Can't claim 60 month vet award
Are you talking about the 5 reward merits? Or being able to access a travel power at level 6?
There *should* be a claim button for the merits. For the travel power, there's no button; it's just that any character you make can pick up to the third tier in one of the four travel power pools at level 6 with no prerequisite.
You are looking at the badge in your Most Recent list. The button to select your reward won't appear on that list. Check under Veteran Badges to see the reward choice options.
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... can pick up to the second tier in one of the four travel power pools at level 6 with no prerequisite.
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The travel power is the second tier. The first two powers are both first tier.
Note: You still must have two powers from the pool in order to pick the third tier power (Acrobatics, Vengeance, etc.).
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You are looking at the badge in your Most Recent list. The button to select your reward won't appear on that list. Check under Veteran Badges to see the reward choice options.
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You'd hope that after 5 years they'd have figured that out... =P
(Yes, I'm aware that badges haven't been around that long. Regardless... still ought to have.)
Ahhhh....got it. Thanks!
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You are looking at the badge in your Most Recent list. The button to select your reward won't appear on that list. Check under Veteran Badges to see the reward choice options.
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You'd hope that after 5 years they'd have figured that out... =P
(Yes, I'm aware that badges haven't been around that long. Regardless... still ought to have.)
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Well, the Most Recent list is still somewhat new too. It didn't exist a year ago, let alone five. Give him a break.
You mean 5 Merits was apart of it too? Yippie cant wait another 18 months
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... can pick up to the third tier in one of the four travel power pools at level 6 with no prerequisite.
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The travel power is the second tier. The first two powers are both first tier.
Note: You still must have two powers from the pool in order to pick the third tier power (Acrobatics, Vengeance, etc.).
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Common convention labels them as "first power in the set, tier 1. second power in the set, tier 2. third power in the set, tier 3. fourth power in the set, tier 4." So Super Jump is tier 3; Acrobatics is tier 4.
This is the same as with primary powersets, where the Tier 1 and Tier 2 powers are both selectable at level 1.
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... can pick up to the third tier in one of the four travel power pools at level 6 with no prerequisite.
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The travel power is the second tier. The first two powers are both first tier.
Note: You still must have two powers from the pool in order to pick the third tier power (Acrobatics, Vengeance, etc.).
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Common convention labels them as "first power in the set, tier 1. second power in the set, tier 2. third power in the set, tier 3. fourth power in the set, tier 4." So Super Jump is tier 3; Acrobatics is tier 4.
This is the same as with primary powersets, where the Tier 1 and Tier 2 powers are both selectable at level 1.
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Ah, but common sense would have us instead calling them Tier 1 for both the first and second power, as we can choose either before choosing anything afterwords.
The devs call the travel powers tier 2 powers, it's hardly the first time there has been a slight difference of terminology.
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... can pick up to the third tier in one of the four travel power pools at level 6 with no prerequisite.
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The travel power is the second tier. The first two powers are both first tier.
Note: You still must have two powers from the pool in order to pick the third tier power (Acrobatics, Vengeance, etc.).
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Common convention labels them as "first power in the set, tier 1. second power in the set, tier 2. third power in the set, tier 3. fourth power in the set, tier 4." So Super Jump is tier 3; Acrobatics is tier 4.
This is the same as with primary powersets, where the Tier 1 and Tier 2 powers are both selectable at level 1.
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Ah, but common sense would have us instead calling them Tier 1 for both the first and second power, as we can choose either before choosing anything afterwords.
[/ QUOTE ]So what tier is Punch? Tier 1 or Tier 2? Is Dawn Strike T8 or T14? Or maybe it's T9, because it's a nuke? Due to variations between AT and the 60mo vet reward, it's far simpler and less confusing to name the tiers based on the ordering of the powers, rather than the level the powers become available.
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... can pick up to the third tier in one of the four travel power pools at level 6 with no prerequisite.
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The travel power is the second tier. The first two powers are both first tier.
Note: You still must have two powers from the pool in order to pick the third tier power (Acrobatics, Vengeance, etc.).
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Common convention labels them as "first power in the set, tier 1. second power in the set, tier 2. third power in the set, tier 3. fourth power in the set, tier 4." So Super Jump is tier 3; Acrobatics is tier 4.
This is the same as with primary powersets, where the Tier 1 and Tier 2 powers are both selectable at level 1.
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Ah, but common sense would have us instead calling them Tier 1 for both the first and second power, as we can choose either before choosing anything afterwords.
[/ QUOTE ]So what tier is Punch? Tier 1 or Tier 2? Is Dawn Strike T8 or T14? Or maybe it's T9, because it's a nuke? Due to variations between AT and the 60mo vet reward, it's far simpler and less confusing to name the tiers based on the ordering of the powers, rather than the level the powers become available.
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True. And for powersets, the devs do it that way as well. Apparently, though since pool power access is the same for all, they call both of the first two tier 1.
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... can pick up to the second tier in one of the four travel power pools at level 6 with no prerequisite.
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The travel power is the second tier. The first two powers are both first tier.
Note: You still must have two powers from the pool in order to pick the third tier power (Acrobatics, Vengeance, etc.).
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The Devs call the travel power the THIRD tier of the pool. (See here and here.)
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The devs call the travel powers tier 2 powers
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No, they don't. See my post above.
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... can pick up to the third tier in one of the four travel power pools at level 6 with no prerequisite.
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The travel power is the second tier. The first two powers are both first tier.
