He's Dutch, Warface!
And even I can admit that, by human instinct, communism wouldn't work. However, I still admire and respect it. Most of the original reds were highly intelligent.
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Of course minus this man..........gem of history that he was.
His career was one long record of brutality and murder starting in the 1920's. His efforts to destroy private farms in Ukraine led to millions starving to death. Millions more died in various industrialization projects that were built using slave labor, labor that was worked to death in extreme climates.
Stalin instigated wars with Finland, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Romania, and Lithuania - all by 1940. All were bloody affairs with civilian and military alike being slaughtered. Prior to this he had fought a short war with Japan over border issues in north China. He lent major support to communist movements throughout the world, but most effectively in China. This led to constant conflict between the rebel communist groups and the legitimate, Nationalist, government of that country.
During WWII he encouraged tactics which led to the deaths of about 8,000,000 of his own soldiers. Additionally about 2,800,000 German/Hungarian/Romanian/Finnish troops were killed by his armies. His scorched earth policy meant starvation for millions of his own people overrun by the German invasion. Stalin's policies meant to mercy to prisoners and huge numbers died after being taken captive during the war. Perhaps 30,000,000 persons of various nations died because of Stalin just during WWII.
Following WWII, Stalin instigated a policy of terror on the German people. This led to about 2,000,000 German civilians being murdered outright and thousands more commiting suicide. Additionally Stalin enforced brutal police states on all the peoples of eastern Europe which he overran with his armies. Tens of thousands died in these takeovers. German POWs were kept in horrible conditions for as long as ten years after the war, leading to the deaths of at least 1,000,000.
As the war in Europe wound down in 1945, he launched an unprovoked war with Japan, killing many tens of thousands of Japanese troops and capturing many others that were brutally treating in POW camps. Arms captured from the Japanese were then turned over to Stalin's communist allies among the Chinese people.
These Chinese, thus well armed, quickly routed the legitimate government forces in that country and placed a terrorist criminal gang in charge, led by Mao. Mao then used his Stalin backed power to instigate his own slaughter of the Chinese, leading to perhaps 30,000,000 dead from all causes.
Stalin also armed the north Koreans and pressed them into a war with the western nations. This led to the deaths of perhaps 1,000,000 Koreans, 50,000 Americans, and 100,000 or so Chinese.
Meanwhile in the USSR, Stalin's concentration camps were crammed with millions of inmates, who died by the thousands from overwork, exhaustion, starvation, scurvy, shooting, beatings, and disease.
However, by winning WWII, Stalin has been largely ignored in the history books as the astonishingly prolific killer that he was.
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Sorry, I am a capitolist and therefore far to lazy to read your entire post if I am not getting paid.
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Marx thought labor was 'constant', meaning everyone works as hard as they can regardless of pay or benefit. They work for the good of the collective, you see.
So in his economic models labor is never a variable, but a constant, thus showing a complete lack of understanding of basic human nature. And every version of Marxism has always failed.
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Except almost every place that has tried it has ignored one of the major tenets Marx put forth alongside his idea of Communism - that of Democracy.
People are rarely happy if they don't have a say in their own affairs; moreover China and Russia never really completed their transitions from monarchist to communist societies. They simply switched to a sort of oligarchy.
And I've never ever said Marxism is perfect <^.~> hardly; but I take a great deal of inspiration from it; as I think its a good model for "What could be".
I am, and have always been, a great believer that human nature is not so selfish as some believe; and that through a gradual process, humanity could outgrow a lot of its most selfish and negative components. Of course there will always be those intent on hurting others, criminals and the like, but then, for me, perfection is not a goal, but rather an aim to strive for. It'll never be reached - but if we don't at least try, then things won't improve.
And thats enough of my distracting this thread with my philosophizing <,<
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Stalin was a [Censored]. But there are political leaders from every party that have been turds. *cough*
I really agree with you, Misinformed, but I do think humans are selfish. Not to harm others, and subconsciously. Why? Because we're fine tuned for survival -- survival of the fittest.
I am a capitalist. I love money. I want money for everything. Even breathing!
