Issue 15 Wishlist: More Power Sets!
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Posted on: 2009-04-28 24:58 in Suggestions and Ideas
I submit "Animal taming" and "Clones" for the MM primaries.
That is all.
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I submit "Animal taming" and "Clones" for the MM primaries.
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I highly doubt either of those will happen. Animal Taming isn't likely because it would require construction of entirely new skeletons and suites of animations. Clones isn't going to happen without power customization because there's no current way for an MM to control/modify the appearance of their pets.
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Animal Taming isn't likely because it would require construction of entirely new skeletons and suites of animations.
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Wah wah wah. It's been five years. Bite the bullet and give us cats and dogs. =P
That aside, Posi mentioned in an interview I15 was supposed to be content-focused, so I'd more expect base improvements, new zones, and the like. If there are "new" sets, they'll probably be proliferations.
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Animal Taming isn't likely because it would require construction of entirely new skeletons and suites of animations.
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Wah wah wah. It's been five years. Bite the bullet and give us cats and dogs. =P
That aside, Posi mentioned in an interview I15 was supposed to be content-focused, so I'd more expect base improvements, new zones, and the like. If there are "new" sets, they'll probably be proliferations.
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I 14 was all about AE, and that was it. Don't get me wrong, I like AE and I like the things that are coming. The 5th were always one of my favorite villain groups, but I see no reason why we can't get a couple different power sets for those that are seriously lacking. I pointed out the MM and the Dom based on pure numbers, not because I favor the red-side. I just want to see more variety, and I think that having more power sets is not me asking for additional ATs. These are much easier to do.
It'd be more likely at this point to ask for this in Issue 16, as Issue 15's list has already been announced and we can reasonably suspect given the title (Anniversary), that it's due out soon.
Other then that, carry on. :3
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Bear in mind, Positron has gone live and said that, when they packaged and got ready to promote Issue 15, it went sort of like this:
"What's ready to go now? Jay? Costumes and faces? Great! Put 'em in. Castle? Proliferation not ready? Okay, Issue 16. BAB? The costume change emotes are done? Put 'em in. Pohsyb, Ghost Falcon? MA improvements are done? Put 'em in. War Witch, Hero 1? The 5th Column Task Forces ready to go? Good job, put 'em in!"
Since they really wanted to get an Issue 15 out for the "Fifth..." Anniversary, they took what was ready and called it an issue. I strongly suspect that Issue 15 will go into closed Beta on May 12th, Open Beta on May 27th, and Live on June 3rd.
That being said, they are working on expanding Powerset options and making new Powersets, just don't expect them in Issue 15. Issue 13 gave us Shield Defense and Pain Domination. and those were in development for quite a long time (granted, Shields took longer because of all the animation work).
Reasonable, thematic sets that I would expect to see eventually:
Blasters
Proliferated: Radiation Blast, Dark Blast, Radiation Manipulation, Dark Manipulation.
New: Spikes (Spines / Darts / Thorns / Whatever you want to call them, I believe between Thorny Assualt, the Blood Widow Primary, and Spines, there are enough Ranged attacks to cobble together a set, but as the looks of the powers are not truly compatible, the amount of animations and powers work required would probably just shy of making a new set), Pistols, Energy Rifle, Earth Blast, Radiant (or Light) Blast, Energy Pistols, Chemical Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Radiance
Controllers
Proliferated: Dark Miamsa, Poison (maybe renamed and themed to Alchemy or Chemistry in the same way Empathy was renamed and themed into Pain domination), Cold Domination, Traps
New: Electric Control, Gadget Control, Dark Control, Temporal Control, Temporal Manipulation
Defenders
Proliferated: Traps, Poison, Thermal Radiation, Assault Rifle, Fire Blast
New: Temporal Manipulation, Pistols, Spikes, Energy Rifle, Energy Pistols, Earth Blast, Radiant Blast
Scrappers
Proliferated: Energy Melee, Super Strength, Electric Melee, Stone Melee, Battle Axe, War Mace, Icy Melee, Energy Aura, Electric Armor, Stone Armor, Ice Armor, Ninjutsu
New: Psychic Blades, Staff Fighting, Street Fighting, Radiation Melee (Caustic Combat or Withering Melee maybe? I hate the name Radiation Melee), Force Shield
Tankers
Proliferated: Electric Armor, Energy Aura, Regeneration, Super Reflexes, Ninjutsu(?), Broadsword, Spines, Martial Arts, Electric Melee, Claws, Katana.
New: Psychic Blades, Staff Fighting, Street Fighting, Radiation Melee, Force Shield
Brutes
Proliferated: Spines, Claws, Broadsword, Icy Melee, Katana, Martial Arts, Regeneration, Ice Armor, Ninjutsu(?)
