Increase the Publishing Limit Beyond 3


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So I have had my face buried in the AE story development for a month or so since the Issue 14 release. Some people on Champion may realize this because of me not being as active but busy writing the 10 story arcs I completed. Finally I went to publish 1. Successful. Publish 2. Successful. Publish 3. Successful. But then I hit to Publish for the fourth story and then I get I'm at my limit. This hurts like HELL! So I sent a petition and they sent me here to the message boards. So I'm starting this thread because I think it's better for me to start a new rather than search these threads.

So the big question here is will I ever be able to publish more than 3? AE is great. Especially for me with all my ideas and story writing. I've had game ideas since I was 13 which is a project I wish to fulfill til this day. City of Heroes has been a great outlet letting me play with my avators through your cityscapes and stories. AE is even better because I am not limited with the space of Create a Character, leveling, and being that character. So much bigs on the whole system. I hear you got an award which is well deserved. But my creative bug has been stomped by 3 publishing rights for my account.

Now this isn't stopping my writing because I got atleast 50 more stories I wish to publish and I am halfway through 6 incomplete ones after my 10 completes. But the fact is I have all this and I can only publish 3. I have stories surrounding the City of Heroes/Villains timeline and characters that link to vampires (my Vampire Nation), to the gods and heroes of Egyptian / Greek / Roman / Norse mythology, to Atlantis, to werewolves, to the future of Paragon City with the Ouroborus, and so on all within this entire 50 story arc series I have outlined.

With all this I'm working on I cannot log in to keep being a guide to whom ever I find to witness these stories. And they are pretty decent ones. This is no three little pigs mess. I have archvillains of CoH / CoV clashing with Titans, Vampire Lords, Werewolves, and Olympians. So being able to publish will allow me to do my Real Life activity while people enjoy what I have.

Solution:
If you guys haven't addressed this issue yet, I suggest putting it on your to do plans. Please. With the next update can you add some unlockable Publishing Rights to purchase in the AE Ticket store or even Unlockable Publishing Slots like you do with Create a Character in which I pay. Either way you got me with this AE and I am a fiend to produce more. I am willing to blow my pockets an extra mile to publish more. But that might just be me speaking. Whatever you do, please let me know and please do it soon (preferably in Issue 15 release).

Your loyal customer since September 2004.

Plug: And to anyone interested in my stories look for my global Vampire Lord when they make the name search capability in Issue 15.


 

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Wait, you wrote 10 arcs before you realized there was a 3-arc limit?

Dude, I'm trying to be sympathetic, but I don't know how the devs could have made the limit any clearer. And requesting more arc slots is like the #1 request (or possibly #2, behind increasing the 100k limit per arc), so I have to say, starting a new thread on the topic is unlikely to be very useful.


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They were scared down in their holes
The forest that once was green
Was colored black by those killing machines

 

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Dude I did. And I'm not stopping in anticipation that they do increase and resolve the issue. Writing this stuff is what I do.

I can understand the file size limit because the story being too large can crash. Them fixing that could take a year or two with increasing bandwith, Internet connection speed, and so much more.

But the limitation on arcs loses me. I'm guessing they need to save server space but getting more server space isn't that complicated and making people pay for more arc permissions would limit the accessiveness of wasting space on their servers.


 

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Stories that are really good have the potential of earning Developer's Choice honors. Such arcs get saved to the servers, so they no longer take up one of your available slots. Hall of Fame arcs are supposed to be treated similarly, but both methods have problems at the moment. They should be more ... stable ... with the next Issue.

A lot of folks cycle their completed arcs, moving them into and out of those three slots as appropriate. Some even activate secondary accounts, to get additional publishing slots.

There has been talk of ways to obtain new publishing slots. I've heard mention of purchasing new slots with cash and/or with tickets in the past. I'd also like to see a few extra slots tied to existing Veteran Rewards. But I've not seen any real official news on the matter.


 

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I had a feeling the Developer's Choice would allow more room as well as the other Developer rating arcs. But in my case it wouldn't be enough. At least what you said sounds like something on the right track. I barely get on the forum since I get mixed in with a lot of stuff so it is hard to keep track and surpising with the 3 limitation. I had to write something because this publishing thing is really important to me.

Cycling would be complicated with as many stories I have as well and would cause a player to miss a previous story (they are all linked.) And of course I cannot make up Flashbacks and would not have the time to keep logging in to be a guide.

That Veteran Rewards idea sounds great as well. Would save me a buck if and when they decide to make you pay for Publishing Slots. Thanks for the notice.


 

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when they make the name search capability in Issue 15.

