An Odd Virtueverse dilemma


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I recently snagged the name Reichmaiden, she is going to be my Going Rogue character.. I was thrilled that I got this name!

Then I went to virtue verse and saw a rather well done, massive page to that name, and stopped short.

I mean, I got the name fair and square, but I feel like I'm stepping on another players toes by taking a name that they put alot of effort into, and in the event I make a VV for her, I don't want to nullify the hard work and dedication of the name holder before me...

Help?


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Disambiguation page!


 

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I looked it up, don't see the page.


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I recently snagged the name Reichmaiden, she is going to be my Going Rogue character.. I was thrilled that I got this name!

Then I went to virtue verse and saw a rather well done, massive page to that name, and stopped short.

I mean, I got the name fair and square, but I feel like I'm stepping on another players toes by taking a name that they put alot of effort into, and in the event I make a VV for her, I don't want to nullify the hard work and dedication of the name holder before me...

Help?

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If the character does not exist then they have obviously nullified the work themselves. Contrary to what its promoters cliam the virtueverse is neither an authoritative source of canon, nor more importantly in this case, an authoritative arbiter of who has claim to what. If they wrote up a background but never created the character (or deleted the character, or moved the character to another server, or otherwise its just not around), then they have no claim whatsoever to represent that character in game anymore then writting my third grade essay on what I would do if I were president gives me the right to run the free world.

If you had stolen something from them - if you had plagerized the name or the backstory from their work for instnace - that would be different, but thats not the case here. You came up with it fair and square. So did they, but its not your fault that they never bothered to act on the concept they dreamed up and you did.

All that said, you might consider making some reference to this other person in your character description, or perhaps in your own Virtue Universe page if you create one. Aside from giving credit to this anonymous other person for their own creativity, it will also make certain that no one confuses your character for theirs in the event that they ever had one.

Finally, if your excessive gamer-guilt simply cannot get over the illusion that you owe this stranger anything, then perhaps you should contact them and ask what the sitaution is? I dont use the VirtueVerse (in fact, I make it a point not to) but if it is anything like most "Wiki" sites, then there is probably some way to contact the author of a particular article, either using a built-in messaging feature, or by email. If not knowing what the deal is with their character si going to drive you mad, then contact them and ask.


 

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Additionally: the Wiki stores a history of the page. So if you wipe its contents and the original creator of the page wants that content later (say, for Reichlady, the re-created version of the original character), they can just go back to the history and fetch their stuff.


 

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I thought VV was using MediaWiki? What's so wrong about a disambiguation page? Simple, straightforward, nobody loses anything.


 

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Find her and contact her, talk about it.


 

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Here I come to ruin your day.

You just called your character 'rich maiden'. There's a reason Reichsman (still a terrible name with the amalgamation of languages there, but oh well) has that S in there. Reichs- is contracted from the Genitive 'des Reichs', 'of the realm'. Reich just means rich.*

The extra S defines the relation between the other parts of the composite. Compare English helmsman. Helmman would render an entirely different image and a different type of helm. Woodsman and woodman, same story, forrester or statue.

In other words, it's all for naught anyhow.


* As to why those words are so damned similar, well, they have a common Germanic root which is also the base of the -ric/-rik/-rich suffix in Germanic names. The root equates to being rich (in), powerful (in), and also indicative of rulership (over). As such, it also appears in the German word for kingdom, Königreich. That which is ruled by a king. Later generalized and shortened to Reich since there wasn't always a king in charge. And that is the Reich the name Reichsman references.


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from the Contributor History page:

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# 04:55, 13 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Reichsmaiden (Removing all content from page) (top) [rollback]
# 00:19, 9 January 2009 (hist) (diff) Reichsmaiden (→Trivia)


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Sounds as if they bailed out. Name's yours, run with it.



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Actually, it is ReichSmaiden, new wireless keyboard and all that, the s must not have sent.

Thanks, Soul,and everyone else, I have tried to get in contact, to try and make sure they didn;t want the name back or anything, but no responce, I'm going to claim it as my own.

If you were the owner of this name, please get in contact with me, I know it may be silly, but as a player, to a player. I wanna make sure, is all.


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Thief!


 

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:C I seriously TRIED, dude...


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I suspect Stryphe is only teasing, but congratualtions - Im glad you got it worked out.