Attention comic artists to be.... *DELETED*

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The Red Phantom needs your help. His adventures (in web comic forum) has been languishing in the limbo where left socks disappear to and where lint comes from.

Since the beginning of 2008, I have gone thru 2 artists (one was a Steve Ditko/Jack Kirby wanna-be, the other was a pretentious, artistically inconsistent smug [censored]) and have spent the last few months seeking out artists who can do it all and do panels to no avail.

First, let me say this is non-paying. Unless you count good karma. You will get credit obviously. Eventually I plan to have the comic published and distributed at comic-cons and local stores.

Second... Well there really isn't any 2 part. If you have any questions about the Red Phantom, please feel to contact me.

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Non-paying work that eventually "may" get published and distributed is pretty much lawyer material and a hard sell to artists.
I would draw up a contract for your own and your freelance help's own protection.

Ive done the "in good faith" and "for good karma" thing several times and gotten burned, bad - i.e. doing work and getting no kill-fee for your time if the project goes belly up or having your e-mails and calls ignored if sales become brisk.

You likewise can get taken to the cleaners if you do end up publishing it with no contract when the artist comes after you for back-royalties.

Not to bust your crank or anything, but a lot of us have been there, done that and bought the t-shirt with writer/publishers in training who act like thier doing you a favor by offering you a non-paying gig - save yourself the headache and either draw up a contract or god-forbid; pay an artist for his/her time.

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Non-paying work that eventually "may" get published and distributed is pretty much lawyer material and a hard sell to artists.
I would draw up a contract for your own and your freelance help's own protection.

Ive done the "in good faith" and "for good karma" thing several times and gotten burned, bad - i.e. doing work and getting no kill-fee for your time if the project goes belly up or having your e-mails and calls ignored if sales become brisk.

You likewise can get taken to the cleaners if you do end up publishing it with no contract when the artist comes after you for back-royalties.

Not to bust your crank or anything, but a lot of us have been there, done that and bought the t-shirt with writer/publishers in training who act like thier doing you a favor by offering you a non-paying gig - save yourself the headache and either draw up a contract or god-forbid; pay an artist for his/her time.

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This.

Also, while we may not KNOW who these artists that you mention, dissing them publicly, even without naming them, gives a very non-professional vibe to artists that may have an inkling towards doing non-pay projects. I would have stated something more along the lines of: "While I've worked with artists in the past, things didn't work out as planned."

A lot of artists and writer duos need to have a good vibe going on. It's a team effort. I just finished up a professional non-pay job on a five page story because I really dug what the writer was doing, and he and I worked very well together. The same can be said for working with Arcana Comics back in Spring of this year, I had two very awesome people backing me up, and it made my life as an artist easier because not only did I believe in the project, but I had people who put faith in me to do a good job.

Right now, you're giving off a very frustrated, "I don't play well with others" vibe, and it's off-putting. Remember that if these two artists did work for you FOR FREE, that it's a gift, and regardless of how you parted ways, if a person puts in the time to help someone out without pay, then you need to be a bit more humble. That, my friend, is how you will find an artist that will work well with you.

OP, I'm not the greatest artist around, so maybe this won't be a loss to you, but going from you post... I wouldn't work with ya.

Sorry man, but for a NON PAYING JOB that you want done, you post left exactly the wrong taste in my mouth.

Better luck next time.

Comics are a lot of work, getting one for free isn't going to happen.

Save up some money, pay for an artist. Because you know, you get what you pay for, and if you're paying nothing, you'll get...

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