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Sooo.....Anything/Anything Scrapper = pwn?
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To over simplify things, yes.
Each combo has it's strengths and weaknesses. Just learn the 'kryptonite' of the set you chose and you can pretty much handle any scenario any other scrapper can. How you go about it might vary a bit, but that's part of the fun.
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There really aren't a lot of bad scrapper options out there, so you're not going to go wrong. but based on what you've said
Claws is probably the one you want, at extreme levs of Recharge (ie, lots of Follow-up) it becomes a very strong AV killer (I'm pretty sure it's Excelerate who's been posting the videos using his claws scrapper)
And on the pwning large mobs (ie farming) side of things it has more cone and AoE attacks than any other set than spines, you'll need a bit of practice, and probably CJ to make it work, but master Shockwave Knockback effects and you will tear through large mobs incredibly quick.
But honestly, if low budget is a concern, take Dark Melee of Fire Melee, both are VERY strong straight out of the box, Both are very rarely resisted by enemies. Fires Damage is nigh unmatchable on low-mid cost builds, and Dark Melees secondary effects give you a world of options most scrappers lack.
(and on the plus side, Fire/SR with Aid self can solo AVs with only the most basic IO slotting)
Neither of them have a Rularuu options though, Claws does, and it's very pretty, as does Broadsword/Shield.
Meh, my advice, try em all, but extra character slots if you need to, and go nuts,
Reyne hits it right on the head as far as I am concerned!
Claws is a good choice for you I think, also Firey.
I'm in a similar boat as yourself in fact. I have played Blue exclusively for three years and just decided to roll a Brute with Going Rogue announced. I eventually went with Firey/SR which would also serve you really well as a scrapper. Both sets can be very effective cheaply, while leveling but can also really excel at 50 with lots of influence poured into them. In fact I'd say they improve at pretty much an even pace. Getting steadily better as you put more into them rather than needing a ton of cash to take to the next level. Claws may actually lag behind Firey really. I just have a special affection for the Claws set as Excelerate was my first AV killer. The build I am considering for my Firey/SR brute however has me really excited. It looks to outperform Excelerate in every way except attacking multiple hard targets (i.e. a double RWZ challenge type thing).
Now if you want to truly build something nasty for AVs and you don't care terribly that your farming won't be stellar DM/SD can't be beaten imo. 
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Cool, Thanks for the info guys. I will definately keep all these indeas rolling around as I start making my scrapper this weekend, and trying several out. I can usualy tell if I am going to like it by DO lvl. I still have yet to utilize AE (Tried it a couple of times and dont like the fact I dont get drops), but I just might with my scrapper. Thanks again, and anymore options that anyone else has, please keep pouring them in here for me to consider.
BTW, I do like Dm. I have a Brute with Dm/Sr and he is running furiously. I got Stam, but even at lvl 25, with only 3 attacks + Brawl + Air Sup on occasion, I never have to use blues, even in an 8man paper spawn with me being the only melee (Stalkers dont count, they suck anyway hehe). The only problem I run into with him, is the need for health, guess I shold throw a couple of slots into it hehe.
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Ok...Narrowed down alot...
Primaries;
Claws/
Fire/
Dm/
Secondaries;
/Regen
/Sr
/Sd
Which fit better for a low budget growing build, and for a first time Scrapper?
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I can't offer you much help from the primaries you've listed, but some thoughts on your secondaries:
Regen has the big advantage of getting you more endurance. It has the drawback that you have to pay some attention to it, and you'll need to learn when is best to activate some of your click abilities.
/SR is great once you get into the mid to upper 30s, but it's something of a late bloomer. Until then, you have something of a hole in your defenses against AOE attacks, which isn't the end of the world, but it can be a pain sometimes. On the plus side, it's very easy to cap your positional defenses at higher levels without breaking your budget.
/SD is very nice, and gives a pretty smooth ride from 1-50. It would be my pick of the three you list, though you can't take it with every primary, so that may be a concern. You can softcap your defenses at high levels, but it is a pricier task with SD than with SR. SD has a very big plus though, as a farming build, in that it comes with a built-in mini nuke in Shield Charge, that is really great, especially combined with the damage boost from Against All Odds. Overall, not as strong a defensive set as SR, but with compensating additional offensive oomph.
