Call for a new Accolade


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With all the accolades we have in the game there seems to be a glaring and obvious omission, namely, an accolade for nailing all the GMs. Everyone knows its fun to hunt these guys down and there are enough of them to warrant an accolade.

So, I'd like to propose this. Add an accolade for which the criteria is defeating Adamastor, Babbage, Eochai, Jack, Jurassik, Kraken, the Kronos Titan, Lusca, Paladin and Sally. Give the accolade a power that reflects fighting all these nasty fellas--like a terror / fear / mez resist for two mins, usable every 1/2 hour or so.

I'd call it Shaytanah's Kiss after my quasi-demonic favorite toon, but I doubt that'll happen. :-) What do you all think?


 

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You forgot U'Kon Gr'ai.

Also, I'd omit Sally from that list just because she's a joke of a monster, not scary, and already has an accolade attached to her defeat.

If you REALLY want to make it epic.. add Hami to the list. haha

Also, to keep it fair.. provide one for Villain side also including Deathsurge, Caleb, Ghost of Scrapyard, Flyer, U'Kon Gr'ai.

Other than that, it sounds cool I guess.


 

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Kraken is not scary either. He looks too much like Grimace.



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Kraken is not scary either. He looks too much like Grimace.

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I'm not really against the idea of adding a new accolade to the game.
Especially one I'd probably get automatically on several characters.

But one point worth mentioning is if the Devs created a category oriented badge based on getting "all" of something it'd make it hard to handle what happens if any new versions of that thing were added to the game. Sure we may never get another new GM added at this point, but if we did it'd be weird for it -not- to be part of such a hardwired GM-based accolade.

Also Mateo_06 mentioned "fairness" with having a redside version of this accolade. But would it ever be fair when each side has different types and numbers of GMs to deal with. One side would always have an "easier" time getting this accolade than the other. This inequality between the sides and the existing accolades is already a sore point with many people.

Badges ideally should be based on specific unchanging requirements.
Letting a badge be vaguely based on defeating "all category X critters" could lead to problems later on.


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You forgot U'Kon Gr'ai.

Also, I'd omit Sally from that list just because she's a joke of a monster, not scary, and already has an accolade attached to her defeat.

If you REALLY want to make it epic.. add Hami to the list. haha

Also, to keep it fair.. provide one for Villain side also including Deathsurge, Caleb, Ghost of Scrapyard, Flyer, U'Kon Gr'ai.

Other than that, it sounds cool I guess.

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Sally gets fun when ten guys are all waiting around for her to spawn so they can get their second hit in :-) I left Hami off the list because, despite anything, Hami's in a category all its own!

I agree that a Vill version should be made as well, but as I'm less experienced with the red side I leave its details to those better informed!


 

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But one point worth mentioning is if the Devs created a category oriented badge based on getting "all" of something it'd make it hard to handle what happens if any new versions of that thing were added to the game. Sure we may never get another new GM added at this point, but if we did it'd be weird for it -not- to be part of such a hardwired GM-based accolade.

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Well, in that sense, I wonder what will happen when Going Rogue comes out? Will AVs in Praetoria could towards that badge? BUt I don't think we'll get many GMs added at this point. I agree that if we did it would be odd tho.

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Also Mateo_06 mentioned "fairness" with having a redside version of this accolade. But would it ever be fair when each side has different types and numbers of GMs to deal with. One side would always have an "easier" time getting this accolade than the other. This inequality between the sides and the existing accolades is already a sore point with many people.

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One of the reasons I don't play red side as much is the simple fact that badge hunting is less fun there. I've always thought CoV needs a badge overhaul--more history badges for one!

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Badges ideally should be based on specific unchanging requirements.
Letting a badge be vaguely based on defeating "all category X critters" could lead to problems later on.

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Here, I cite the Praetorian Archvills. I'm crawling through a bloody long FB mish today just to get Anti-Matter.

Who knows....I agree there are potential porblems with this kind of accolade but nothing too severe so long as red side gets fairly done as well. At least it'd get GM hunts going easily :-)


 

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Interesting idea. The badge could be called Monster Slayer.


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well glad to see another player from NS we seem to be few and far between. While I would like to see this, with my experience vill side would make this accolade could be quite annoying to get.

The main reason is the arachnos flier. Also if you wanted to add to this Caleb can be a bit annoying to summon. But if they could make it level to both sides getting it, then I am all for it.


 

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Interesting idea. The badge could be called Monster Slayer.

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Already have Giant Slayer so something more unique might be in order.

To be somewhat thematic:
<font class="small">Code:[/color]<hr /><pre>
Hero Villian
Hamidon Hamidon (Hamidon)
Lusca Ghost of Scrapyarder (Natural)
Adamastor Caleb (Magic)
Jurassik Deathsurge (Mutant)
U'kon U'kon (Tech)
Babbage Flyer (Science)
</pre><hr />

Badge Name:
From Chaos Comes Order : You have riegned in giant monsters from all different sources, granting you a gimpse into to the chaotic void of creation.
Power:
Chaotic Blessing:
This power grants the user one of the following powers for 60 seconds and can be used once every 30 minutes.
+50% Recharge
+100% Regen
+100% Recovery
+10% Resistance
+10% Defence
+25% HPs
+25% Endurance


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Interesting idea. The badge could be called Monster Slayer.

