Multiple same sets on same character


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I have a set of Obliteration on one of my character's main powers. I have recently got drops of a couple duplicates that I could use on a second power my character has. But a guy I team with says I can't do that - that it doesn't give me the second bonuses if I use the same kind of set on two different powers. Is this true? I hadn't heard of that.


 

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it is not true. as long as the power takes obliteration you can slot them and get the bonuses. just make sure that you don't already have 5 of the same named bonuses that obliteration offers.


 

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You can put as many of the same set onto a character as you want. However, there are certain exceptions to this:

1) Purples: These are level 50 IO sets, and you can only have one of each IO within the set on any character.

2) Uniques: These are IO enhancements within a set that are restricted to only being able to be slotted once by a single character on a build. These are things like the Steadfast Protection +3% Def IO, which you can only slot once in a build.

3) The rule of 5. You can only get a certain set bonus up to 5 times in a build. As such, you can make a build that has 5 +6.25% Recharge bonuses, and 5 +4% Recharge bonuses, but if you build one with 7 +6.25% Recharge bonuses, only 5 of them will work. So putting a lot of the same set on a single build might not get you the most benefit.


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He's was misinformed. Yes 2 obliteration sets work just fine and have excellent set bonuses.

Heres the real rule for set bonuses you can't have more then 5 of the same bonus ie no more then 5%recharge bonuses etc. It doesnt matter what set the bonuses come from if their the exact same just 5 no more.


 

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Inventions

But, basically - you can slot any number of a set in your build. EXCEPTIONS: Purples, but then, each IO in a purple set is unique.

There is a limit to how many copies of a given set bonus you can benefit from, however.

Law of Fives

So go and slot that second set of Obliteration in another power.


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I have a set of Obliteration on one of my character's main powers. I have recently got drops of a couple duplicates that I could use on a second power my character has. But a guy I team with says I can't do that - that it doesn't give me the second bonuses if I use the same kind of set on two different powers. Is this true? I hadn't heard of that.

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Nope, that's not true at all. I'll give the guy you team with the benefit of the doubt and say he is misinformed (rather than an idiot, which is the other choice)

I'll go with the example of Obliteration, since you already know what it does.

You can have up to 5 sets of Obliteration slotted and still get all the bonuses. If you slot a 6th set (ignoring the fact that no powerset combination HAS that many PBAoEs) you will not gain any further bonuses, but the enhancements themselves will still function just fine. That is because of the Rule of 5. You can only have 5 of any given set bonus percentage.

Now, say you have 4 Obliteration sets and a Doctored Wounds on your character. Since both sets contain a 5% recharge bonus, if you were to add a 5th Obliteration set you would not benefit from the recharge bonus. But...the other set bonuses would work just fine.


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3) The rule of 5. You can only get a certain set bonus up to 5 times in a build. As such, you can make a build that has 5 +6.25% Recharge bonuses, and 5 +4% Recharge bonuses, but if you build one with 7 +6.25% Recharge bonuses, only 5 of them will work. So putting a lot of the same set on a single build might not get you the most benefit.

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Just out of curiosity, does the Rule of 5 also apply to purples? I noticed there are well more than 5 purple sets that give 15% Accuracy bonus and 10% Recharge bonus. If someone were to somehow manage to come up with a build that could take more than 5 of these sets, would the Rule of 5 kick in on these, or are purples exempt? (barring hitting any recharge or ACC cap anyway)


 

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3) The rule of 5. You can only get a certain set bonus up to 5 times in a build. As such, you can make a build that has 5 +6.25% Recharge bonuses, and 5 +4% Recharge bonuses, but if you build one with 7 +6.25% Recharge bonuses, only 5 of them will work. So putting a lot of the same set on a single build might not get you the most benefit.

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Just out of curiosity, does the Rule of 5 also apply to purples? I noticed there are well more than 5 purple sets that give 15% Accuracy bonus and 10% Recharge bonus. If someone were to somehow manage to come up with a build that could take more than 5 of these sets, would the Rule of 5 kick in on these, or are purples exempt? (barring hitting any recharge or ACC cap anyway)

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No, the Law of 5 still applies to purples (I'm 99% sure). The thing is though that you can only put one of each purple IO in the build. Most builds (there are some, but not many that I've tried) don't have that many places to put that many DIFFERENT purples, except for maybe in powers that really don't need that many slots or the slots could be more effective used in another power. Yes you CAN hit it if you try, just in a practical sense most of the time you won't hit it.


 

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3) The rule of 5. You can only get a certain set bonus up to 5 times in a build. As such, you can make a build that has 5 +6.25% Recharge bonuses, and 5 +4% Recharge bonuses, but if you build one with 7 +6.25% Recharge bonuses, only 5 of them will work. So putting a lot of the same set on a single build might not get you the most benefit.

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Just out of curiosity, does the Rule of 5 also apply to purples? I noticed there are well more than 5 purple sets that give 15% Accuracy bonus and 10% Recharge bonus. If someone were to somehow manage to come up with a build that could take more than 5 of these sets, would the Rule of 5 kick in on these, or are purples exempt? (barring hitting any recharge or ACC cap anyway)

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Nothing is exempt. LotG:Recharges, KBIOs, all those follow the rule of five as well (check combat attributes to see if Karma, Zephyr, and Steadfast all hae the same name or not for their KB protection - it's the name under the combat attributes that matters.


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Nothing is exempt. LotG:Recharges, KBIOs, all those follow the rule of five as well (check combat attributes to see if Karma, Zephyr, and Steadfast all hae the same name or not for their KB protection - it's the name under the combat attributes that matters.

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The name in Combat Attributes are actually Karma: Knockback Protection and Steadfast Protection: Knockback Protection (guessing Blessing of the Zephyr would say "Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Protection").

So that being the case, you could have 5 of each, if you have enough powers to take them all. Wow! That would be 75 points of protection. Then 5 Kinetic Crash sets would bring that up to 90. Add Acrobatics into the build with a KB enhancement, and we are up to what Acro used to be before it got nerfed (minus the KB resistance).

Granted, that would be extremely wasteful as far as powers, slots, and inf go; but still an amusing late night before sleep mental exercise.


 

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actually that would be pretty sweet to waste the second build on so you could go into zones or arena and make bets with people to see if they knock you off your feet.