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You can already search for arcs by Title, Author Global Name, Arc ID#, and any words in the Summary Info/Description.


You can have people play all of your story's by emailing the files to them, or uploading them somewhere that people can download them from. Then they publish and play, or play in test mode, and switch out stories as they go. The downside to this, is that you do not get ratings/tickets for it, and getting feedback is a little more complicated.


 

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many people want more than 3 slots - but once they allow it they can't go back.

they really need to see how the use shakes out. I would assume that most players lose interest in making arcs. Maybe they will decide we can publish more.

I'm suspecting they will let us buy more slots, like buying more character slots.


 

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YOU my friend are a GENIUS! I have plenty of web hosting space to have people download the files. Well maybe. Not sure I have enough with the bulk of stories that I have. But I got space I know that. Yeah that is a cool concept. Thanks a lot.

Big downside on them being test AE stories. That would mean they would really want to do it for the story and game play only. But with all the battles I worked out. They wouldn't be bored. Especially with some of my stories like Return of the Titans. I got archvillains escaping from Tartarus on one map then capturing the Titans throughout the rest.


 

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I figured I put out my outline so folks can have an idea what I'm working with and probably how much money CoH will make if they make me pay for story arc publishing slots.

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Issue 1 – City of Vampires

1) Enter the Vampire Nation [Neutral – contact: Montague Castanella]


2) Lord of the Underworld: Return of the King [Hero – contact: Drake]
3) Grimm Strike Force [Villain – contact: Lilith]


4) Vampire Nation Task Force [Hero – contact: Osiris]
5) Ferryman’s Payoff [Villain – contact: Charon]


6) Where Vampires Come From [Hero – contact: Issac Van Helsing]
7) Lord Recluse Wants Vampires [Villain – contact: Hecate]


8) Rune of Power [Hero – contact: Kane]
9) Venator Noctis Strike Force [Villain – contact: Set]


10) Unveil the Path of the Dark [Neutral – contact: Mender Lazarus]



Issue 2 – Legend of Heroes: Greek Mythology


11) Underworld Task Force: Vampires vs Werewolves [Hero – contact: Hades]
12) Escape from Tartarus [Villain – contact: Maeljin]


13) Return of the Titans [Neutral – contact: Osiris / Athena]


14) Vampires Walk Amongst Us [Hero – contact: Montague Castanella]
15) Grimm Industries Releases Power Fusion [Villain – contact: Countess Crey]


16) Vampire Nation vs Venator Noctis [Hero – contact: Drake]
17) Vampires and Ninjas [Villain – contact: Set]


18) Twilight of the Heroes [Hero – contact: Statesman]
19) Twilight of the Villains [Villain – contact: Lord Recluse]


20) Rise of Atlantis: Independence Port [Hero – contact: Countess Crey]
21) Rise of Atlantis: Port Oakes [Villain – contact: Jonathan Grimm]


22) Paragon Argonauts: Saviors of Zeus [Hero – contact: Athena]
23) Return of Kronos the Controller of Time [Villain – contact: Lazarus]


24) Order of Dracul [Hero – contact: Kane]
25) Legend of Heroes: Ancient Greece [Villain – contact: Ares]


26) Vampire Mender Lazarus is the Time Lord [Neutral – contact: Osiris]



Issue 3 – Quantum Leap to Chaos


27) Golden Giza is the Quantum Time Station [Neutral – contact: Mender Silos]


28) Princes of Darkness [Hero – contact: Dragon of Shangri-La]
29) The Vampires of Egypt [Villain – contact: Maeljin]


30) The First Pharaoh of Ancient Egypt [Hero – contact: Narmer]
31) The Legions of the Vampire Lord [Villain – contact: Tesseract]


32) The Battle for Mt. Olympus [Hero – contact: Athena]
33) Enter the Path of the Dark [Villain – contact: Arakhn]


34) Hades Rules the Underworld [Hero – contact: Zeus]
35) Twilight of the Asgardians: Ragnorok [Villain – contact: Loki]


36) The Odyssey Retold [Hero – contact: Odysseus]
37) Twilight of Atlanteans: Sinking Atlantis [Villain – contact: Ares]


38) Unleash the Titans [Hero – contact: Penelope]
39) Twilight of the Underworld: Vampire Extermination [Villain – contact: Loki]


40) Rome Has a Vampire Lord [Hero – contact: Twilight]
41) Twilight of the Olympians: Battle on Mt. Olympus [Villain – contact: Loki]


42) Transylvania: Vampires vs the Path [Hero – contact: Jonathan Harker]
43) The Vampires of the Pirate Ship Lilith [Villain – contact: Jonathan Grimm]


