Guide to the Imperious Strike/Task Force
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Alexandria2000,
Posted on: 2008-05-15 24:15 in Player Guides
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Using Surveillance here are the Note how my Surveillance only took out from Base Defense but none of the typed values like it normally does. Also Surveillance did not subtract any Resistance from it, proving they are completely immune to Resistance debuffs as well.
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Do the Nictus enjoy the Purple Triangles? Do they have any Status Effect Resistance ? If not, it seems a single target sleep could seriously trivialize the encounter.
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They actually enjoy twice the ordinary purple triangle value. Plus, I believe they're entirely immune to resistance debuffs.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
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Using Surveillance here are the Note how my Surveillance only took out from Base Defense but none of the typed values like it normally does. Also Surveillance did not subtract any Resistance from it, proving they are completely immune to Resistance debuffs as well.
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Do the Nictus enjoy the Purple Triangles? Do they have any Status Effect Resistance ? If not, it seems a single target sleep could seriously trivialize the encounter.
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Purple Triangles don't protect against Sleep or Immobilize
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Using Surveillance here are the Note how my Surveillance only took out from Base Defense but none of the typed values like it normally does. Also Surveillance did not subtract any Resistance from it, proving they are completely immune to Resistance debuffs as well.
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Do the Nictus enjoy the Purple Triangles? Do they have any Status Effect Resistance ? If not, it seems a single target sleep could seriously trivialize the encounter.
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Purple Triangles don't protect against Sleep or Immobilize
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Anyhow when I tried the TF on my fire kin I spammed fire cages hoping it'd make it easier... Only Rom was affected.
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Do you consider the Imperious Task Force as harder or easier than...
1) The Statesman TF
2) The Recluse SF
3) The Lady Grey TF
I consider it easier than 1 and 2 and on par with 3. Is it a problem that it matches up with difficulty like that? Is my rating far from the general consenus?
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Harder than States TF and Lady Grey for sure.
States TF is a joke pretty much...the only problems are with Dr. Aeon and sometimes the AV pulls. Lady Grey is fine, problems sometimes occur at Hamidon and with The Honoree's Unstoppable.
It's easier than LRSF, that's for sure...now...I never run States or Recluse anymore unless I need an Accolade for a villain or a friend wants badges: too many tech rewards and the non-badge end results are lacking for a task of that magnitude.
Teams for ITF are very hit and miss for the most part. I just had a fantastic run wtih an Emp, 4 Blasters, an Ill/Rad a Necro/Dark and my Mind/Fire. WE just mopped the place up. I've had other runs without as much range that did poorly...
Questions about the game, either side? /t @Neuronia or @Neuronium, with your queries!
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Using Surveillance here are the Note how my Surveillance only took out from Base Defense but none of the typed values like it normally does. Also Surveillance did not subtract any Resistance from it, proving they are completely immune to Resistance debuffs as well.
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Do the Nictus enjoy the Purple Triangles? Do they have any Status Effect Resistance ? If not, it seems a single target sleep could seriously trivialize the encounter.
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Purple Triangles don't protect against Sleep or Immobilize
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Anyhow when I tried the TF on my fire kin I spammed fire cages hoping it'd make it easier... Only Rom was affected.
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Nictus don't have purple triangles they are simply superbuffed
P.S. Purple Triangles protect versus all status but immobilize and sleep for 50 mag.
Just as a point of curiosity, how to you get a mob's combat attributes? I've clicked on a mob and brought up the Powers - Combat attributes tab and received my own...
Questions about the game, either side? /t @Neuronia or @Neuronium, with your queries!
168760: A Death in the Gish. 3 missions, 1-14. Easy to solo.
Infinity Villains
Champion, Pinnacle, Virtue Heroes
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Just as a point of curiosity, how to you get a mob's combat attributes? I've clicked on a mob and brought up the Powers - Combat attributes tab and received my own...
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Be a Bane Spider and use Surveillance. It's a unique feature of that power.
Doom.
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This is really doom.
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Also Surveillance did not subtract any Resistance from it, proving they are completely immune to Resistance debuffs as well.
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Did you take a screenshot of the resistance values? They don't show in the posted screenshot.
