Seems the toughest Brutes these days are of the /Fire variety. Healing Flames recharge can be brought down to ridiculously low levels which will make you a hard out. SS/ is still the primary of choice so far as I can see.
An interesting fact as well, if you take tough if actually increases all your resistance, you're actually tougher in PvP than you are in PvE.
Most brutes/tanks seem to hover around the 55% damage resistance mark to all anyway thanks to DR and SS with rage, combined with Fires Fiery Embrace notches up your damage quite a bit, especially when combined with the Long animating (and therefore high damage) attack of KO blow and throw_fish.
More experienced PvPers, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Also quick question myself, is Mids borked slightly or does boxing really do the stupidly high damage I'm seeing it (386 on my build) and thats with just Rage.
Yes, Fury is still hosed. The two things I liked best about electric armor, the capped energy damage resistance and the teleportation protection, were taken away. Nowadays the only thing that really differentiates the brute secondaries in PvP is some form of Dull Pain and/or how much self-healing it provides. Electric armor strikes out on both accounts, so my SS/electric just PvE's (at which he is still very, very good).
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Electric armor strikes out on both accounts, so my SS/electric just PvE's (at which he is still very, very good).
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ELA isn't even that great in pve when compared to all of the other sets, which is why so many people are asking for a major overhaul and "Buff" to ELA in all venues of gameplay.
Which always strikes me as funny. I love my EM/Elec and essentially trivialized most of the game's content with it, then people came out saying how gimp /elec was. I honestly couldn't believe it until I started to run some comparisons with some other melee toons I had. Then I'd read about people complaining that some enemies in this game are too hard.
"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict
You have Aid Self on your ElA?
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"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict
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You have Aid Self on your ElA?
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I'm sorry, but Aid Self is garbage, especially in pvp these days.
This was my main back in the day. Came back and called in alot of favors to buddies (id stripped all my IOs and hamis gave em away when I "left" never cancelled sub just stopped playin). He is not purpled out, but as good as he can be till then (crushin imps, procs, zingers, obliteration, mir, numina, regen tissue, pounding slugs, plus a few hamis like in rage).
He gets his kicked around alot. The biggest problem is versus negative energy (like 39%resists lol). I was thinkin frostworks is just what this toon needs in a 2v2 match to toughen him up.
I kept waitin for devs to fix brutes and taunt in PvP. They fixed taunt, and left brutes alone. Global changes are killin my elec.
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An interesting fact as well, if you take tough if actually increases all your resistance, you're actually tougher in PvP than you are in PvE.
Most brutes/tanks seem to hover around the 55% damage resistance mark to all anyway thanks to DR and SS with rage, combined with Fires Fiery Embrace notches up your damage quite a bit, especially when combined with the Long animating (and therefore high damage) attack of KO blow and throw_fish.
More experienced PvPers, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Also quick question myself, is Mids borked slightly or does boxing really do the stupidly high damage I'm seeing it (386 on my build) and thats with just Rage.
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With diminishing returns, the additional +res to everything that Tough gives won't even be enough to make up for the resistance that DR lops off (for example, on my Fire/SS, my 90% fire resistance gets DR'd to about 55% in RV).
Regarding Boxing, Mids' numbers are too high - but it does do stupid amounts of damage nonetheless. This is apparently balanced because everyone has access to those powers, and that way if you have a weaker attack set, you'll be able to get more damage out of the pools. No, I don't follow that logic either... I mean, it's like saying "Yeah, we realize your set is bad, but rather than fix the set we'll just tell you to take pool attacks."
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This was my main back in the day. Came back and called in alot of favors to buddies (id stripped all my IOs and hamis gave em away when I "left" never cancelled sub just stopped playin). He is not purpled out, but as good as he can be till then (crushin imps, procs, zingers, obliteration, mir, numina, regen tissue, pounding slugs, plus a few hamis like in rage).
He gets his kicked around alot. The biggest problem is versus negative energy (like 39%resists lol). I was thinkin frostworks is just what this toon needs in a 2v2 match to toughen him up.
I kept waitin for devs to fix brutes and taunt in PvP. They fixed taunt, and left brutes alone. Global changes are killin my elec.
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I think you are sticking too stubbornly to this toon.
It is really easy to level ANYTHING up with AE farms everywhere.
I think SS is a great primary if you throw rocks and sharks all day but you really need to go /fire or /invuln for secondary. I really haven't seen elec do much in PVP. Even one of the cooler things that /elec has going for it, the slow and recharge resist doesn't mean as much since /fire and /invuln can both take smaller versions of that resistance in their own sets and movement slows don't seem to do much anyways.
Just level up a SS/fire or SS/invuln brute, IO the crap out of him and throw some sharks and I think you will be a lot happier.
Its not the leveling its the IOs, slotting, build, learning to play and all the accolades. I just dont have the time anymore or the infamy to fund another toon. Id have to spend all my time respecing and taking IOs outta this toon, sellin em, so I could make inf to buy for a different toon. I could play maybe 5-10 hours a month, and rarely will hit that. So basically its probably this or nothing. Cause grinding out another 50.... I dunno....
So havent pvpd organized like in a long time. Since back when DR stood for Dark Revolution. Not some BS about returns.
Used a taunt bot ss/elec brute back then. I was tough but damage output seemed low. Now it seems reverse, Im squishy as hell and damage is better but not enough to overcome alot of heroes Im seeing.
What should I be lookin for resistance wise, HP wise. Whats my role? Is electric armor a bad way to go in PVP these days? Fury still seems borked...
Just lookin for more input.