Rise of the Phoenix question


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According to Mids, Rise of the Phoenix doesn't take accuracy enhancements. Yet, when I check City of Data, it appears to summon a pseudopet (the Phoenix) which does its attack at base accuracy. I'm not seeing anything that suggests that it's an autohit attack. So,

1. Is it, in fact, an autohit attack?
2. If it isn't, does slotting say, an Acc/Dam set IO help the Phoenix's accuracy?


 

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According to Mids, Rise of the Phoenix doesn't take accuracy enhancements. Yet, when I check City of Data, it appears to summon a pseudopet (the Phoenix) which does its attack at base accuracy. I'm not seeing anything that suggests that it's an autohit attack. So,

1. Is it, in fact, an autohit attack?
2. If it isn't, does slotting say, an Acc/Dam set IO help the Phoenix's accuracy?

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1) No.
2) Yes.


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Gotta love clear cut Q&A.


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Thanks for the fast response, I guess set IOs are the key here then.


 

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Those or Hamis depending on your budget.


-Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein.
-I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
-When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson

 

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According to Mids, Rise of the Phoenix doesn't take accuracy enhancements. Yet, when I check City of Data, it appears to summon a pseudopet (the Phoenix) which does its attack at base accuracy. I'm not seeing anything that suggests that it's an autohit attack.

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I see that site say it's autohit.

http://coh.redtomax.com/data/powers/...d=Pets_Phoenix

Max targets hit: 16
Entities affected: Foe
Entities autohit: Foe

I see no "Not auto-hit" specification on any individual power effects, either.


 

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According to Mids, Rise of the Phoenix doesn't take accuracy enhancements. Yet, when I check City of Data, it appears to summon a pseudopet (the Phoenix) which does its attack at base accuracy. I'm not seeing anything that suggests that it's an autohit attack.

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I see that site say it's autohit.

http://coh.redtomax.com/data/powers/...d=Pets_Phoenix

Max targets hit: 16
Entities affected: Foe
Entities autohit: Foe

I see no "Not auto-hit" specification on any individual power effects, either.

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Creation of the pseudo-pet is auto-hit(and thus always spawn). The pseudo-pet itself must roll to hit the target.


The plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister.
--The Question, JLU

 

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That's odd, I've never seen it miss before. I fired it off in RV and hit a whole crowd of villains who had just ganked me and it hit every one of em. It has no accuracy slotting in it at all.

Several of the villains in question had high enough defense that I was having trouble hitting them with my regular attacks, even after using Aim.

I've never seen it miss a target in PvE either. I can't accept that I've just been getting that lucky with my to-hit checks.


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From what I can see, the powers are autohit. Looking at Red Tomax's guide, the power summons a Phoenix. Click on Phoenix, and it gives stats for it. Here's a cut and paste from the Phoenix description:

Phoenix

All foes near the power of the Phoenix will be burned and knocked back.
More Detail
Level 1
Type Auto
PvE damage scale 2.000000
Accuracy 1
Modes required
Modes disallowed
Range -
Activate period 2 seconds
Interrupt time -
Cast time -
Recharge time -
Endurance cost -
Attack types AOE_Attack, Fire_Attack
Effect area Sphere
Radius 25 feet
Arc -
Max targets hit 16
Entities affected Foe
Entities autohit Foe
Target Caster
Target visibility Line of Sight
Nofity Mobs Always

I don't have accuracy in mine, I just have an IO for recharge/stun, and it sure seems like anyone near me is stunned when I activate the power.


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That's odd, I've never seen it miss before. I fired it off in RV and hit a whole crowd of villains who had just ganked me and it hit every one of em. It has no accuracy slotting in it at all.

Several of the villains in question had high enough defense that I was having trouble hitting them with my regular attacks, even after using Aim.

I've never seen it miss a target in PvE either. I can't accept that I've just been getting that lucky with my to-hit checks.

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Most psuedo-pets are as I said, but yes you are right. (I double-checked my Blaster) RotP is indeed auto-hit.


The plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called aglets. Their true purpose is sinister.
--The Question, JLU

 

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I didn't want to devote a lot of slots to mine because it's really a situational power, so I dropped a stun/recharge into it. Having the enemies stunned longer is always a good thing. Because I have Heal Self, I just activate that as soon as I resurrect, topping off my health. The stunned enemies are stunned long enough to do that, let me reactivate my toggles, and start wiping them out again, all before the stun wears off.

I believe I was in RV once, and I cast that and stunned one of the AVs once. I resurrected and noticed either Ghost Widow or Scirroco walking around stunned. I didn't think it was enough to do it on its own. Could it? Or was someone else laying stuns on them and mine pushed it over the limit?


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The only problem with defeating the Tsoo is that an hour later, you want to defeat them again!
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"I'm a big believer in Personal Force Field on a blaster. ... It's your happy place." -- Fulmens

 

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Not positive about the damage, but from my experience the stun seems to auto hit. I think the stun is mag30 or something quite powerful.


 

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I agree it's situational, but my situations are usually "let's START this spawn with RotP". I slot it for recharge, 1 endmod, 1 heal, and 1 damage. I have fire shield, but I almost never run it, so I have the slots. And since I have the slots, and I like the animation, and I like the effect, I find it to be a great power to use all.the.time.


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RotF works after Self-Destruct, right?

NO survivors.


 

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The only problem with using self-destruct first is the knockback it has. Those who survive the self-destruct have a good chance of being KBed out of RotF range.

Still worth a try though, and I intend to do so when my /fire scrapper and fire epic blaster get to that point.


 

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By the way, I tested out Rise of the Phoenix in game with the hit rolls being shown, and the Phoenix's attack is, indeed, autohit. Stun, damage, knockback and all.


 

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RotF works after Self-Destruct, right?

NO survivors.

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This combo is actually the reason I picked up RoTP again in a respec... and I havent been disappointed. Shame you can only do it once an hour or so hehe.