And I agree with a previous poster, it looks like sleep could nullify the nicti, making the "shoot rom x4" strategy pretty straightforward.
And for a while things were cold,
They were scared down in their holes
The forest that once was green
Was colored black by those killing machines
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Also Surveillance did not subtract any Resistance from it, proving they are completely immune to Resistance debuffs as well.
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Did you take a screenshot of the resistance values? They don't show in the posted screenshot.
And I agree with a previous poster, it looks like sleep could nullify the nicti, making the "shoot rom x4" strategy pretty straightforward.
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Yes, assuming pets and AoEs don't muck that up.
I imagine witnessing first hand what happen when the sleep is cancelled (especially for the heal and the blaster) should be a good way to learn to let the sleeping dog (or nictus) lie. After all, people can learn not to AoE when the nictus are too close.
And I noticed Romulus has an unpleasant habit to jog his pain off, so it's good to know he can be immobilized decently easily.
On the sleep, what kind of retaliation can be expected when renewing the mesmerize ? Are the victims allowed a strike before getting back to their nap? If not, one mind troller or dominator might hold two or even three of the nictus. Otherwise I fear the retaliation might be too ugly. Someone has first hand info on this?
depends heavily on team composition:
if you have a tanker/brute that can taunt the spawn essences then sleep the mire essence first.
if you have a lot of ranged then sleep the Spawning essence first.
healing essence should always be 2nd or 3rd on the To-Sleep list.
I've done this 15 times now on live(5 fails in the beginning). My best method of finishing the nicti is dont aggro the AVs, target the healer(if your facing Romi , healer is on left) everyone with a range attack of 80 ft or more take out the healer. Once hes down and stun wears off we all rush romi 3 times. He drops stuff the nicti do not. Its been said before and there are many diff ways to do this, but I use this one and it works well for me.
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I've done this 15 times now on live(5 fails in the beginning). My best method of finishing the nicti is dont aggro the AVs, target the healer(if your facing Romi , healer is on left) everyone with a range attack of 80 ft or more take out the healer. Once hes down and stun wears off we all rush romi 3 times. He drops stuff the nicti do not. Its been said before and there are many diff ways to do this, but I use this one and it works well for me.
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You've done it 15 times wrong then.
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I've done this 15 times now on live(5 fails in the beginning). My best method of finishing the nicti is dont aggro the AVs, target the healer(if your facing Romi , healer is on left) everyone with a range attack of 80 ft or more take out the healer. Once hes down and stun wears off we all rush romi 3 times. He drops stuff the nicti do not. Its been said before and there are many diff ways to do this, but I use this one and it works well for me.
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You've done it 15 times wrong then.
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If it produces a win for the team then its not wrong. Perhaps not as efficient as some of the other methods posted, but it's not wrong.
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I've done this 15 times now on live(5 fails in the beginning). My best method of finishing the nicti is dont aggro the AVs, target the healer(if your facing Romi , healer is on left) everyone with a range attack of 80 ft or more take out the healer. Once hes down and stun wears off we all rush romi 3 times. He drops stuff the nicti do not. Its been said before and there are many diff ways to do this, but I use this one and it works well for me.
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You've done it 15 times wrong then.
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If it works- then it's right- which makes YOU wrong!!
"I'm not scared of anyone or anything Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?"
Jack Hawksmoor, The Authority.
First of all let me say that there are MANY different ways to beat the ITF and my way is in no way the best way, but it seems to work great for me.
I usually try to run it 6 strong to minimize boss spawns but have done it with both 6 and 8 and same results just takes a bit longer.
missions 1-2 are pretty cut and dry.
misson 3 we usually take out the 3 of 5 generals and while the DD's are working on the 4th I fly to the platform for the control panel and TP the team once the 4th general goes down. We take out the control panel then I pull the av's one at a time. I usually pull Rom first and when he's almost done I fly up and pull Requiem.
Now the 4th mission seems to be the big topic here so here's my way ond probably many others too of handling the BIG HOOPLA at the end.
