Which type of slots are you talking about?
and then rebalancing would need to be done to the powers..... use the search function. this has been discussed numerous times.
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Didn't Castle say yesterday there would not be more slots for powers?
Again, which type of slots is the OP talking about? If he's asking for more costume slots, fine. /signed. Character slots, uuuhhhhhh, I don't really see a need but fine, whatever, /signed. Power slots? /jranger :P
I was talking about Power Slots. There is a need for more slot and this is one way to do it that could be fun and rewarding for players.
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Didn't Castle say yesterday there would not be more slots for powers?
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Essentially. He may have meant "from levels" given where he said it, but it would be a bit optimistic to suppose so.
Anyway, in regards to the OP: I had a similar thought.
without trying to be rude, stop slotting brawl and rest and sprint. they dont need it. and try not to 6 slot powers. 5 is more then enough. also look into getting io sets as you only really need 5 of a set and the bonuses make up for whatever you may be lacking.
and first thing to do is download mids hero designer so you can plan your builds out before you actualy make them.
Hey Sharker, can you do me a favor and find the last three ideas you agreed to, or at least posted on and didn't try to shoot down? Just curious for Bayesian purposes.
jack, this has nothing to do with what i agree with or what i dont. this has to do with the fact that we don't need anymore slots. if people are picking up a power at 49 that requires more then the 4 slots then they need to rethink their build and take the power that doesn't require 5 slots at 49 and the power that does require it earlier.
more slots would require balancing all the powers again. but ill let bill come in with his sticky for this.
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and then rebalancing would need to be done to the powers..... use the search function. this has been discussed numerous times.
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There's no need for rebalancing. Rebalancing is a just your way of saying I don't like this idea. This post is not about lets do it at the cost of our sets, enhancements, ect. It's simply about gaining a few more slots that we can all earn through an accolade(s). This topic is not a debate about rebalancing.
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without trying to be rude, stop slotting brawl and rest and sprint. they dont need it. and try not to 6 slot powers. 5 is more then enough. also look into getting io sets as you only really need 5 of a set and the bonuses make up for whatever you may be lacking.
and first thing to do is download mids hero designer so you can plan your builds out before you actualy make them.
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I very familiar with mid's and I know how to slot effectively. Regardless, with just a few more slots I can say without a doubt that everyones characters would benefit from this. If you don't like it that's your opinion and that's fine, but don't fill up my posts with blind accusations. That IS rude!
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also look into getting io sets as you only really need 5 of a set
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ok flash.... give me 1 reason other then because everybody wants it. that is your opinion and not a valid reason to add this to the game. my toons are fine. i dont need more slots. in fact some of my toons have a hard time trying to figure out where to put some of the slots.
so again i ask, give me one reason, other then everybody wants this(speculation) or because it would be cool.
More slots allows for more enhancements.
The issue with more slots is the devs seem to think we are strong enough.
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The issue with more slots is the devs seem to think we are strong enough.
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This. And didn't the Devs recently mention something about adding some sort of Universal Enhancement Slots to toons? Thought that I heard something...
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It was in some survey. I forget how they work.
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jack, this has nothing to do with what i agree with or what i dont. this has to do with the fact that we don't need <thing i disagree with>
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So you'd say the reason you disagree with everything is because you're perfectly satisfied with the game as it is, and any changes to it would necessarily weaken it?
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so again i ask, give me one reason, other then everybody wants this(speculation) or because it would be cool.
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What the hell other kind of reason is there? I mean, the same argument would've excluded Villains entirely from the game.
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and then rebalancing would need to be done to the powers..... use the search function. this has been discussed numerous times.
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There's no need for rebalancing. Rebalancing is a just your way of saying I don't like this idea.
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No, it isn't. It would have to come into consideration when it comes to "How powerful are the characters, and is the game challenging enough?" Being able to heavily slot even more characters, even balanced around SOs, means overall power adjustment because they have to take that into consideration.
Right now, with Hamis, IOs, and what can be done with them, we already can go well beyond what's possible with SOs (which is the point the game is balanced *at.*
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... actually, no, not everyone's can. Some of my characters could use them, sure. Others... I'm throwing slots *away* because I don't need them. It's not universally true that everyone needs them.
With all that said -
As a *direct* idea, I'd say we can already get more from the slots we have, again with HOs and multiaspect IOs - frankenslotting can give you a *lot* from a few slots.