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Indeed, and I've always found that a bit unfortunate honestly. Especially because if more people really knew of the man, they'd know for sure he, and most of Soviet Russia's history had very little to do with the principles of Communism.
If people looked at religion the same way they look at communism <,< no one would go to church, because regardless of what Jesus said, His followers have often committed evil atrocities. But very few would actually blame religion itself for that; just fools and despots.
The same principle applies.
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I am a capitalist. I love money. I want money for everything. Even breathing!
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Hey, I'll take money for breathing. My lungs are working hard, dammit!
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Stalin was a [Censored]. But there are political leaders from every party that have been turds. *cough*
I really agree with you, Misinformed, but I do think humans are selfish. Not to harm others, and subconsciously. Why? Because we're fine tuned for survival -- survival of the fittest.
I am a capitalist. I love money. I want money for everything. Even breathing!
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Ahhh if we were all just ELOI.......
Its only a few years away........why by 802,701 A.D. we will find an apparently peaceful, pastoral, communist, future filled with happy, simple humans who call themselves the Eloi. The Eloi are about four feet tall (~120cm), pink-skinned and frail-looking, with curly hair, small ears and mouths and large eyes. Males and females seem to be quite similar in build and appearance. They have high-pitched, soft voices and speak an unknown language. They appear to be quite unintelligent and child-like and live without quarrels or conflict. They are led by some deity named Hillary.
Get to drawing Dirt!
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I don't expect anyone to see it my way hehe; but I have a lot of faith that its possible, and significantly more interesting than people are willing to believe.
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I don't expect anyone to see it my way hehe; but I have a lot of faith that its possible, and significantly more interesting than people are willing to believe.
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Yeah spend time in Africa............you will come back depressed. 
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I'm at work!
When I get home, I am finishing up your VG buddy Lunar Strike's commish 
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I'm at work!
When I get home, I am finishing up your VG buddy Lunar Strike's commish
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Nice piece on Soviette and wow...lotta political talk here >_>
And here I was trying to come up with a good Eddie Izzard quote on all this and all I can think of is...
"Uh yes... and this is all true!"
I wanted to be in the army when I was little...
Reminds me of many of the old days on virtue. this is ollllld politcs
and personal attacks are never cool they always leave an elephant in the room and people fidgeting uncomfortably. if someone says something you dont agree with I recomend discussing the statement not attacking the person. you will look more reasonable and the conversation can be more politely ignored by those that arent interested
ettiquette lesson over.
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I had this commission in the pipeline and Javier Kisic was kind enough to change it up at the last minute when I had this other idea pop in my head. This is an awesome, sexy picture of my newest heroine whose name just became available after the name purge.
Here is how she appears in game: Soviette References
and here is the amazing piece of art. WARNING: slightly NSFW
Sexy Soviette
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And people wonder why I love communism.
AHHHHHHH MOTHERLAND! <,<
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then why don't you move there if it's so great? Although I expect no less from someone who uses a stupid squirrel-person avatar like a 2 year-old. God I can't stand misfit kids with attention crying issues.
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....buh?
Where'd this come from? You didn't think that comment was serious, did you? Cos if so... go listen to more Rush Limbaugh or something.
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Someone wound a tad too tight.
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Reminds me of many of the old days on virtue. this is ollllld politcs
and personal attacks are never cool they always leave an elephant in the room and people fidgeting uncomfortably. if someone says something you dont agree with I recomend discussing the statement not attacking the person. you will look more reasonable and the conversation can be more politely ignored by those that arent interested
ettiquette lesson over.
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I like that. I think I'll use it.
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I had this commission in the pipeline and Javier Kisic was kind enough to change it up at the last minute when I had this other idea pop in my head. This is an awesome, sexy picture of my newest heroine whose name just became available after the name purge.
Here is how she appears in game: Soviette References
and here is the amazing piece of art. WARNING: slightly NSFW
Sexy Soviette
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>^O.O^<
I can see areola!
Teehee!
