Blatant Rumor or Starling Lie?


DanZero

 

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I've heard a tell or two that the old 'perma' in the 'perma' is going to vanish. I hate to even break open a can of forum spittle on this one, but I've finally gotten my dom half way to 50 and my stupid little plan could drop into an even stupider puddle of crud water if this is true.

Anyone else hearing this or were the seven or so badflies on Pinnacle kinda losing focus?


 

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I think its a silly rumor. The devs have already stated in older posts that the goal for the upcoming Dom improvements included the desire to not affect anyone who had achieved perma-domination very severely, if at all.

Lewis


Random AT Generation!
"I remember... the Alamo." -- Pee-wee Herman
"Oh don't worry. I always leave things to the last moment." -- The Doctor
"Telescopes are time machines." -- Carl Sagan

 

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Thanks. Just looking for a little bandaid for my fragile gamke psyche.


 

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Nope. they are not nerfing perma doms. Infact, they are getting a slight buff, as far as I know only the people who used double-tripple stacked dom will suffer (even if only a tiny bit.) And it won't matter cause now non perma doms will be getting as much damage as a perma dom would.


 

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Nope. they are not nerfing perma doms. Infact, they are getting a slight buff, as far as I know only the people who used double-tripple stacked dom will suffer (even if only a tiny bit.) And it won't matter cause now non perma doms will be getting as much damage as a perma dom would.

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We do have to Caveat that these proposed changes ae not guaranteed to go live. They have to be tested first. Something may occur in the testing environment that could grind this to a halt. These changes haven't been approved to go live, only for testing!


My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi

 

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RiverOcean,

On the other hand, once it makes it to the test server, 99% of the time it goes live. That is because the test server is to find defects/bugs and not intended to try theories. It usually takes a monumental game-breaking whoopsie for the patch to NOT go from test to live, once it hits test. I'm not saying they wont tweak it, I'm just saying once you see it on test in COX, its gonna hit live. Usually.

Lewis
/QA in a less interesting job then COX


Random AT Generation!
"I remember... the Alamo." -- Pee-wee Herman
"Oh don't worry. I always leave things to the last moment." -- The Doctor
"Telescopes are time machines." -- Carl Sagan

 

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RiverOcean,

On the other hand, once it makes it to the test server, 99% of the time it goes live. That is because the test server is to find defects/bugs and not intended to try theories. It usually takes a monumental game-breaking whoopsie for the patch to NOT go from test to live, once it hits test. I'm not saying they wont tweak it, I'm just saying once you see it on test in COX, its gonna hit live. Usually.

Lewis
/QA in a less interesting job then COX

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Scaling Assassin strike for Stalkers while it looked good on paper, turned out to be terribly broken and never made it live. It took awhile and lots of testing before the current stalker changes made it live. Also if I recall correctly the first proposed changes to Defiance, didn't make it on the first dry run either. We also don't know what else is included in Castles changes, there may be a wild card in this set of buffs.

These changes are "proposed" until its actually in a patch going to the live server, all bets are off.


My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi

 

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I've heard a tell or two that the old 'perma' in the 'perma' is going to vanish. I hate to even break open a can of forum spittle on this one, but I've finally gotten my dom half way to 50 and my stupid little plan could drop into an even stupider puddle of crud water if this is true.

Anyone else hearing this or were the seven or so badflies on Pinnacle kinda losing focus?

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In a way it is, it may be a matter of semantics. The old Perma damage in Perma dom is going away, and in exchange you are getting a base damage buff that nets to an overall buff and the equivalent* of a Damage Buff cap increase.

I love teassing people in game.

Me: Did you see the changes Castle is proposing for dominators?
Others: What is he nerfing?
Me: He is removing the damage buff from Domination.
Others: @#$@!$%
Me: And increasing the base damage to make them have that same damage 24/7
Others: (o.O)? WOW


 

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Me: Did you see the changes Castle is proposing for dominators?
Others: What is he nerfing?
Me: He is removing the damage buff from Domination.
Others: @#$@!$%


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This is how I inform my fellow Virtuee's of upcoming changes.


 

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Scaling Assassin strike for Stalkers while it looked good on paper, turned out to be terribly broken and never made it live. It took awhile and lots of testing before the current stalker changes made it live. Also if I recall correctly the first proposed changes to Defiance, didn't make it on the first dry run either. We also don't know what else is included in Castles changes, there may be a wild card in this set of buffs.

These changes are "proposed" until its actually in a patch going to the live server, all bets are off.

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Of course. You are technically correct. But compared to the thousands of changes, large and small, that made it to test, easily over 99% go to live once on test.

So yes, absolutely, there is no guarantee, but there is a 99% chance. That's all I'm saying. With odds like that, I assume that if those numbers hit test, they will hit live. Even if I end up being wrong, I'll continue to post the same opinion about other changes.

I'm seriously not being argumentative here. Only conversational.

Lewis


Random AT Generation!
"I remember... the Alamo." -- Pee-wee Herman
"Oh don't worry. I always leave things to the last moment." -- The Doctor
"Telescopes are time machines." -- Carl Sagan

 

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The fundamental idea that, "oh hey, the gulf between dominators with permadom and all the other dominators is too wide" is obviously one they intend to address. I'm pleasantly surprised that they seem to want to do it by buffing more pedestrian dominators, rather than nerfing the high end ones.

Given that, the mechanics of the i15 changes aren't that important to me.


@Dysc, on virtue:
Virtue blues: Overnight (DP/MM), Kid Ridiculous (FC/rad), Panorama (Ill/time)
Virtue reds: Block Party (SS/SD), Goldcrush (earth/fire), Deadwire (claws/elec), Snowcrush (ice/kin)

 

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Gonna be funny when you all STILL cant play doms worth a doo doo

Op, so far all thats proposed is a base damage "buff".The rest is pure conjecture.


 

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Scaling Assassin strike for Stalkers while it looked good on paper, turned out to be terribly broken and never made it live. It took awhile and lots of testing before the current stalker changes made it live. Also if I recall correctly the first proposed changes to Defiance, didn't make it on the first dry run either. We also don't know what else is included in Castles changes, there may be a wild card in this set of buffs.

These changes are "proposed" until its actually in a patch going to the live server, all bets are off.

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Of course. You are technically correct. But compared to the thousands of changes, large and small, that made it to test, easily over 99% go to live once on test.

So yes, absolutely, there is no guarantee, but there is a 99% chance. That's all I'm saying. With odds like that, I assume that if those numbers hit test, they will hit live. Even if I end up being wrong, I'll continue to post the same opinion about other changes.

I'm seriously not being argumentative here. Only conversational.

Lewis

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Another thing to think about is the defiance/stalker changes we're alot more than just removing a dmg buff out of an inherit and putting that into the AT modifiers, If i recall correctly there we're multiple changes for the stalker buffs in particular.

IMO this change is a bit less sweeping. The big change here is non-domination doms' performance is going to go up quite a bit. Essentially taking the can of mountain dew from the top shelf of the fridge and putting it on the lower shelf, sure that means easier access, and it may cool better, but its not like your shoving it in the freezer and checking back on it a week later (dont try that at home kids).


 

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Gonna be funny when you all STILL cant play doms worth a doo doo

Op, so far all thats proposed is a base damage "buff".The rest is pure conjecture.

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I play my dom just fine. Admittedly, playing my dom consists of spamming Earth's Wall-O-Holds and Psychic Shockwave over and over and over, but it does kill things dead. Eventually.