunder Strike==> Dmg(41) Dmg(42) Dmg(42) Acc(42) Rechg(43)
44) --> Charged Armor==> DmgRes(44) DmgRes(45) DmgRes(45) EndRdx(45)
47) --> Power Sink==> EndRec(47) EndRec(48) EndDrn(48) EndDrn(48)
49) --> Group Fly==> Fly(49)
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01) --> Sprint==> Empty(1)
01) --> Brawl==> Empty(1)
01) --> Vigilance==> Empty(1)
02) --> Rest==> Empty(2)
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The amount of slots I had to spare was amazing...I've actually 4 slotted hover! And I have slotted attacks!
I have Leadership, six-slotted Hover, Conserve Power, Hasten, and RA to think about as well as my heals. I'm thinking 3-slot Tactics and Maneuvers with buffs, then stick another two slots of endreds in (and two in Assault). This rather large endurance use reduction should help make up for the loss of endurance from RA and Conserve Power. I may still six-slot them to squeeze out every last second I can though, since I don't have Stamina.
If I do that and it works out that my endurance is doing fine, I'm going to go with three heals/three recharge in Heal Aura and Heal Other, rather than the three heals/2 recharge/one endred that seems to be popular already.
I'm keeping Hasten, just not sure how to slot it yet - I'm going ot play around on test and see if I want those few extra seconds or not. Same with Hover. It seems fairly usable right now, still six-slotted, but I want to see if I can feel the different when it's only three-slotted. AB is in the same position for me right now.
Fort is staying six-slotted, probably three recharge/three def buffs. After chatting with the person I team with most, he said he can hit stuff just fine (especially with Tactics running), and he'd much rather have the def buffs - and after the def nerfs, it might well really help.
I've never slotted Regen Aura, so no change there... unless I end up having some free slots to shove into it. If I do, it'd be three recharges, with any extra going in as heals.
All in all, it's a case of playing around on the test server and doing a few missions to see what I think of things. I can see being an empath on a large team being even more hectic than ever. Duoing still seems easy to the point of boredom - just need to keep an eye on when the buffs are dropping since I'm not used to the new recharge times. I've been meaning to write up an empath guide for some time, but I'm going to wait until after I'm used to the ED changes now.
Empath, what's that MembrExp you've got slotted in Fort?
I've not done a full 50 slotup, but mine looks fairly close to yours. I've got fort Rechg, Rechg, Rechg, ToHit, ToHit, Def and RA Rechg, Rechg, Rechg, Endrec, Endrec, Endrec. I've not got additional slots in AP and my heals are (currently) Heal, Heal, Heal, Rechg, Rechg.
I'm a no-stamina build at the moment, and my only worry is needing to spec out my lesser used attacks to put it in. I didn't make it onto test, so I guess that's what I'm going to spend the next few days finding out.
is everybody dropping stamina then?
Defiant
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Venture - Emp/En Defender
Seph - Kat/SR Scrapper
Blizzard - Ice/Storm Controller
Legionelosis - Rad/Rad Defender
I am not dropping stamina I am going to reduce the number of slots it has
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is everybody dropping stamina then?
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Considering it myself, thought I was being clever with my 3Xheals, 2 Xrecargered, 1Xendreduction .
Going to leave RA, AB and hasten six slotted with recharge reductions cause I really dont need the slots elsewhere and I want minimum downtime from them (especially if I am dropping stamina) and maybe 4-6 slots in conserve power too.
Well, i haven't been able to get on so i can't test any of these, but this is what i'm thinking:
Keep stamina 6-slotted. It might get a reduction, but its still better than 3/4-slotting it.
My heals will probably get 2 recharge and 4 heals as again, its a reduction but a small one. the 4th heal might be swapped for another recharge or an end reduction depending on my endurance and on my power recharge.
RA and Regen i'll keep as they are (3 recharge, 3 end rec/heal)
Atomic Blast i might put 2 acc, 3 dmg, 1 recharge, or 1 acc, 3 dmg, 1 recharge and put the other slot somewhere else.
Not really thought about the rest of them. Fly i'll cut back to 3slots, hasten i'll have a look at, Power Build Up i'll put maybe 3 recharge 1 acc buff, and temp invul i'll keep 6-slotted with damage resistance. I'll have a look at everything, though. Knowing me it'll change when i get round to respecing.
@Willow R
Main Hero:
Willow R (Emp/Rad Defender, lvl 50)
Matakoshi (kat/regen Scrapper, lvl 50)
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Empath, what's that MembrExp you've got slotted in Fort?
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That's a hamidon origin enhancement which is enhancing recharge, tohit and defence buff.