DM/SR works well for cheap though it doesn't really mature until the 30s
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Now, while DM/SD sustainable damage is nearly none existant, it's burst AOE is FREAKISH!! Soul Drain+Shieldcharge+DC+AAO= 9k damage or more. Granted that's only every 90 seconds or so but when it's available DAMN!
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Ok Powerforge, after watching your amazing videos, Hella Congo Ratz BTW on all those AV's, I have a couple of questions for you;
Claws/Regen
Claws/Sr
Dm/Sd
Obviously, the Claws/Sr and Claws/Regen would be cheaper to soft cap correct? Is Dm/Sd realy that costly to soft cap to do what you were doing in the videos with October? Or if I decided to go with Dm/Sd would I be better off on Red side where I have the resources to pay fr the IO's for it?
If it would be cheaper for me in the long run to stay as a Brute because of current resources that I have red side, shold I just make the Dm/Sd Brute then?
Would my Dm/Sr Brute who is currently 25 work decently to the point that I should just stick with him and just farm more Inf for the cost of IO's?
Heh, sory with all the questions, as I just woke up and the servers are down for Maintenance and I am still working on my first cup of coffee trolling all the boards.
If you think it would be more cost effective to just stay Red Side with a Dm/Sd Brute or my Dm/Sr I will....Then I will have to make my Fire/Rad Troller to bring over for Rogue (Obviously there is no hurry in lvling it just yet hehe, thats why all the questions and trial and error on my part...I got some time to play with yet)
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Fire/SR is fantastic. Late bloomer, though, and terribly tight build.
Does solid AE, solid single target.
I'd recommend fire/regen or claws/regen as your first char, frankly.
/SD as a second option, but you should really try fire/regen
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Obviously, the Claws/Sr and Claws/Regen would be cheaper to soft cap correct? Is Dm/Sd realy that costly to soft cap to do what you were doing in the videos with October?
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Whoa, whoa. SR will be cheaper to soft cap. Regen will be the most expensive. SD will be more expensive that SR, but cheaper than Regen...if Regen's even possible to soft cap?
DM/SR will own anything, you just have to spend 10 grand or more and over night parts from Japan.
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Ok Powerforge, after watching your amazing videos, Hella Congo Ratz BTW on all those AV's, I have a couple of questions for you;
Claws/Regen
Claws/Sr
Dm/Sd
Obviously, the Claws/Sr and Claws/Regen would be cheaper to soft cap correct? Is Dm/Sd realy that costly to soft cap to do what you were doing in the videos with October? Or if I decided to go with Dm/Sd would I be better off on Red side where I have the resources to pay fr the IO's for it?
If it would be cheaper for me in the long run to stay as a Brute because of current resources that I have red side, shold I just make the Dm/Sd Brute then?
Would my Dm/Sr Brute who is currently 25 work decently to the point that I should just stick with him and just farm more Inf for the cost of IO's?
Heh, sory with all the questions, as I just woke up and the servers are down for Maintenance and I am still working on my first cup of coffee trolling all the boards.
If you think it would be more cost effective to just stay Red Side with a Dm/Sd Brute or my Dm/Sr I will....Then I will have to make my Fire/Rad Troller to bring over for Rogue (Obviously there is no hurry in lvling it just yet hehe, thats why all the questions and trial and error on my part...I got some time to play with yet)
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softcapping the /sd wouldnt exactly be cheap on red side and would prob take longer as there generally are far fewer of the rarer io's for sale at any given time.
/sr is pretty easy to soft cap if you take the fighting pool and has higher defense debuff resistance than /sd unless you slot a couple expensive hammi-o's and can keep active defense double stacked. /sr is also a tighter build as you want pretty much everything from the secondary as soon as you can. elude is optional but most people take it for the end recovery. something not needed as dm.
I'm not really an expert, but I'd say a good low budget scrapper would be Fire/SR, although like others have said, DM/SR seems pretty good too.
I will also agree with everyone here that SR is the way to go for the cheap, but while leveling it can be a chore before you flesh it out. Regen is a pretty awesome secondary as well if you want to take a spin with a very active defense set. In fact you may want to make a character with it if you never tried a Regeneration Stalker. It's play style is very different from what Brutes have access to. Scrappers are kind of like tattoos. Once you get one you'll get another. Before you know it you'll have a sleeve.