New: Psychic Blades, Staff Fighting, Street Fighting, Radiation Melee, Force Shield
Corruptors
Proliferated: Archery, Psychic blast, Poison, Force Field
New: Temporal Manipulation, Pistols, Spikes, Energy Rifle, Energy Pistols, Earth Blast, Radiant Blast
Dominators
Proliferated: (Dark) Illusion, Dark Assault, Earthen Assault
New: Electric Control, Dark Control, Gadget Control, Temporal Control, Temporal Assault
Masterminds
Proliferated: Sonic Resonance, Kinetcs, Radiation Emission, Cold Domination, Thermal Radiation
New: Demons, Clowns (Carnies), Pirates, Clones, Illusions, Elementals, Temporal Manipulation
Stalkers
Proliferated: Broadsword, Stone Melee, Fiery Melee, Super Strength, Icy Melee, Stone Armor, Fiery Aura, Invulnerability, Ice Armor
New: Psychic Blades, Staff Fighting, Street Fighting, Radiation Melee, Force Shield
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I'm not sure if he was 100% serious but in an interview with Posi posted on the European forums, he hinted that Demon Summoning and Dual Pistols were on their way (but almost certainly for i16, not i15).
Freedom: Blazing Larb, Fiery Fulcrum, Sardan Reborn, Arctic-Frenzy, Wasabi Sam, Mr Smashtastic.
When I said "clones" I didn't mean clones of you. I just meant clones.
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When I said "clones" I didn't mean clones of you. I just meant clones.
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Then how would that be "clones"? Just have all of the enemies look exactly the same? Doesn't really have much of the "clones" favor people would look for, especially since "clones" as you're implying could simply be roleplayed quite easily without needing a new powerset. The problem I see with the masterminds is that it's kind of hard to develop the sets without getting hyper-specific, and, to complicate matters, the archetypal super-villain minions are mostly covered already. Any extras they add are going to start being more and more origin specific.
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cats and dogs. =P
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living together?
Positron's i13 letter: We are trying to make PvP more accessible to new players, while giving experienced PvP'ers the advantage that comes with formulating tactics around the new systems we're putting in place. PvP from now on will be on our priority list. If something isn't working out, we'll be in there tweaking it and making it work, for the entire future of the product, not just Issue 13.
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I submit "Animal taming" and "Clones" for the MM primaries.
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I highly doubt either of those will happen. Animal Taming isn't likely because it would require construction of entirely new skeletons and suites of animations. Clones isn't going to happen without power customization because there's no current way for an MM to control/modify the appearance of their pets.
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Fine.
Then I'll suggest Vikings, Pirates, Clowns and um......Mind-controlled Longbow. 
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cats and dogs. =P
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living together?
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Mass Hysteria!!
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Mastermind has only FIVE primary power choices
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Dominators are also tied with blasters for the least amount of secondaries. These two, if any other AT, need some more variety.
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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Mastermind has only FIVE primary power choices
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Dominators are also tied with blasters for the least amount of secondaries. These two, if any other AT, need some more variety.
[/ QUOTE ]Mastermind primaries are also unique to the AT; Dominator and Blaster secondaries are also unique to their respective ATs. This is why there are so much fewer of those kinds of sets.
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I don't buy this argument. Just because something is unique doesn't mean it should be neglected.
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Mastermind has only FIVE primary power choices
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Dominators are also tied with blasters for the least amount of secondaries. These two, if any other AT, need some more variety.
[/ QUOTE ]Mastermind primaries are also unique to the AT; Dominator and Blaster secondaries are also unique to their respective ATs. This is why there are so much fewer of those kinds of sets.
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I don't buy this argument. Just because something is unique doesn't mean it should be neglected.
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Because it's unique means that it's less "bang" for each time investment "buck". Unique powersets are like that. It's also the reason why some ATs get thematically and visually strange power sets (Dual Blades on Tankers and Brutes?).
Small request to have Street Fighting be called Fist Fighting.
Reason: Whenever I hear Street Fighting, I automatically think of Ryu and Ken tossing out hadoken and shoryuken.
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Mastermind has only FIVE primary power choices
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Dominators are also tied with blasters for the least amount of secondaries. These two, if any other AT, need some more variety.
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I don't buy this argument. Just because something is unique doesn't mean it should be neglected.
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Then how about it costs 2-3 times more developer time to create and test a new set (which is what Mastermind primaries and to a lesser extent Blaster and Dominator secondaries would be - new sets with a handful of powers copied over for Masterminds, and sets made up entirely out of other powers [that have to be tested to make sure that they do, indeed, work correctly and well in the chosen combination]) then it does to just copy and adjust one to the AT in question?
Example: Assault Rifle going to Defenders? No work required at all, direct port. Just adjust powers a little as needed. Same with Trick Arrow for Corrupters, or Broadsword for Brutes (more tweaking there, I'd imagine).
Mental Manipulation for Blasters? Major project in comparison to balance it properly. Even Psionic Blast got adjusted heavily for Blasters. Electric Assault? Another major project to create it, compared to the above examples. New Mastermind set? Three powers from other sets, and 2 that are 'standard'.. plus 4 new powers (3 pets that need to have their OWN powers tested and configured) that need to be created from scratch.
EDIT: Added Masterminds.
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Small request to have Street Fighting be called Fist Fighting.
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How about "Brawling"?
Since most business plans would make you believe they have i15 and 16 set in stone with manpower and budget, I doubt we'll see any of these changes until i17 :/
BUT I like these :P
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Blasters
Proliferated: Radiation Blast, Dark Blast, Radiation Manipulation, Dark Manipulation.