This is my proposed build with added diversification. Yes really - I did chose to slot one disorient duration! The main problem was that I had too many slots - hence slotting of Swift and Health.
rchetype: Defender
Primary Powers - Ranged : Empathy
Secondary Powers - Support : Psychic Blast
01 : Mental Blast acc(01)
01 : Healing Aura hel(01) hel(3) hel(3) recred(5) recred(5) recred(7)
02 : Heal Other hel(02) hel(7) hel(9) recred(9) recred(11) recred(11)
04 : Psionic Lance acc(04) dam(13) dam(13) dam(15) recred(15) recred(17)
06 : Resurrect recred(06) endred(46)
08 : Hasten recred(08) recred(17) recred(19)
10 : Psychic Scream acc(10) dam(19) dam(21) dam(21) recred(23) recred(23)
12 : Fortitude recred(12) recred(25) defbuf(25) defbuf(27) thtbuf(27) thtbuf(29)
14 : Super Speed runspd(14)
16 : Telekinetic Blast acc(16) dam(29) dam(31) dam(31) recred(31) recred(33)
18 : Recovery Aura recred(18) recred(33) recred(33)
20 : Will Domination acc(20) dam(34) dam(34) dam(34) recred(36) recred(36)
22 : Swift runspd(22) runspd(43) runspd(43)
24 : Health hel(24) hel(50)
26 : Stamina endrec(26) endrec(36) endrec(37)
28 : Combat Jumping defbuf(28)
30 : Super Jump jmp(30)
32 : Adrenalin Boost recred(32) recred(37) recred(37) hel(39) hel(39) hel(39)
35 : Clear Mind recred(35)
38 : Psychic Wail acc(38) dam(40) dam(40) disdur(40) recred(42) recred(42)
41 : Power Buildup recred(41) recred(42) recred(43)
44 : Temp Invulnerability damres(44) damres(45) damres(45) endred(45) endred(46) endred(46)
47 : Total Focus acc(47) dam(48) dam(48) dam(48) recred(50) recred(50)
49 : Acrobatics endred(49)
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01 : Brawl enhancement(01)
01 : Sprint enhancement(01)
02 : Rest enhancement(02)
The acc in Psi Wail is actually a dam/acc Hami-O.
Ignore the slot levels, this is a 50 respec.
I really dont want to change my healer at all, I got to level 50 as she is and she is probably not very good really, my first character and I didnt know what I was doing, lol, but I like her and dont want to change any powers. I might put in different SOs though, putting in more recharges sounds a very good idea.
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is everybody dropping stamina then?
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I'm actually planning on picking it up for once. Now that I'm slotting some attacks I think I'll want the endurance.
Although my heal has decreased I can still keep a team alive most of the time. How are you guys slotting Heal Aura and Heal Other?
I have 3 respecs on Sexy Lady to use so will play a bit on test.
Personally I think I will be keeping stamina in my build (subject to testing) to compensate a little for the cooldown on hasten and ra.
Also think I will have to build in absorb pain - a power until now I have not thought much of but with minimal end cost and a big heal - it certainly becomes tempting in light of ED.
Well as soon as you've respec'd and are happy with it we all look forward to seeing an updated Empath guide
Defiant
Proud Member of the Liberty Legion
Venture - Emp/En Defender
Seph - Kat/SR Scrapper
Blizzard - Ice/Storm Controller
Legionelosis - Rad/Rad Defender
so, next question. Healing aura and heal other. Is it worth slotting them 3 recharge speed and 3 heal or as 4 heal and 2 recharge? Goes anyone know which gives a larger amount healed per min?
Defiant
Proud Member of the Liberty Legion
Venture - Emp/En Defender
Seph - Kat/SR Scrapper
Blizzard - Ice/Storm Controller
Legionelosis - Rad/Rad Defender
HPM for 3/3 combo = 3216 healing points with 12 heals delivered under hasten at 268 points per heal
HPM for 4/2 combo= 2968 healing points with 11 heals delivered at 271 points per heal
Used 50++ heal SO and 50++ recharge i am sure the difference at 3/3 is bigger one i slot all level 53's inside.
I am preparing a new Empath build for PvP as well which is under testing so might take a bit but will come
What is noticeable is the small amount of stamina necessary for the defenders now especially with the reduction of ED end use and the inherent power they got....the more the pressure rises the less stamina they use....so some hardcore empaths might be interested in a non stamina build.
Thanks for the info TG. Yeah still toying with completely dropping stamina...
Defiant
Proud Member of the Liberty Legion
Venture - Emp/En Defender
Seph - Kat/SR Scrapper
Blizzard - Ice/Storm Controller
Legionelosis - Rad/Rad Defender
i made a new build for TG with no stamina to test it out and with no end reducers except teleport that i used as travel power....got conserve as well in and tested it out...had no stamina issues while normal healing cycles and buffs and running 2 toggles....when the helaing cycle was necessary to be raised i saw an even less use of stamina due to the combined dropping health of teammates. And there was always conserve as a backup panic button...
So, whose got what ideas on how they're gonna slot their empath now?
Defiant
Proud Member of the Liberty Legion
Venture - Emp/En Defender
Seph - Kat/SR Scrapper
Blizzard - Ice/Storm Controller
Legionelosis - Rad/Rad Defender