it is no ones fault but your owqn for not allowing other players in your sg that could be earning you prestige so you can build your base. several people, including myself, have told you to add 9 more of your alts to your sg to get 180K more prestige to use to build with. but you seem to be shrugging off that option. if you need to use teleporters for now coalition with one of the sg's that you are already in if you are in any others and use their's to teleport until you have the beacons and teleporters in yours.
Don't misunderstand, I'm not shrugging off that idea (though, I won't have all heroes on the server, so they won't all go into the SG). I'm just saying that the costs are still rather unnecessarily high for rooms that don't DO anything.
Basically what I'm saying is that the active rooms (Control/Power/Medical/etc.) should continue to cost what they do now, but the purely decorative rooms should be much cheaper - on the order of ten times cheaper (if you ask me).
ok i guess i don't get why without a functional base you would wan't to put in decorative rooms that do nothing. i would worry anbout getting a fully functional base before adding decorative rooms. remember that if the sg you are coaled with doesn't pay their rent before the lockout you won't be able to use their teleporters at all. hence why i say make your base fully functional before decorative rooms.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
My plan was to build the base using decorative rooms (on the idea that they would be cheaper than the functional ones), and decorate it to my liking. There would be no complaints because my alts are the only members (theoretically). As the group gains prestige, I would gradually swap out decorative rooms with functional ones.
However, the decorative rooms are as expensive as the functional ones, often moreso!
It's just a little disappointing. It was something I had hoped to have some fun with. Now it looks as though I can't, for at least a couple of years (since I have several alts to work up, and tend to level slowly at the best of times).
Of course, I could invite other players, but no one would want to join a SG with no base, would they?
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They are not end-game content. They are *GROUP* content so, yes, it's very difficult/slow for a soloer to get a decent base.
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This.
Solo bases are the exception and not the rule in comic books.
Batman or Tony Stark can spend their billions to buy Prestige to supplement their income, and that gets them the huge digs they've got, with all the trimmings. Spiderman can afford a single room with one storage unit.
The JLA worked out of a small cave in Rhode Island in their early days and eventually upgraded to the Justice League Satellite. The X-Mansion has gone through countless upgrades over the years, adding more and more functionality into its design, along with higher levels of tech. In other words, they built it up as they went along, same as you have to do.
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why not just use the functional rooms. they take unlimited decorative items. then you can have your decorations and functionality to. and no. i dont want to join an sg because it has decorative rooms. i want to join because it is a functional base or i like the people in the sg. joining a base that doesn't have functional means isn't a great idea at all. but the more people you get to join, the more prestige you make, the bigger and better and faster you can make your base.
Ultimo, why not just use functional rooms, and decorate those?
As for the simplest 'functional' base, if it's just you, you can get away with one teleport pad. Just swap out the beacons for the location you wish to go. That and a work room is all I have in my VG.
I might have missed it, what server are you on?
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Of course, I could invite other players, but no one would want to join a SG with no base, would they?
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When you're recruiting, explain that you're just starting. Some people like getting in on that, helping to build from the ground up. Be up-front about it though and let people know your intentions. That's what I did for the SG I used to run on my own, and I had people join up who were more than willing to jump into the Prestige mines, earn telepad beacons, whatever. It worked because they could see their contributions directly affecting their surroundings everytime they entered the base. I was also lucky in that we still had Base Salvage at the time and whenever I was recruiting, I had leaders of established SGs handing me piles and piles of the stuff for free to help us get up and running.
For my own "JLA/Avengers"-style SG, I've got a big head start on you in terms of planning and Prestige, so its not as hard for me to wait it out and build what little is still needed for that base before I do major recruiting. It took a lot of work and a lot of patience to build mostly solo (and mostly on lesser used alts) to where it is now though.
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Ultimo, why not just use functional rooms, and decorate those?
As for the simplest 'functional' base, if it's just you, you can get away with one teleport pad. Just swap out the beacons for the location you wish to go. That and a work room is all I have in my VG.
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Good call -- that's how one of my red side bases started out. It was a little awkward at times, but it worked out easily enough.
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Yes, I'd be curious to know as well. If nothing else I might be able to offer a coalition spot so you have access to everything while you're under construction.
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Ultimo, why not just use functional rooms, and decorate those?
As for the simplest 'functional' base, if it's just you, you can get away with one teleport pad. Just swap out the beacons for the location you wish to go. That and a work room is all I have in my VG.
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Good call -- that's how one of my red side bases started out. It was a little awkward at times, but it worked out easily enough.
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True - there are usually several Base Builders willing to offer coalitions tohelp out beginning base builders. Depending on server & side, I typically will coalition with just about anyone (now that they can't steal my stuff from storage).
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To answer a couple of things, I probably will use functional rooms since the decorative ones are just as expensive. I mean, why bother with them if I can get the functional ones?
I'm playing this group on Infinity, and I have a Justice Lague-based group on Justice (it seemed a natural choice).
Coalitions are fine, but the truth is, bases don't offer any funtions I really need. I can rez in the zone I'm in, so I don't generally need a medbay, I can travel via the trains, Pocket D and Ouroboros, so the teleporters are not really necessary, and there are Vaults and Wentworths that let me store stuff, so storage isn't usually an issue.
I really just wanted a base to have fun decorating it. Anything else is a luxury, really.