New: Spikes (Spines / Darts / Thorns / Whatever you want to call them, I believe between Thorny Assualt, the Blood Widow Primary, and Spines, there are enough Ranged attacks to cobble together a set, but as the looks of the powers are not truly compatible, the amount of animations and powers work required would probably just shy of making a new set), Pistols, Energy Rifle, Earth Blast, Radiant (or Light) Blast, Energy Pistols, Chemical Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Radiance
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I have suggested powersets for both Ninjutsu and Chi Manipulation (kung-fu) as secondaries.
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Controllers
Proliferated: Dark Miamsa, Poison (maybe renamed and themed to Alchemy or Chemistry in the same way Empathy was renamed and themed into Pain domination), Cold Domination, Traps
New: Electric Control, Gadget Control, Dark Control, Temporal Control, Temporal Manipulation
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A version of Metal Control that would pass copyright-infringement muster would be lovely.
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Defenders
Proliferated: Traps, Poison, Thermal Radiation, Assault Rifle, Fire Blast
New: Temporal Manipulation, Pistols, Spikes, Energy Rifle, Energy Pistols, Earth Blast, Radiant Blast
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Again, I have a Probability suggestion that might work, too.
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Scrappers
Proliferated: Energy Melee, Super Strength, Electric Melee, Stone Melee, Battle Axe, War Mace, Icy Melee, Energy Aura, Electric Armor, Stone Armor, Ice Armor, Ninjutsu
New: Psychic Blades, Staff Fighting, Street Fighting, Radiation Melee (Caustic Combat or Withering Melee maybe? I hate the name Radiation Melee), Force Shield
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I would prefer Psychic Melee over the more specific Blades, but otherwise agree.
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Tankers
Proliferated: Electric Armor, Energy Aura, Regeneration, Super Reflexes, Ninjutsu(?), Broadsword, Spines, Martial Arts, Electric Melee, Claws, Katana.
New: Psychic Blades, Staff Fighting, Street Fighting, Radiation Melee, Force Shield
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I'd like to see a Polearm or Spear Fighting set, maybe something lighter/quicker for Scrappers/Stalkers and something heavy for Tankers/Brutes.
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Brutes
Proliferated: Spines, Claws, Broadsword, Icy Melee, Katana, Martial Arts, Regeneration, Ice Armor, Ninjutsu(?)
New: Psychic Blades, Staff Fighting, Street Fighting, Radiation Melee, Force Shield
Corruptors
Proliferated: Archery, Psychic blast, Poison, Force Field
New: Temporal Manipulation, Pistols, Spikes, Energy Rifle, Energy Pistols, Earth Blast, Radiant Blast
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What about Trick Arrow being proliferated?
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Dominators
Proliferated: (Dark) Illusion, Dark Assault, Earthen Assault
New: Electric Control, Dark Control, Gadget Control, Temporal Control, Temporal Assault
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I would also advocate Blade Assault, that I made a while back. A Mace Assault (using the Arachnos melee/ranged weapon) might also be nice, along with Ninja Assault (Martial Arts mixed with either Archery or shurikens) and Radiation Assault (or call it Atomic Assault).
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Masterminds
Proliferated: Sonic Resonance, Kinetcs, Radiation Emission, Cold Domination, Thermal Radiation
New: Demons, Clowns (Carnies), Pirates, Clones, Illusions, Elementals, Temporal Manipulation
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Really need to see both Plants and Thought Control as primaries, along with Energy Support as a secondary.
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Stalkers
Proliferated: Broadsword, Stone Melee, Fiery Melee, Super Strength, Icy Melee, Stone Armor, Fiery Aura, Invulnerability, Ice Armor
New: Psychic Blades, Staff Fighting, Street Fighting, Radiation Melee, Force Shield
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I have a Gadget Suit out there, too.
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Please something new!!!!!
Pistols we already have with the masterminds.. ok.. so you add it to blasters...
Demon Summoning - Once again it is already in the game with Infernal..
5 years of this game.. We need something cool that is not currently in WOW... =)
MORE POWER SETS!
Yes, that's my wish. Sure all that other stuff you guys announced seem cool, esp the faces costume addition, but can we please get more power options?
Let's recap the power choices:
- Blasters: 8 Primaries ; 6 Secondaries
- Controller: 7 Primaries ; 8 Secondaries
- Defender: 9 Primaries ; 8 Secondaries
- Scrapper: 8 Primaries ; 7 Secondaries
- Tanker: 7 Primaries ; 9 Secondaries
- Brute: 9 Primaries ; 9 Secondaries
- Corruptor: 8 Primaries ; 9 Secondaries
- Stalker: 8 Primaries ; 7 Secondaries
- Dominator: 6 Primaries ; 6 Secondaries
- Mastermind: 5 Primaries ; 7 Secondaries
Note, the Mastermind has only FIVE primary power choices, with the dominator coming close behind with six. Dominators are also tied with blasters for the least amount of secondaries. These two, if any other AT, need some more variety.
Sure, CoX has more variety than any other game out there. It's what makes this game so unique and diverse. Why not add to that diversity?