Give Trap of the Hunter Purple IO set bonuses
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ClawsandEffect,
Posted on: 2009-05-26 23:24 in Suggestions and Ideas
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And see if then people will actually want it.
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/signed for lol.
Meh, it's a funny idea, but we already have a purple immobilize set.
I don't want to make it a purple immobilize set, I want to leave it exactly as it is except it will have the same set bonuses as purple sets do.
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I don't want to make it a purple immobilize set, I want to leave it exactly as it is except it will have the same set bonuses as purple sets do.
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You might as well ask for the devs to actually do this to all of the rare but unpopular IO sets out there. The purple sets are potent not just because they've got higher enhancement values. They're potent because you get more bang for your buck from the set bonuses, which may or may not be useful at all considering some IO sets (Toxic resist? really?).
Something else to consider is that the devs would also need to make the IO set unique in order to prevent players from getting a load of the set bonuses. That's another balance consideration involving the Purple IO sets that you don't mention.
Nah, I'm sure it'll be fine.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
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I use trap of the hunter...
Jay Doherty: Yes, there was this one night that I was ready to go home but had to drop the browns off at the super bowl before I left for home. While on the throne it hit me. I stayed for a few more hours and that why we have the pain pads in the game.
No you don't. You just THINK you do. That's the real Trap of the Hunter; thinking it would be worth anything.
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I like the accuracy and ranged defense bonuses. I would complain about people calling it "Crap of the Hunter" all the time, but it just means I can get the entire set for cheap. 
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While it's tangental -
Why don't we give all those sets with "debt reduction" bonuses something else to go with them at that same set spot? I'd say replace, but you know someone's actually worried about debt (for some bizarre reason) and wants those bonuses. Probably. Maybe.
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While it's tangental -
Why don't we give all those sets with "debt reduction" bonuses something else to go with them at that same set spot? I'd say replace, but you know someone's actually worried about debt (for some bizarre reason) and wants those bonuses. Probably. Maybe.
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I actually have a habit of avoiding sets with debt reduction in them, if I can help it. It's such a waste of a Set bonus, that I'd rather have 1.83% Fire and Cold resistance then 10% Debt Protection.
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I like the accuracy and ranged defense bonuses. I would complain about people calling it "Crap of the Hunter" all the time, but it just means I can get the entire set for cheap.
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My mind controller is up to like 45 or 55 % +acc now i think.
Jay Doherty: Yes, there was this one night that I was ready to go home but had to drop the browns off at the super bowl before I left for home. While on the throne it hit me. I stayed for a few more hours and that why we have the pain pads in the game.
Mind doesn't even GET immobilizes. Or slows. I forget what Trap of the Hunter actually does.
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Mind doesn't even GET immobilizes. Or slows. I forget what Trap of the Hunter actually does.
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* Two enhancements improves the duration of your Immobilize effects by 5%.
* Three enhancements increases maximum Health by 1.88%.
* Four enhancements improves the Accuracy of all your powers by 9%.
* Five enhancements reduces the duration of Hold effects on you by 2.75%.
* Six enhancements increases Ranged Defense by 3.13%.
* Six enhancements increases Energy and Negative Energy Defense by 1.565%.
Okay, but Mind still doesn't have any powers you could slot it into.
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Mind may not. But what if his Mind 'troller is Mind/TA? There's at least one immobilize in there. I'm sure there are more ways than that of slotting that set as a Mind controller.
It just depends on what ELSE he has.
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My Robot/Traps MM has Trap of the hunter in Web Grenade. I find it humorous to defeat foes with it. Chance of lethal damage can come in handy.
There I was between a rock and a hard place. Then I thought, "What am I doing on this side of the rock?"
i checked last night and there is an "immob" in TA but it doesnt take sets.
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i checked last night and there is an "immob" in TA but it doesnt take sets.
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o.O
Just looked on my Nin/TA MM - Entangling Arrow - allowed sets: Slow, Immobilize.
What he probably meant is that you can't put Trap of the Hunter in it, because the power refuses to associate with such trash.
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What he probably meant is that you can't put Trap of the Hunter in it, because the power refuses to associate with such trash.
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Rare Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Rech
Rare Enemy drops (Pool A) End/Immob
Mission drops (Pool B) Acc/End
Mission drops (Pool B) Immob/Acc
Task Force drops (Pool C) Acc/Immob/Rech
Task Force drops (Pool C) Chance for Lethal Damage Proc
Which part, precisely, is trash? What non-purple Immob set outshines it? The only other one for the same range is Enfeebled Operation:
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Rech
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) End/Immob
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/End
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Immob/Range
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Immob/Rech
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Immob
which, set-piece-wise is exactly the same, except for giving up a little immob and range on TotH for the proc. And immobs tend to stack quickly without really needing duration.
The main reason I'd say it has such a bad rep is that two of them were task force drops - again, compare to EO which is all pool A - so people were seeing them instead of others (say, Numina's or Miracle) that they wanted. Yes, Immob/Acc is less useful to more people than a +Recovery or +Recov/Regen. But the set as a whole, for one with a proc? Throw it in an AOE Immob, where the recharge and END reduction, plus the proc, come in handy.
No, it's not a top set, but it's not as bad as, say, Calibrated Accuracy, which goes overboard on Acc leaving everything else just *weak.*
(For reference: )
Calibrated Accuracy 20-50
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Dam
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/End
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Int
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Range
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Rech
Uncommon Enemy drops (Pool A) Acc/Dam/Rech
*That* is a useless set, other than for frankenslotting. Of course, they're all pool A as well, so nobody complains about getting them as (formerly) a TF reward or TF roll.
Now, if you want to say pull TotH out of the TF pool - or just leave the proc in - I have no argument. As mentioned, I'm pretty sure *that* is where it got its "trash" reputaiton. But the set isn't really any worse than its counterpart in the same range - and as mentioned, with the chance for lethal in an AOE immob, *potentially* more useful.
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Mind may not. But what if his Mind 'troller is Mind/TA? There's at least one immobilize in there. I'm sure there are more ways than that of slotting that set as a Mind controller.
It just depends on what ELSE he has.
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Actually its not. I slot the Traps in my Grav/ff. I just forgot what i had slotted.
Jay Doherty: Yes, there was this one night that I was ready to go home but had to drop the browns off at the super bowl before I left for home. While on the throne it hit me. I stayed for a few more hours and that why we have the pain pads in the game.
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And see if then people will actually want it.
[/ QUOTE ]You've never tried to buy it, have you? Trap of the Hunter offers a 9% accuracy bonus and a biiiig chunk of ranged defence. It has a good proc and offers, generally, good enhancement bonuses.
No, it's not going to give you twenty million inf when you get it. But I've paid hundreds of thousands for pieces of that set because, unlike Enfeebled Operation, chunks of it are actually rare. And most people vendor the damn set.
And see if then people will actually want it.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
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