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Well, tell that to the super guy with the Fortress of Solitude.
Gotta be careful with those blanket type statements (i.e. Bases are for groups). While I agree with the flavor of most of the advice given so far (and no one said things in absolute terms), solo bases in CoX are certainly doable (more so with the recent reduction in prices and rent). It does require some effort/patience to raise the necessary prestige capital and there is a significant "hump" between the Oversight Center level and greater things... but it's been done. Also, lots of folks have been lucky (or unlucky depending on your point of view) enough to pretty much inherit a base after the departure of others.
Not out to pick an argument but there may be more solo bases out there than ppl might, at first glance, think.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom (or freem?) fighter; just as one man's exploit is another man's feature.
Well, all of my Alt's on Justice are already in an SG, but I might have one or two on Infinity I can throw your way, just to pad you roster.
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Well, tell that to the super guy with the Fortress of Solitude.
Gotta be careful with those blanket type statements (i.e. Bases are for groups).
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Did you read the rest of what he said or just stop there? Superman is (I think) the only major superhero with a "one-man sg-base" that he didn't mention. Exception doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, it means that it's rare.
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Well, tell that to the super guy with the Fortress of Solitude.
Gotta be careful with those blanket type statements (i.e. Bases are for groups).
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Did you read the rest of what he said or just stop there? Superman is (I think) the only major superhero with a "one-man sg-base" that he didn't mention. Exception doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, it means that it's rare.
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Here we go. Just what I wanted to avoid. Did you read where I said "no one said things in absloute terms" or "Not out to pick an argument" or "may be more solo bases [i.e. it may be less rare...in CoX terms] than ppl might, at first glance, think "?
I give up.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom (or freem?) fighter; just as one man's exploit is another man's feature.
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Well, tell that to the super guy with the Fortress of Solitude.
Gotta be careful with those blanket type statements (i.e. Bases are for groups).
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Did you read the rest of what he said or just stop there? Superman is (I think) the only major superhero with a "one-man sg-base" that he didn't mention. Exception doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, it means that it's rare.
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Yeah I was mostly just throwing examples out there to explain the difference between the resources needed for a solo base. Bats and Shell-head were just the first two that came to mind for me for big solo bases, and Spidey was a no-brainer as an example of the typical starter solo base, at least using his days as a student scraping to make ends meet as the basis.
I could easily run off a list of 30 or 40 more examples off the top of my head if I really wanted to, but I think I got my point across. lol
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Did you read the rest of what he said or just stop there? Superman is (I think) the only major superhero with a "one-man sg-base" that he didn't mention. Exception doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, it means that it's rare.
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Here we go. Just what I wanted to avoid. Did you read where I said "no one said things in absloute terms" or "Not out to pick an argument" or "may be more solo bases [i.e. it may be less rare...in CoX terms] than ppl might, at first glance, think "?
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Probably a good idea.
I find it is hard for one to keep an argument going, when you are saying almost the same thing that the person you are trying to argue against is saying.
(Although he was talking about bases in comics, and you were talking about in-game. You know, apples/oranges)
Yes, In COMICS, Solo bases are the exception and not the rule. (i.e. they are rare.)
Yes, In CoX, Solo bases are DOable. (although rarer than multi-player bases)
It will be hard to sustain much argument there.
Your points are so close to being identical.
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While I agree that some rooms are way overpriced, my biggest grip is the cost of some of the items. Some are just silly expensive and to make it worse, some just don't make sense. An example, in the "Tech" section the small copper tank and small steel tank... same items, different color... one is 100 prestige, one is 1000?!? Same for the Copper and Steel alembics. Also, a barrel is 10 prestige... a bottle is 100. I mean, c'mon devs, is there really a reason to have the variant prices? I can understand it on the items with extra visual effects such as lights and what not, but a lot of it just does not make sense.
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
My plan was to build the base using decorative rooms (on the idea that they would be cheaper than the functional ones), and decorate it to my liking. There would be no complaints because my alts are the only members (theoretically). As the group gains prestige, I would gradually swap out decorative rooms with functional ones.
However, the decorative rooms are as expensive as the functional ones, often moreso!
It's just a little disappointing. It was something I had hoped to have some fun with. Now it looks as though I can't, for at least a couple of years (since I have several alts to work up, and tend to level slowly at the best of times).
Of course, I could invite other players, but no one would want to join a SG with no base, would they?
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Hmm ... ok, how about, instead of starting with purely decorative rooms, start with the functional rooms? IE: Oversight center which can hold 1 storage, 1 power/control combo unit and 1 workshop item? That's how I started my solo SG and I had the enhancement crafting table in there, a personal salvage vault and the power/control combo unit. As I grew, I added more functional rooms. (And in the functional rooms, you can place unlimited decorative items, so you can dress your base up as you see fit and still have functional items. It's a win-win. So no need to waste the prestige on decorative and functional rooms, just get the functional rooms and decorate them as you like.
As for the time it takes to work up a base, yes it'll take some time, but not as long as it used to. And about inviting others to join, I can't give advice on that. I stand by the previous suggestions of inviting yours and your friend's alts to pad the SG with 15 members. Still, good luck.
They are not end-game content. They are *GROUP* content so, yes, it's very difficult/slow for a soloer to get a decent base.
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