Usually we herd all the Romans off the platform and lay waste to them. Then we pull BOTH EB's off the two sides and commence to wuppin on them. here's the fun part.
the FAR LEFT Nictus is the healing nictus we ALL beat on him ignoring ROM and the other two nictus til it's down, and then we move on to the next nictus and so on until only Romulus is left. then we take him DOWN without prejiduce(sp).
I've done it were we pulled the healing nictus away and it worked that way too but I find that it goes quicker the way i mentioned.
I run it dailey on Infinity and my personal best time is 1:10.
ran it twice Sunday with times being 1:13 and 1:15.
like I said my way or should I say the way I do it isn't the best way but it seems to work fine for me.
I run a lvl 50 Ice/Kin corruptor ( Freakin Rican )
and my bud runs his Stone/Stone Brute.
we usually fill the last 4-6 spots but it's usually him and I putting it together.
OH yeah im 30-30 on the ITF on Infinity.
If you play on Infinity and wish to run it send a tell
@ Freakin Rican (I'm always up for the ITF)
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Quick question...
How long is this TF?
How fast CAN it be done, and how long is your average run?
Keep in mind that it would be my first time running it...
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Fastest is 47min 17sec
Average is about 50min
Ran it 3 times on test, and 3 times on live. I suspect we'll get a sub 40min run now that some of the issues have been fixed w/ the 3rd mission map.
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that's not even close to realistic for a PuG or the average team.
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agreed
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I've done this 15 times now on live(5 fails in the beginning). My best method of finishing the nicti is dont aggro the AVs, target the healer(if your facing Romi , healer is on left) everyone with a range attack of 80 ft or more take out the healer. Once hes down and stun wears off we all rush romi 3 times. He drops stuff the nicti do not. Its been said before and there are many diff ways to do this, but I use this one and it works well for me.
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You've done it 15 times wrong then.
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If it works- then it's right- which makes YOU wrong!!
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Not when they are claiming their method that takes significantly longer and for far less rewards is the "Best" method. Killing Romulus 4 times and ignoring the nictus completely is shorter, more rewarding and far more efficient.
agreed. hypothetically speaking, if you takes you 6 hours to beat ITF, but hey, since you beat it, the strat you used must be valid, i'd have to disagree on that aspect.
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First of all let me say that there are MANY different ways to beat the ITF and my way is in no way the best way, but it seems to work great for me.
I usually try to run it 6 strong to minimize boss spawns but have done it with both 6 and 8 and same results just takes a bit longer.
missions 1-2 are pretty cut and dry.
misson 3 we usually take out the 3 of 5 generals and while the DD's are working on the 4th I fly to the platform for the control panel and TP the team once the 4th general goes down. We take out the control panel then I pull the av's one at a time. I usually pull Rom first and when he's almost done I fly up and pull Requiem.
Now the 4th mission seems to be the big topic here so here's my way ond probably many others too of handling the BIG HOOPLA at the end.
Usually we herd all the Romans off the platform and lay waste to them. Then we pull BOTH EB's off the two sides and commence to wuppin on them. here's the fun part.
the FAR LEFT Nictus is the healing nictus we ALL beat on him ignoring ROM and the other two nictus til it's down, and then we move on to the next nictus and so on until only Romulus is left. then we take him DOWN without prejiduce(sp).
I've done it were we pulled the healing nictus away and it worked that way too but I find that it goes quicker the way i mentioned.
I run it dailey on Infinity and my personal best time is 1:10.
ran it twice Sunday with times being 1:13 and 1:15.
like I said my way or should I say the way I do it isn't the best way but it seems to work fine for me.
I run a lvl 50 Ice/Kin corruptor ( Freakin Rican )
and my bud runs his Stone/Stone Brute.
we usually fill the last 4-6 spots but it's usually him and I putting it together.
OH yeah im 30-30 on the ITF on Infinity.
If you play on Infinity and wish to run it send a tell
@ Freakin Rican (I'm always up for the ITF)
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Well the thing about taking out the heal Nictus is that if your team doesnt have enough DPS to overcome its heal then its an endless fight. Also there is no payout for taking down a Nictus but there is a payout each time romulus drops.
