Level 56 NPCs for maximum farmage!
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Blackavaar,
Posted on: 2009-05-29 10:42 in Suggestions and Ideas
I'd love to take on a L56 Lanaru the Mad on a good team. Actually, the whole FTF would be pretty awesome with all L56s. The hard part would be finding enough people that wanted to fight L56 Rularuu. 
lol
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a character can gain rewards from defeating NPCs 6 levels above them
[/ QUOTE ]A character can gain rewards from defeating NPCs 60 levels above them, it's just not very likely to happen. The only level restriction is on people in your team, not on the enemies you're fighting.
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So, what I'm suggesting is add a bonus difficulty level 50s that causes NPCs in missions to be set at level 56.
[/ QUOTE ]Basically, screw over everyone playing defensive characters (+6s is where Defense breaks in comparison to Resistance), and keep people from playing with sidekicks (you do about half the damage and debuff to a +7 as you do to a +6, and have about a third of the chance to hit)
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Also give bosses AV/GH protection(Can AV protection just be switched on?).
[/ QUOTE ]AV resistance is just a power that the AV has, so it's theoretically possible. It just means you're shutting out Dominators and Controllers as well as defense characters, though.
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And have NPCs increase it's rate of attack by enough to not really affect its endurance usage.
[/ QUOTE ]Also trying to shut out ice and sappers from this 'challenge'
So, as long as you aren't defense based, aren't a control AT, aren't dependent on slows or endurance drain, aren't a sidekick, and are on a tricked out team of uber players, you might be able to succeed with a few faceplants.
Sounds like a great plan.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
As long as this "bonus difficulty" was only available to level 50 characters as an OPTIONAL thing then I could see this being a cool idea. The reason I make this point is that if people could "accidentally" pit themselves against +6s and give themselves a bunch of XP debt you'd probably have silly people complain about how this thing is "unfair" and it'd be nerfed back. Maybe they could limit it so that the entire team -must- be natural level 50s to even have access to this bonus difficulty in the first place. 
Clearly this idea would probably only appeal to uber and/or masochistic players as an end-game activity.
But if those people have fun with it I don't see a real problem with this.
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I'd love to take on a L56 Lanaru the Mad on a good team. Actually, the whole FTF would be pretty awesome with all L56s. The hard part would be finding enough people that wanted to fight L56 Rularuu. lol
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Pff, you only fight actual Rularuu for like 4 missions of that TF...
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.
not everyone has -def attacks. :/
The title of your thread states the very reason this will never be added, "maximum farmage". The devs are trying desperately to curb farming, not to encourage it.
Nuff said.
Can't Recluse spawn at level 56?
It's vague, but I "think" he can...
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I'd love to take on a L56 Lanaru the Mad on a good team. Actually, the whole FTF would be pretty awesome with all L56s. The hard part would be finding enough people that wanted to fight L56 Rularuu. lol
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Pff, you only fight actual Rularuu for like 4 missions of that TF...
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True, but it's hard enough to find people what want to fight Rularuu in the first place, let alone +6 Rularuu, followed by +6 Malta, Rikti, Nemesis, some Praetoreans and 5 AVs. That's a whole lot of win from my perspective.
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The title of your thread states the very reason this will never be added, "maximum farmage". The devs are trying desperately to curb farming, not to encourage it.
Nuff said.
[/ QUOTE ]You can't farm +6s. At least not without a change to the purple patch and attack mechanics.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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Can't Recluse spawn at level 56?
It's vague, but I "think" he can...
[/ QUOTE ]No, he can't spawn at 56. Nor can the Freedom Phalanx. The game isn't even capable of spawning something above 54 right now.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
Farming is a seemingly accepted exploit.
Want to exploit it more?
Go ahead. Push the barrier even more.
I guess the DEV posts about farming exploits in the AE and the damage that their presence have done to the MA just make no difference to some people.
All they want to do is find another way to abuse the system.
Yeah, I'm sure that the DEVs are going to give you something else to exploit by farming so that you can get even better loot.
if they are crazy enough to implement this, I hope they add enhances that are plus 53 as drops - which can't be slotted by anyone.
There already is a way to get an absurd challenge like this: get a group of like minded crazies together and start a TF with the debuff self and buff enemies options turned on. That'll make you reconsider.
Why would you want to farm 56's? The max bonus to XP/Inf/Prestige is for fighting +5s. Meaning that you would get the same rewards from level 55s, level 56s or level 200s.
In essence, you'd be doing more work for the same rewards, which is the exact opposite of what farmers try to accomplish.
Regardless, the devs will never intentionally add farm exploits for the sake of farming. So please, don't hold your breath waiting for this to happen.
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Why would you want to farm 56's? The max bonus to XP/Inf/Prestige is for fighting +5s. Meaning that you would get the same rewards from level 55s, level 56s or level 200s.
[/ QUOTE ]You sure about that? I know after the Winter Lord debacle, they added a limit on the amount of bars of XP you can gain from a single kill, but I'm pretty sure the rewards still scale at all level differentials.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
Eh... my point for "supporting" this idea was that most people who try to farm something like this are going to get killed every 5 seconds. Even though I wouldn't be there to see it I'd still metaphysically laugh at these people from afar. 
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And challenge... maybe.
I was thinking, a character can gain rewards from defeating NPCs 6 levels above them, but NPCs can only go to level 54. Meaning there's a 2 level potential lack that could give level 50s a bit more challenge. Problem is the difficulty settings are set to where it doesn't go up a level the harder it is set to.
So, what I'm suggesting is add a bonus difficulty level 50s that causes NPCs in missions to be set at level 56. Also give bosses AV/GH protection(Can AV protection just be switched on?). And have NPCs increase it's rate of attack by enough to not really affect its endurance usage.
If it ain't broke set it on fire, then say it was a fault in the design.
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