However, another idea that's been brought up on occasion (I want to say even a dev mentioned it, but don't hold me to that) are a sort of "universal slot" - you can earn a very limited number of these, that would affect all (relevant) powers to some degree, adding (say) damage, recharge, accuracy, overall endurance reduction and the like. They wouldn't, of course, be as powerful as the IO slotted directly into the power, but it would be boosting everything.
That may be a better way to go, as it's easier to look at overall, and instead of "a" slot here or there, it boosts everything.
(Edit: APparently I'm not the only one who remembers that mention.)
Just a thought.
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Essentially. He may have meant "from levels" given where he said it, but it would be a bit optimistic to suppose so.
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What he actually meant was that no more of these could be given in any way, shape or form, so any new levels couldn't include giving them. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing four or five slots at level 50, just to make it a little more unique, but that's as far as I'm willing to stretch this, because we ARE already overpowered.
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The issue with more slots is the devs seem to think we are strong enough.
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This. And didn't the Devs recently mention something about adding some sort of Universal Enhancement Slots to toons? Thought that I heard something...
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It was from a player survey that was sent out to some players back in August. Here's the relevant text:
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Accomplishments will lead to rewards that will significantly distinguish level 50 characters from one another.One such reward is the Universal Enhancement Slots. Ten Universal Enhancement Slots are available to be earned in the expansion, and each one has the potential of adding significant power to the character, essentially bringing them to a hypothetical "Level 60" once they have earned all ten slots.
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Keep in mind that it was a survey trying to assess player demand for LOTS of different major enhancements to the game, so there's no guarantee that we'll ever see Universal Enhancement slots. But I think that's perhaps what Castle was alluding to the other day when he said that they don't plan on increasing the level cap but "We do have some tricks up our sleeves, but they don't involve changing the level cap."
Note that in that same post he explicitly said that they will not allow "more slots to allocate". That could be interpreted that they've now changed their minds on Universal Enhancement Slots or instead (as I interpret it) that they see UES's as a new aspect, distinct from slots you allocate.
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... actually, no, not everyone's can. Some of my characters could use them, sure. Others... I'm throwing slots *away* because I don't need them. It's not universally true that everyone needs them.
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What you replied to didn't say everyone needs them, he said every would benefit. Which is true. How much benefit will vary, but more slots would make your powers better.
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Too much of a good thing is never a good thing. Just adding more slots runs the risk of allowing players to slot all their powers, at the same time negating the meaning of slot placement choice the game-over and overpowering characters in such a way that's impossible to make up by altering the environment, even if such a thing were even practical to begin with.
So, no, not everyone would benefit. I'd wager that the balancing and rebalancing which would be required for something like this to exist would hurt far more than it would actually benefit, and most of the people hurt would be those who need more slots to begin with - the people who don't optimize enough.
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How, if I don't need them, would I benefit from it?
If I don't need them, no, they wouldn't "make my powers better." They'd be wasted on those characters. Just like the current ones are. Therefore, they would be of no benefit to me. They won't benefit me financially in game, since I can't sell them to someone who could. They won't benefit me enhancement wise, because I don't need them. They would be a detriment during respeccing, because I now have *more* slots to shuffle away somewhere when everything's filled up that I need filled up.
Those would benefit me roughly as much as someone suffering from sunstroke would benefit from more sun. So, no, I would not benefit, and no, they would not make the powers on that character "better."
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How, if I don't need them, would I benefit from it?
If I don't need them, no, they wouldn't "make my powers better." They'd be wasted on those characters. Just like the current ones are. Therefore, they would be of no benefit to me. They won't benefit me financially in game, since I can't sell them to someone who could. They won't benefit me enhancement wise, because I don't need them. They would be a detriment during respeccing, because I now have *more* slots to shuffle away somewhere when everything's filled up that I need filled up.
Those would benefit me roughly as much as someone suffering from sunstroke would benefit from more sun. So, no, I would not benefit, and no, they would not make the powers on that character "better."
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That's the beauty of making it an accolade so that if you don't want them because you don't need them then you don't have to get them.
Everyone wants more power slot but there's always a big debate on how we should get them. I propose that they be given to us in the form of an accolade(s). That's fair! Players who want additional slots will have to earn them like anything else. I can see this working because the Devs like us to earn our keep rather then just expecting it to be handed to us. Feel free to sign this post if you agree (Devs included).