Yea....i was the one who helped test this....i hope a red name reads this....why they cant find a happy medium instead of overdoing things i don't know. Defense as it stands now is garbage on test....just like before.
Haha wow. Thanks for the info guys. A few weeks ago I predicted this would happen. It's not rocket science. When a dev team has overnerfed in EVERY SINGLE CASE in the history of the game, chances are, they will do it again. Looks like I was right.
Gotta feel bad for people that specifically rolled new defense toons with I13.
At least the rad thing is kinda good. Debuffs did need to become stronger, considering they're so easy to knock off.
GREAT. Just what I wanted to hear.
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i13 comes. Def rules. Everyone makes defense toons and some people actually level them WITHOUT PLing them. For about a month or 2 you have fun with your def toon in pvp zone. 1 month later, NERF. Time to roll another toon.
They are trying to keep pvp'rs playing their game! They have to keep rolling new toons not to be gimp, so they have no reason to quit cause they are so busy leveling their soon to be nerfed toons!!!
yeah and 35% to hit a rad while debuffed is too low considering PFF is now 50/50 chance and you cant attack like rads can through through PFF. I think it should be 50% for hitting a rad as well, otherwise alot of Ice/rads are gonna be back and dueling will become redundant again... being slowed and you cant hit.
P.S AS got buffed.
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P.S AS got buffed.
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Really? In what way? And awesome, btw.
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P.S AS got buffed.
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Really? In what way? And awesome, btw.
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It's no longer unresistable.
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This is actually some kinda rumor that has been rolling around. Divine had heard this too so we tested it. The second packet of damage in AS (the greater one) is actually unresisted on live currently. We tested on live and test. The first packet of damage is resisted and the second unresisted. My target used oranges in the test to confirm this to be the case.
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Really? In what way? And awesome, btw.
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My fully IOed ice/rad good again ?!
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My fully IOed ice/rad good again ?!
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...as of last night im accolading my good old dark/cold.
focused acc + self heal + -to-hit + kb + massive -def = oh this is gonna be fun.
guess i'm gutting my sr brute after i14...
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Huh? How is that a buff?
Err I meant resistible. Still, AS is lol and you're better off trowing Spines and Sharks.
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only under DR.
under no DR an AS will easily hit for 700 pts.
so basically, stalkers need the DR on damage lifted just a bit higher.
Yeah but no DR is retard pvp, squishies running around with capped resists is just stupid.
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O and thanks for the testing info. Its good to see I'll be able to use my rad/psi. Has anyone tested slow debuff and -recharge?
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...as of last night im accolading my good old dark/cold.
focused acc + self heal + -to-hit + kb + massive -def = oh this is gonna be fun.
guess i'm gutting my sr brute after i14...
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Or you could stick to droning like you typically do. That will never be nerfed.
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focused acc + self heal + -to-hit + kb + massive -def = oh this is gonna be fun.
guess i'm gutting my sr brute after i14...
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Or you could stick to droning like you typically do. That will never be nerfed.
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i dont "typically" drone.
i do drone.
but not typically.
basically i drone about 1/200th of my playtime at most.
l2choosewordsbaddo.
also:
drone 'em.
The tp res IO's are going to make TP foe pretty useless. I understand that it give you a Chance too resist but if you get both the res and the def set ones....TP foe is moot. It will take time for everyone to get them so i figure it will take time for TP to phase out...but this time next year LOL @ TP Foe. Oh yea...EA and Elec now have their tp res back. To bad they [censored] Defense back to nothing so lol EA is back...and elec is probaly one of the worse res sets for brutes. So meh.
for that 1/200 to be true, you're going to have to go on a regular-play binge to make up for the hours you spent droning yesterday in RV.
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for that 1/200 to be true, you're going to have to go on a regular-play binge to make up for the hours you spent droning yesterday in RV.
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In his defense (and I don't even know who he is), I'm pretty sure that getting TP droned in RV is more fun than the actual PvP that happens there.
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for that 1/200 to be true, you're going to have to go on a regular-play binge to make up for the hours you spent droning yesterday in RV.
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Gotta love the people that sit around, waiting for the opportunity to TP+drone when that time could have been spent improving toons for regular PvP play.
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well should've seen this one coming from a mile away. It was an obvious thing that was going to be nerfed, def based toon or not.
Hint: when you and ya buddies are playing on certain build that is almost or is unkillable, by anyother build, and more and mopre keep popping up with added brags of how uber they are, the writing is on the wall. Gotta be beyond blind to see this one not coming.
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Ya but 95% to hit with no outside buffs? Vs a toon that spends its entire secondary on defense? What happened to the concept of elusivity? They just decide to 'cancel' it? At least if you're resist its almost impossible for a single person to take away all of your resist with a debuff. Defense needed a nerf but come on that is way overboard.
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well should've seen this one coming from a mile away. It was an obvious thing that was going to be nerfed, def based toon or not.
Hint: when you and ya buddies are playing on certain build that is almost or is unkillable, by anyother build, and more and mopre keep popping up with added brags of how uber they are, the writing is on the wall. Gotta be beyond blind to see this one not coming.
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i14 Testing Update:
Def debuffs now remove a great deal more def than before. Vs a ice epic shield blaster my lift power needed 70% chance to hit. After a Poison Ray hit I had a 95% chance to hit. 95%??? Why do the devs always overdue everything? I ran another test with my stalker vs a EA brute. Tactics BU Assassin Strike. 95% chance to hit. So def went from being the best to going right back to being terrible where it was prior to i13 lol.
PFF Finally got to test this vs multiple toons. Vs a blaster with tactics 57% global acc and a 92% acc slotting in the same attack he popped BU Aim and needed a 49.84% chance to hit. My dominator was running both shields CJ and Mnvrs. This is better than I had hoped. It would appear that stacking +to hit is close to pointless. The same situation tested earlier vs that stalker with just BU 100% acc AS and 50% global acc resulted in 48% chance to hit. I was expecting that a blaster could get into the mid to high 60% range so this is good to see thats not the case.
PFF vs a rad was VERY interesting. 45% global acc 95% acc in power rad debuff on me he needed 43% chance to hit. This is big as he's not on a 10 sec timer like the blaster was at his good chance to hit. Popping Aim the rad went up to a whopping 54% chance to hit.
-Acc in Rad increased HUGE in i14. My hold is slotted 101% acc with 45% global acc and +17% to hit from tactics kismet. 95% chance to hit without his debuff 35% chance to hit with it on me. Holy crap! If I used Poison Ray on him my chance to hit jumps to 78%.
Big changes incoming. Looks like defense is out and debuffs are now king. Welcome to the new i14.