is practiced brawler even needed?


ArcticFahx

 

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On my /sr I just respecced out of practiced brawler as a test, and I'm still not getting mezzed. Is this going to become a problem later, or can I just skip it forever?


 

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You need it. Never skip it. There will always be enemies around that can mezz you. In the late game it'll be a non-stop mezz fest for you. If you wanna see how big of a deal mezzes are, go check out the Blaster forums.


 

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On my /sr I just respecced out of practiced brawler as a test, and I'm still not getting mezzed. Is this going to become a problem later, or can I just skip it forever?

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It will be a problem with AV's and even soft capped you need it also realize that quite a few psi attacks late game have no postional defense and you will get chain mezzed by carnies and the like


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SR also doesn't provide defense against Dominate, which is Psi based only (Melee, Aoe and Ranged def does not work versus it). Face any foe with Dominate and you will be held constantly.


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Also do not forget things like shaman earth quakes and stuff they can be a nightmare


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Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50;Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA

 

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Back in the really early days of the game (back when Unyielding Stance nailed your feet to the floor, and it was either/or with some other armor, and there were no Break Frees) I went without mez protection to level 32 or 33. It got bad in a hurry. I spent about eight levels flattening Crey power armor in revenge.

Level 30: Mez becomes big and ugly and frequent in melee range. Freakin' riot cops will stun you and they are minions.

Level 35-40: Ranged mez starts getting really prevalent.
Level 41-50: Is there anything in this powerband that doesn't knock down, stun, sleep, hold, immobilize, or drain endurance?

As a test, see if you can find an AE mission that has Crey power armor in it- should auto SK you up to about 30 or 35. Do a couple missions, see how it goes when those big-damage, mezzing hits land.


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Yea... I gotta say... Leveling a claw/sr scrapper I never realized how much mezzing is in the game. I saw enemies doing the mind control sleep, and I assumed it was wasted graphics.

Then I rolled a blaster. Man oh man oh man. I'd never realized till then freakshow can stun you for instance. The only mobs I knew had mez were tsoo yellow ink men, and lost bosses. Didn't realize how much mez Malta does either... until my mastermind started geting stunned for a minute at a time from one single grenade.


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Also keep in mind that when a mez does land and affect you all your toggles suppress dropping your defense substantially.


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Also keep in mind that when a mez does land and affect you all your toggles suppress dropping your defense substantially.

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Granted, that don't happen often. I have gotten held by CoT just outside Portal Corp though, I get immobilized by them slightly more often. 3 times instead of 1.


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Have you ever ran positron task force on a non wp or sd scrapper? If not, try it. What you experiance there is whats gonna happen to you the rest of the game until you respec that power back in.


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Have you ever ran positron task force on a non wp, sd, or DA scrapper? If not, try it. What you experiance there is whats gonna happen to you the rest of the game until you respec that power back in.

[/ QUOTE ]Fixed, /Dark gets their mez protection pre-15, too.


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Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
Apostrophe guidelines.

 

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Have you ever ran positron task force on a non wp, sd, or DA scrapper? If not, try it. What you experiance there is whats gonna happen to you the rest of the game until you respec that power back in.

[/ QUOTE ]Fixed, /Dark gets their mez protection pre-15, too.

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Forgive me. I'm half sleep this morning at work reading the board from a blackberry. In my head I was thinking SD. Not DA. Maybe I should got hide in the restroom and take a nap.


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Have you ever ran positron task force on a non wp, sd, or DA scrapper? If not, try it. What you experiance there is whats gonna happen to you the rest of the game until you respec that power back in.

[/ QUOTE ]Fixed, /Dark gets their mez protection pre-15, too.

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Forgive me. I'm half sleep this morning at work reading the board from a blackberry. In my head I was thinking SD. Not DA. Maybe I should got hide in the restroom and take a nap.

[/ QUOTE ]SD also has mez protection pre-15, you just forgot DA. It happens.


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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
Apostrophe guidelines.

 

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Have you ever ran positron task force on a non wp, sd, or DA scrapper? If not, try it. What you experiance there is whats gonna happen to you the rest of the game until you respec that power back in.

[/ QUOTE ]Fixed, /Dark gets their mez protection pre-15, too.

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Think SR gets theirs at around level 12 but I can't remember. It's been so long since my SR scrapper got it.


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I love how click mez protections still give the mez resistance if it's overwhelmed. Toggle mez protection doesn't.


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That is true. But for those times the click mezz res powers activate and then things go south and you end up making a trip from the hospital, that mez is most likely not back up yet and that's annoying to wait on. No waiting with toggles.

At least it can become perma in normal sitations unlike the troller's version of indom will in the psionic mastery set. I look at that power as a tease but I'd never skip it if I take that pool.


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Have you ever ran positron task force on a non wp, sd, or DA scrapper? If not, try it. What you experiance there is whats gonna happen to you the rest of the game until you respec that power back in.

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Minor nitpick. DA doesn't get knock back protection, and most of what you're facing in that TF is tons, and TONS, of earthquakes.


 

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That is true. But for those times the click mezz res powers activate and then things go south and you end up making a trip from the hospital, that mez is most likely not back up yet and that's annoying to wait on. No waiting with toggles.

At least it can become perma in normal sitations unlike the troller's version of indom will in the psionic mastery set. I look at that power as a tease but I'd never skip it if I take that pool.

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Honestly? By the time I get back from the hospital PB has already activated most likely. It charges fairly quickly with quickness and 2 SO recharge redux.


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Have you ever ran positron task force on a non wp, sd, or DA scrapper? If not, try it. What you experiance there is whats gonna happen to you the rest of the game until you respec that power back in.

[/ QUOTE ]Fixed, /Dark gets their mez protection pre-15, too.

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Minor nitpick. DA doesn't get knock back protection, and most of what you're facing in that TF is tons, and TONS, of earthquakes.

[/ QUOTE ]Steadfast Protection: -KB is available at level 10.


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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
Apostrophe guidelines.

 

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Have you ever ran positron task force on a non wp, sd, or DA scrapper? If not, try it. What you experiance there is whats gonna happen to you the rest of the game until you respec that power back in.

[/ QUOTE ]Fixed, /Dark gets their mez protection pre-15, too.

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Minor nitpick. DA doesn't get knock back protection, and most of what you're facing in that TF is tons, and TONS, of earthquakes.

[/ QUOTE ]Steadfast Protection: -KB is available at level 10.

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