[/ QUOTE ]How about the Cobalt Badge?

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Basing this on a fixed list of "origin oriented" GMs is a good stab at this. I also like your idea of the random nature of the accolade power. But your proposal doesn't really capture the "defeat all GMs" flavor I think Shaytanah was going for. Also a power like you describe is perhaps too powerful for defeating only a few of the possible GMs out there.

I think instead of creating a blueside version of this accolade based directly on defeating GMs A, B and/or C and a redside version based on defeating GMs X, Y and/or Z there should be just one new accolade badge created -after- Going Rogue comes out based on having the following badges:

Believer
Clockstopper
Devilfish
Knight Errant
Frozen Fury
Giant Killer
Hallow Spirit
Hammer Down
Heat Seeker
Hellbane
Iron Warrior
Keeper of Secrets
Master at Arms
Master of Olympus
Pumpkin King
Surging
The Solution
Unleasher

This list is basically all of the current GM related badges for both sides. While Hamidon is technically a "giant monster" there is no badge for it because the Devs have said they consider it to be "too hard/unique" to link to a badge. This explains why there isn't a badge for the Rikti drop ships either. Because the Devs don't want to give Hami his own badge I don't think he should be part of this new accolade either.

This single version badge idea would solve most of the problems I mentioned. There'd be no question of "red/blueside fairness" and basing it on a hardwired list of badges instead of GMs minimizes the awkwardness that might arise if more GMs are added to the game. The badge would no longer be based on the concept of defeating GMs it would be based, like most accolades, on an unchanging set of current badges (which in this case happen to be related to GMs).


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This would be a fun accolade. I would like to see it, both hero and villainside versions.


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Since you're on the topic of Giant Monsters... any chance the devs can throw us villains a new Giant Monster or two?


 

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Since you're on the topic of Giant Monsters... any chance the devs can throw us villains a new Giant Monster or two?

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That was kind of my point of making this accolade apply globally AFTER Going Rogue happens. Once the game allows characters to switch sides then anyone can defeat the combined GM population of both sides equally and fairly.


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Basing this on a fixed list of "origin oriented" GMs is a good stab at this. I also like your idea of the random nature of the accolade power. But your proposal doesn't really capture the "defeat all GMs" flavor I think Shaytanah was going for. Also a power like you describe is perhaps too powerful for defeating only a few of the possible GMs out there.

I think instead of creating a blueside version of this accolade based directly on defeating GMs A, B and/or C and a redside version based on defeating GMs X, Y and/or Z there should be just one new accolade badge created -after- Going Rogue comes out based on having the following badges:

Believer
Clockstopper
Devilfish
Knight Errant
Frozen Fury
Giant Killer
Hallow Spirit
Hammer Down
Heat Seeker
Hellbane
Iron Warrior
Keeper of Secrets
Master at Arms
Master of Olympus
Pumpkin King
Surging
The Solution
Unleasher


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I love this, and it really aims at what I was going for. I'd love to see the Devs adopt this!


 

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Badge Name:
From Chaos Comes Order : You have riegned in giant monsters from all different sources, granting you a gimpse into to the chaotic void of creation.
Power:
Chaotic Blessing:
This power grants the user one of the following powers for 60 seconds and can be used once every 30 minutes.
+50% Recharge
+100% Regen
+100% Recovery
+10% Resistance
+10% Defence
+25% HPs
+25% Endurance

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In my opinion, I think the power should be either a self regen buff (since one of the big things that makes GMs strong is their regen, you have learned their secrets) or a clicky regen debuff (you have learned the weaknesses of many GMs)

Edit for detail: There are no accolades that currently give +regen, so that could work, the one you have up there would be insanely overpowered. Either that or the regen debuff which would be great at making other ATs (melee) feel more useful when fighting AVs/GMs. Either a 500% regen self buff for self for 60 seconds or single target 500% regen debuff to foe for 60 seconds, both recharge in 30 minutes(base)


 

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Since you're on the topic of Giant Monsters... any chance the devs can throw us villains a new Giant Monster or two?

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That was kind of my point of making this accolade apply globally AFTER Going Rogue happens. Once the game allows characters to switch sides then anyone can defeat the combined GM population of both sides equally and fairly.

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I'll /unsign that.

An accolade, any accolade should not require side switching. Those of us who are more story driven should not be placed into a position of choose between a specific accolade (especially a cool one) or maintaining character integrity.

There is a reason all accolade type powers are achievable on either side, and this shoudl remain the case.



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How about have it as an accolade that requires any 4 GMs to defeat. I would have suggested 5, but some villains don't go after U'Kon Grai and others don't go after Flyer. It might be interesting if the accolade became more powerful with the more GMs you defeat, but villains would be screwed over.


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An accolade, any accolade should not require side switching. Those of us who are more story driven should not be placed into a position of choose between a specific accolade (especially a cool one) or maintaining character integrity.

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I certainly see your point, and agree, but I bet there will be an accolade or two that relates to new content--especially in the grey areas.

They'd better add some new badges, since the number of MA badges I'm gonna lose is turning my badge [censored] into a merely promiscuous love of shiny things.