44) The Horsemen of Chaos [Neutral – contact: Mender Silos]


45) Here Comes Chaos! [Neutral – contact: Time Lord Lazarus]



Issue 4 – City of Women


46) The Ancient Cabal [Neutral – contact: Montague Castanella]


47) Wraith of Circe [Hero – contact: Athena]
48) Solar Guard: Vampire Domination [Villain – contact: Isaac Van Helsing]


49) Vampires vs the Oni [Hero – contact: Kane]
50) Order of Medusula [Villain – contact: Python]


51) Helsing Return: Mysteries of England [Hero – contact: Tesseract]
52) Venator Noctis vs Archanos [Villain – contact: Ghost Widow]


53) Amazons on Paragon City [Hero – contact: Athena]
54) Return of the Bacchae [Villain – contact: Ghost Widow]


55) Ragnorok on Paragon City [Hero – contact: Silos]
56) Hell on Earth: Siblings of Hellfire [Villain – contact: Jonathan Grimm]


57) Gift of Hera: Wonder Women [Neutral – contact: Athena]



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The first 3 I published. The first 10 I have completed. The next 6 I currently plugged the characters and maps just not the text.


 

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Check out Fearghas in the MA Stories area. He's doing a long serialization that people like so much that other folks are donating publishing slots.


 

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I think the publishing limit should be based upon number of missions, not slots. Let's say you make it 6 or 12 total missions...


 

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You seem to be a very prolific MA creator, I'll giver you that! I will also say that no matter how perfect you think each idea is, being forced to drop some in favor of others is a great editor who'll force you to tighten up your existing work and overall probably make it better.

It's worked that way for me at least. I have two arcs already out (see sig) and I'm seriously kicking around about three more ideas. It makes me panic a bit too, but on the other hand it forces me to weight each idea and achievability of each against the other - and we all win when that happens. I get more plays and stars and a rep for a good arc, you get more fun playing what I created.

Don't get me wrong, I realize the chance exists that everything you're doing and want to do is solid gold, but it may not be and I'd like to have my gold in discrete nuggets, panned and sifted, rather than coming to me in a bucketful of sand from the river bottom.


 

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I figured I put out my outline so folks can have an idea what I'm working with and probably how much money CoH will make if they make me pay for story arc publishing slots.

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Issue 1 – City of Vampires

1) Enter the Vampire Nation [Neutral – contact: Montague Castanella]


2) Lord of the Underworld: Return of the King [Hero – contact: Drake]
3) Grimm Strike Force [Villain – contact: Lilith]


4) Vampire Nation Task Force [Hero – contact: Osiris]
5) Ferryman’s Payoff [Villain – contact: Charon]


6) Where Vampires Come From [Hero – contact: Issac Van Helsing]
7) Lord Recluse Wants Vampires [Villain – contact: Hecate]


8) Rune of Power [Hero – contact: Kane]
9) Venator Noctis Strike Force [Villain – contact: Set]


10) Unveil the Path of the Dark [Neutral – contact: Mender Lazarus]



Issue 2 – Legend of Heroes: Greek Mythology


11) Underworld Task Force: Vampires vs Werewolves [Hero – contact: Hades]
12) Escape from Tartarus [Villain – contact: Maeljin]


13) Return of the Titans [Neutral – contact: Osiris / Athena]


14) Vampires Walk Amongst Us [Hero – contact: Montague Castanella]
15) Grimm Industries Releases Power Fusion [Villain – contact: Countess Crey]


16) Vampire Nation vs Venator Noctis [Hero – contact: Drake]
17) Vampires and Ninjas [Villain – contact: Set]


18) Twilight of the Heroes [Hero – contact: Statesman]
19) Twilight of the Villains [Villain – contact: Lord Recluse]


20) Rise of Atlantis: Independence Port [Hero – contact: Countess Crey]
21) Rise of Atlantis: Port Oakes [Villain – contact: Jonathan Grimm]


22) Paragon Argonauts: Saviors of Zeus [Hero – contact: Athena]
23) Return of Kronos the Controller of Time [Villain – contact: Lazarus]


24) Order of Dracul [Hero – contact: Kane]
25) Legend of Heroes: Ancient Greece [Villain – contact: Ares]


26) Vampire Mender Lazarus is the Time Lord [Neutral – contact: Osiris]



Issue 3 – Quantum Leap to Chaos


27) Golden Giza is the Quantum Time Station [Neutral – contact: Mender Silos]