Note: You still must have two powers from the pool in order to pick the third tier power (Acrobatics, Vengeance, etc.).
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Common convention labels them as "first power in the set, tier 1. second power in the set, tier 2. third power in the set, tier 3. fourth power in the set, tier 4." So Super Jump is tier 3; Acrobatics is tier 4.
This is the same as with primary powersets, where the Tier 1 and Tier 2 powers are both selectable at level 1.
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Ah, but common sense would have us instead calling them Tier 1 for both the first and second power, as we can choose either before choosing anything afterwords.
[/ QUOTE ]So what tier is Punch? Tier 1 or Tier 2? Is Dawn Strike T8 or T14? Or maybe it's T9, because it's a nuke? Due to variations between AT and the 60mo vet reward, it's far simpler and less confusing to name the tiers based on the ordering of the powers, rather than the level the powers become available.
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True. And for powersets, the devs do it that way as well. Apparently, though since pool power access is the same for all, they call both of the first two tier 1.
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Also, the in-game badge text for the City Traveler badge refers to the travel powers as "Tier 3" as well.
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The devs call the travel powers tier 2 powers
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No, they don't. See my post above.
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They haven't always. I am positive that I have seen travel powers referred to as tier 2, because that is what they are. Maybe over time the devs just started emulating the players in their ignorance of the meaning of the word tier. A tier is a level at which something becomes available, not just a counting system for telling what number a power is on a list.
Meh, if everyone wants to use the word wrong though, go for it.
When a tanker pops Unstoppable, would you say he's using his "Tier 9" ?
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When a tanker pops Unstoppable, would you say he's using his "Tier 9" ?
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No. It's the 9th power, not the 9th tier and I would refer to it as such.
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I am positive that I have seen travel powers referred to as tier 2, because that is what they are. Maybe over time the devs just started emulating the players in their ignorance of the meaning of the word tier. A tier is a level at which something becomes available, not just a counting system for telling what number a power is on a list.
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Says who? Is there a hard and fast definition of "tier" as used in gaming or something?
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When a tanker pops Unstoppable, would you say he's using his "Tier 9" ?
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No. It's the 9th power, not the 9th tier and I would refer to it as such.
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I'm afraid, given that we now have a definition of the word as the Devs see it, that it is, indeed, the 9th Tier.
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When a tanker pops Unstoppable, would you say he's using his "Tier 9" ?
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No. It's the 9th power, not the 9th tier and I would refer to it as such.
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I'm afraid, given that we now have a definition of the word as the Devs see it, that it is, indeed, the 9th Tier.
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Tier - 1 a: a row, rank, or layer of articles ; especially : one of two or more rows, levels, or ranks arranged one above another
So says merriam-webster.com.
Since the devs use it simply for the sake of the ignorant I feel no compulsion to use it that way. Can we simply agree to disagree and leave it at that now, please?
Move along. Move along. There's nothing to see here.
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When a tanker pops Unstoppable, would you say he's using his "Tier 9" ?
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No. It's the 9th power, not the 9th tier and I would refer to it as such.
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I'm afraid, given that we now have a definition of the word as the Devs see it, that it is, indeed, the 9th Tier.
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Tier - 1 a: a row, rank, or layer of articles ; especially : one of two or more rows, levels, or ranks arranged one above another
So says merriam-webster.com.
Since the devs use it simply for the sake of the ignorant I feel no compulsion to use it that way. Can we simply agree to disagree and leave it at that now, please?
Move along. Move along. There's nothing to see here.
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There's nothing in the definition you quoted to back up EITHER side of the "argument" (not that I even want to call it an argument ). It depends on how you define "rows" or "ranks," and since in many powersets, which powers open up at the various levels changes based on whether the powerset is a primary or a secondary, there's no real value in saying, for example, that "Resist Physical Damage" and "Temp Invulnerability" are "Tier 1" powers, since that would only make sense if you were talking about Tankers.
I'm all for agreeing to disagree, though, except I think you're incorrect in saying that the Devs only define it the way they do because of some majority definition of an ignorant playerbase, since most players that I've talked to and read posts from define "Tier" in exactly the way you do.
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There's nothing in the definition you quoted to back up EITHER side of the "argument"
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I quote:
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especially : one of two or more rows, levels, or ranks arranged one above another
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One of two or more rows, like..?
Hover
Air Superiority
Fly
Group Fly
Seems to support my definition of tier as far as the game is concerned.
Also, I work in QA and Web Development for a Website company. Quite often we have to decide to use words based on the majority misunderstanding other words or terms.
Yes, most of our forum goers are very intelligent and so they use the term in the correct way.
The majority of players however (most of which never come to the forums at all) are not quite as up to speed and so the devs probably decided to use the term in a standard 1, 2, 3 counting method instead of the way it was used before simply because it's easier for the layperson to understand. It's the same kind of decision I would make for our Web Site owners. I know they're not all stupid, but I have to build everything assuming the stupidest person in the world is going to use it and must be able to understand it.
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One of two or more rows, like..?
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All that means is that you have to have more than one row in order to call something a tier. Like, if you only had "Hover" in the Flight pool, it wouldn't make sense to call it a Tier-anything.
None of this really matters; in my original post I was merely using the term as the Devs are currently using it. It's not like I've been agreeing with the Devs much lately (stupid badge deletions).
I didn't see this issue addressed in the global message of the day. My 60 month veteran's award dbadge oesn't have the button to claim the award. Any solutions?