I'm not saying your method of taking down the nictus one by one isn't a good one, but not every team is going to have the DPS needed. Now all ranged attackers can get out of range of it and still blast but you would still likely need at least one tank/brute at teh nictus keeping it taunted and pummeling it. If the healer only has up to 3 people in range to feed off of to heal itself then it's not too bad.
So far the speediest way my teams have won the ITF is to take down Romulus 4 times then mop up the remaining 300 kills, but again there is no one strategy for this TF.
Some of my own observations about Missions 1 to 3:
Mission 1: wipe out the cave of all Romans and free the 10 then head outside and immediately get to the mountaintop. There is no need to fight your way there, if need be have someone teleport you. Once topside just kill the Minotaur and his goons to free the Oracle and then have someone take her to the altar while the rest of the party deals with the remaining Romans.
Mission 2: There are two ways to do this mission:
Method A: Wipe out the guards at the Cyst Crystal, smash the crystal, wipe out the ambush, repeat process until all are done.
Method B: Wipe out the crystal guards, damage the Crystal but don't destroy it. Repeat the process until the map is empty of enemies and all crystals are damaged. Then each teammember gets to a crystal and all smash the crystals at once then exit the map. This way you can dodge the ambushes.
Mission 3: Wipe out the Ambush that attacks you at the door that way if someone has to hit the hospital they can reenter the mission safely. Try and keep Daedalus alive but if he goes down, no biggie. Some of the Generals do not need to have their goons killed with them for the kill to register as complete, so if you can just pull the General from his mob and take him down you just might speed up the battle. Also the hilltops can be your friend in this map as ambushes and patrols have a tough time climbing the hills. For the Generals in the narrow valley if someone can snipe them and get them near the hillside, they sometimes can make the jump to the hilltop, sometimes not. But you can still hop down by the hillside and kill the General and not aggro his mob, and if the kill registers as complete on the mission objectives then you don't need to kill his mob. Again, stick to the hilltops to get around the ambushes. Get to the clifftop above where Romulus and Requiem are, snipe one of them to pull them up there and defeat them then repeat the process on the remaining one. Then everyone flies, teleports, leaps to the bottom of the pit to smash the Phalanx controls.
Unbelievable. I joined a PuG with my 47 FIre/Rad cor and actually failed. The level of stupidity was astounding.
Our /Kin troller never SB'd anyone. I never asked for it. On the last mission he SBd Imperious and no one else. I asked him. He said "Imperious asked for it and no one else did." Well then... "may I have speed boost all the time please."
We had two blasters who could not focus fire on romulus.
The concept of "Shoot Romulus" Escaped the team.
The concept of "If you are a squishy don't stand in the AoE Nictus damage" escaped the team.
The concept of "Pull" escaped the team.
A 41 Dominator insisted we had to kill the Nictus first.
It was terrible. I stand by my claim that any competent team can accomplish this.
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It was terrible. I stand by my claim that any competent team can accomplish this.
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Any competent team that that has enough non-control damage mitigation (sleep being the exception on the control front). I've had a team or two that failed because our Support/Tanks dropped or D/Ced before the final encounter and we couldn't survive long enough to down Romulus even once, even with the break LoS strategies.
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I've done this 15 times now on live(5 fails in the beginning). My best method of finishing the nicti is dont aggro the AVs, target the healer(if your facing Romi , healer is on left) everyone with a range attack of 80 ft or more take out the healer. Once hes down and stun wears off we all rush romi 3 times. He drops stuff the nicti do not. Its been said before and there are many diff ways to do this, but I use this one and it works well for me.
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You've done it 15 times wrong then.
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If it works- then it's right- which makes YOU wrong!!
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Not when they are claiming their method that takes significantly longer and for far less rewards is the "Best" method. Killing Romulus 4 times and ignoring the nictus completely is shorter, more rewarding and far more efficient.
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Using Surveillance here are the Note how my Surveillance only took out from Base Defense but none of the typed values like it normally does. Also Surveillance did not subtract any Resistance from it, proving they are completely immune to Resistance debuffs as well.
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Do the Nictus enjoy the Purple Triangles? Do they have any Status Effect Resistance ? If not, it seems a single target sleep could seriously trivialize the encounter.