28) Princes of Darkness [Hero – contact: Dragon of Shangri-La]
29) The Vampires of Egypt [Villain – contact: Maeljin]


30) The First Pharaoh of Ancient Egypt [Hero – contact: Narmer]
31) The Legions of the Vampire Lord [Villain – contact: Tesseract]


32) The Battle for Mt. Olympus [Hero – contact: Athena]
33) Enter the Path of the Dark [Villain – contact: Arakhn]


34) Hades Rules the Underworld [Hero – contact: Zeus]
35) Twilight of the Asgardians: Ragnorok [Villain – contact: Loki]


36) The Odyssey Retold [Hero – contact: Odysseus]
37) Twilight of Atlanteans: Sinking Atlantis [Villain – contact: Ares]


38) Unleash the Titans [Hero – contact: Penelope]
39) Twilight of the Underworld: Vampire Extermination [Villain – contact: Loki]


40) Rome Has a Vampire Lord [Hero – contact: Twilight]
41) Twilight of the Olympians: Battle on Mt. Olympus [Villain – contact: Loki]


42) Transylvania: Vampires vs the Path [Hero – contact: Jonathan Harker]
43) The Vampires of the Pirate Ship Lilith [Villain – contact: Jonathan Grimm]


44) The Horsemen of Chaos [Neutral – contact: Mender Silos]


45) Here Comes Chaos! [Neutral – contact: Time Lord Lazarus]



Issue 4 – City of Women


46) The Ancient Cabal [Neutral – contact: Montague Castanella]


47) Wraith of Circe [Hero – contact: Athena]
48) Solar Guard: Vampire Domination [Villain – contact: Isaac Van Helsing]


49) Vampires vs the Oni [Hero – contact: Kane]
50) Order of Medusula [Villain – contact: Python]


51) Helsing Return: Mysteries of England [Hero – contact: Tesseract]
52) Venator Noctis vs Archanos [Villain – contact: Ghost Widow]


53) Amazons on Paragon City [Hero – contact: Athena]
54) Return of the Bacchae [Villain – contact: Ghost Widow]


55) Ragnorok on Paragon City [Hero – contact: Silos]
56) Hell on Earth: Siblings of Hellfire [Villain – contact: Jonathan Grimm]


57) Gift of Hera: Wonder Women [Neutral – contact: Athena]



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The first 3 I published. The first 10 I have completed. The next 6 I currently plugged the characters and maps just not the text.

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Okay, I really want to play this. Since searching for "Vampire Lord" will probably turn up a bunch of stuff, as both words are commonly used, can you provide arc numbers for the three you've published?


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I think that there's room for them to find a way to expand the number of slots but it will always be bumped up against server space and resources. I'm pretty sure that in a few months they'll roll out some unlockable additional slots that will be earned by people who are making arcs people are playing.

The problem of course is that if they put TOO much incentive to have your arc played it will devolve into the Debacle that was "The Movies Online" where people were doing everything to get a movie watched to earn points to buy more content for the game. If you wanted to use a stagecoach in a movie, you had to post a movie that got enough hits to earn you the points to buy it.

I see that as a potential downside to this user created 'thing'.

Mr. O


 

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Okay, I really want to play this. Since searching for "Vampire Lord" will probably turn up a bunch of stuff, as both words are commonly used, can you provide arc numbers for the three you've published?

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Vampire Lord worked for a search. Gets some extra arcs, but looking for orange on the Author field made it fast to find.

When I looked, I think there was one total play. I even went so far as reading the contact dialogs. I think 3 arc slots is a very good idea. It's a great way for people to cut their teeth, learn about the audience here, get feedback on things like exceedingly dull text.

I've got one published single mission arc. Five or six that I fleshed out on paper and tossed away. Another three or four that I made into longer arcs in MA and found that they weren't that fun or interesting enough to publish. And maybe another five or six I'm forming up. I predict one of these will make it out as a published arc.


 

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Okay, I really want to play this. Since searching for "Vampire Lord" will probably turn up a bunch of stuff, as both words are commonly used, can you provide arc numbers for the three you've published?

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It doesn't bring up as many arcs as you might think. As CrazyCorsaire mentioned, just look for orange in the Author field and they're easy to spot; all three were clumped together when I looked for them.


 

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Also, I believe you can put the plus sign (+) in front of each word, forcing it to show only Arcs that contain both words. Likewise, you can use the minus sign (-) to exclude Arcs containing that word (ie, +cat -girl). I am not sure if searching for phrases has been implemented yet or not.

Vampire Lord - Let us know when/where you host your Arcs. In the meantime, I will check out the ones you have published.

Regards.