Fire/SR can both farm and solo AVs
Its AoE sustained damage is higher than DM/SD, as Quickness helps FSC recharge faster for more pwnage
Its ST damage may be a little lower but it's FIRE and it goes mostly unresisted, capable of cutting through AVs with godmode and whatnot
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Ok Powerforge, after watching your amazing videos, Hella Congo Ratz BTW on all those AV's, I have a couple of questions for you;
Claws/Regen
Claws/Sr
Dm/Sd
Obviously, the Claws/Sr and Claws/Regen would be cheaper to soft cap correct? Is Dm/Sd realy that costly to soft cap to do what you were doing in the videos with October? Or if I decided to go with Dm/Sd would I be better off on Red side where I have the resources to pay fr the IO's for it?
If it would be cheaper for me in the long run to stay as a Brute because of current resources that I have red side, shold I just make the Dm/Sd Brute then?
Would my Dm/Sr Brute who is currently 25 work decently to the point that I should just stick with him and just farm more Inf for the cost of IO's?
Heh, sory with all the questions, as I just woke up and the servers are down for Maintenance and I am still working on my first cup of coffee trolling all the boards.
If you think it would be more cost effective to just stay Red Side with a Dm/Sd Brute or my Dm/Sr I will....Then I will have to make my Fire/Rad Troller to bring over for Rogue (Obviously there is no hurry in lvling it just yet hehe, thats why all the questions and trial and error on my part...I got some time to play with yet)
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Hi Rag!
I'm sorry it took so long to respond to you. I really needed to take a break for a night from my PC
As to all your questions it looks like they've all been answered!
I will tell you that as far as expense goes both Excelerate and Saint October have hugely expensive builds. Of the two Excelerate was cheaper and I think in general Claws/SR will preform better for less money.
If cost is no object nothing will out perform DM/SD for killing AVs but it's not quite as good for all all around play or teaming.
Good Luck! 
LOL Thanks for the info Powerforge. I have been playing my Dm/Sr Brute and just got off Shadowmaul + Sands of Mu on 6 dock workers (Strikebuster badge) and that was the most beautiful thing to watch (Better than my thug MM actualy which has been gutted and shelved until the day comes when MM's become Gods ya right)
I think I am going to stick with my brute, the damage isnt scrapper lvls, but it sure is fun.
BTW I made a Fire/Rad Controller, and I have to say this about it...HOLY FIRE/RAD Batman!!!!! So once I reroll him into a good name and costume he will be the one for Rogue hehe.
Thanks for all your help guys. But like I said, I have decided to keep my Dm/Sr Brute because I can atleast farm for Io's redside with my farming brute and the group that I normaly farm Lib with.
Thanks again folks and have a great night...heading off to bed.
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Hi there.
I primarily play Red Side.
I PvP on occasion.
I DO like to farm Non AE, namely Lib.
I WOULD like to solo AV's.
I do Solo alot, but not afraid of teaming sometimes.
Playing almost strictly melee characters and knowing Rogue is comming eventualy, I want to build a Scrapper with these things in mind.
So, I come to the Scrapper boards looking for some help.
When it comes to farming, from what I have read, Spines wins out, but is kinda lack luster for things like soloing AV's and PvP.
Obviously, it will have to be a low budget build for now, so it needs to be reliably survivable for a cheap price, and sustain a high enough DPS for atleast most of what I am looking for.
The part about the AV killing isnt to terribly important, and neither is the PvP, but it WOULD be nice...
Thinking on what I just wrote, I am leaning towards Spines or Claws, though Claws isnt great at Farming solo. But as I said, farming is terribly important.
I am very flexable when it comes to my concept as you can tell. St or AoE or even Cone, I realy dont care as long as it can out damage a Brute without Fury (Gods I hate fury, realy annoying trying to kep that stupid thing above 50%).
I would prefer something that I can use with some of the unlockable weapons, specificaly the Rularuu wepaons as it would fit my concept better, but Spines can fit just as easy.
Martial Arts...Well, come to think of it, that would be completely out of the question for my concept.
So...Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
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