Squrillykins:
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I am, and have always been, a great believer that human nature is not so selfish as some believe; and that through a gradual process, humanity could outgrow a lot of its most selfish and negative components. Of course there will always be those intent on hurting others, criminals and the like, but then, for me, perfection is not a goal, but rather an aim to strive for. It'll never be reached - but if we don't at least try, then things won't improve.
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Here is something a lot of people may not realize.
Humanity, as a species, has survived thus far and been so successful because we are one of the most unselfish animals on the planet. Think of it like a pack. We are willing to give of ourselves for the whole. We'll even go as far as to lay down our own lives for our family if the situations demands it.
The problem being.. exactly how many people in the country do you know? I mean to a point where they aren't just a flat stereotypical cardboard cutout in your mind. Effectively.. they don't register as other people in your mind till you know them. They might as well be things that talk before then. You can't be inclined to care if a cardboard cutout gets hurt, can you?
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I had this commission in the pipeline and Javier Kisic was kind enough to change it up at the last minute when I had this other idea pop in my head. This is an awesome, sexy picture of my newest heroine whose name just became available after the name purge.
Here is how she appears in game: Soviette References
and here is the amazing piece of art. WARNING: slightly NSFW
Sexy Soviette
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And people wonder why I love communism.
AHHHHHHH MOTHERLAND! <,<
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then why don't you move there if it's so great? Although I expect no less from someone who uses a stupid squirrel-person avatar like a 2 year-old. God I can't stand misfit kids with attention crying issues.
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jesus, I want to hit you for being such a jackass
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I had this commission in the pipeline and Javier Kisic was kind enough to change it up at the last minute when I had this other idea pop in my head. This is an awesome, sexy picture of my newest heroine whose name just became available after the name purge.
Here is how she appears in game: Soviette References
and here is the amazing piece of art. WARNING: slightly NSFW
Sexy Soviette
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And people wonder why I love communism.
AHHHHHHH MOTHERLAND! <,<
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then why don't you move there if it's so great? Although I expect no less from someone who uses a stupid squirrel-person avatar like a 2 year-old. God I can't stand misfit kids with attention crying issues.
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jesus, I want to hit you for being such a jackass
[/ QUOTE ] Better to eviscerate in fiction.......or comic book creator Wheres LJ?
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I had this commission in the pipeline and Javier Kisic was kind enough to change it up at the last minute when I had this other idea pop in my head. This is an awesome, sexy picture of my newest heroine whose name just became available after the name purge.
Here is how she appears in game: Soviette References
and here is the amazing piece of art. WARNING: slightly NSFW
Sexy Soviette
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And people wonder why I love communism.
AHHHHHHH MOTHERLAND! <,<
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then why don't you move there if it's so great? Although I expect no less from someone who uses a stupid squirrel-person avatar like a 2 year-old. God I can't stand misfit kids with attention crying issues.
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That sort of idiocy is so far beneath contempt it's not funny.
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Don't drag me into this... I'm dying to see Eastern Promises... and lay off the Catgirl, not Squirrel! 
Edit: Icarium's last 4 posts were all pretty much in the same vein, so I'd take it with a grain of salt. I wouldn't take it personally, he seems to be an equal opportunity ranter...
Sorry Warface, hard to do a cartoon of someone who doesn't have a decent avatar/link to a screen. 
First off, great artwork - sexy!
Secondly, most of the rest of this thread needs to go away, or haul butt over to the PWNZ forum or wherever. I purposely shy away from many forums here to avoid this kind of crap, and the art forum has been a nice haven. Let's keep it that way, please. And trolls, begone!
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Holy smokes, what happened in here!?
Too much heavy political mumbo jumbo. Let's just look at the boobies, okay? 
Oh, and Icarium . . . you are a twit, begone with ye.
Marx thought labor was 'constant', meaning everyone works as hard as they can regardless of pay or benefit. They work for the good of the collective, you see.
So in his economic models labor is never a variable, but a constant, thus showing a complete lack of understanding of basic human nature. And every version of Marxism has always failed.
And now I am boring even myself....
When you see yourself in a crowded room / do your fingers itch,are you pistol-whipped
Will you step in line or release the glitch / can you fall asleep with a panic switch