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Plea for Guides from I9 Onwards (Inventions)

Aett_Thorn

By Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2007-05-03 06:21 in Player Guides

 

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All,

I hope this post wont get lost in the shuffle but I wanted to make a request.

Now that Issue 9 is here, the Inventions system changes a lot about the effectiveness of characters, power choices, slotting in powers, etc. For example, many players who never used Snipes may take them now due to the Snipe set powers, or characters may slot for knockback protection with some of the IOs that go in health etc.

My request is that as everyone makes new guides and updates their old ones, can you please take care to discuss builds with IOs and without IOs.

The developers have said IOs wont be needed, and thats great. Many players will take that to heart as well, and some will simply delay delving into IOs until later. I would like to see sections in guides that have a "normal" build without reliance on IOs. If they also have an IO-based section, great. That would be perfect. My primary concern is that all the new guides and updated guides will only make assumptions on power picks and slotting based on the best IOs. Even just assuming slotting based on the simple recipes (level 50 Accuracy IO for example) would be unfortunate.

Please include build choices and comments for each approach.

Thanks,

Lewis

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Give them time, man. Even the people who tested the bejeebus out of the system on test probably couldn't tell you optimal slotting for different powersets. It's going to take time before most people can write guides outlining good and bad IOs for different powers within a set.

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I'm cool with that. I'm actually not concerned that people will eventually incorporate IO stuff in the guides. I'm more concerned that they will abandon "normal" enhancement slottings in their assumptions. So, for now, its all good.

Lewis

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"I remember... the Alamo." -- Pee-wee Herman
"Oh don't worry. I always leave things to the last moment." -- The Doctor
"Telescopes are time machines." -- Carl Sagan

 

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I'm not touching IOs if/when I update my Ice control guide. I just don't have the head to figure out the math to uberize something

 

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Sorry man, but right now Inventions are something I barely understand. Trying to add IOs into my 50 Illusion/Sonic and then incorporating that into my guide will be near impossible for me.

 

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Sorry man, but right now Inventions are something I barely understand. Trying to add IOs into my 50 Illusion/Sonic and then incorporating that into my guide will be near impossible for me.

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I think you miss the point a little. The OP isn't asking for IO's to be added to guides, but for xO's to not be forgotten when you do write a guide.

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I agree completely. I'm more than a little mystified about the advanced IO stuff. The in-game tutorial was woefully inadequate.

 

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Sorry man, but right now Inventions are something I barely understand. Trying to add IOs into my 50 Illusion/Sonic and then incorporating that into my guide will be near impossible for me.

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Given that the request wasn't to add IO's - what's your point?

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My request is that as everyone makes new guides and updates their old ones, can you please take care to discuss builds with IOs and without IOs.



Lewis

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I'm waiting for a guide for MA/Regen - I'm still not quite sure how exemping will affect the IOs and IO sets - and I exemp a lot.

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Sorry man, but right now Inventions are something I barely understand. Trying to add IOs into my 50 Illusion/Sonic and then incorporating that into my guide will be near impossible for me.

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Given that the request wasn't to add IO's - what's your point?

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did you bother to read his request, he asked to discuss builds with IOs in them as well, I was telling him my guide would not be doing this.

 

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Request granted - I left the original SO slotting guidelines in, while noting (in bold) the different slotting plans for IOs. Enjoy!

 

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Sorry man, but right now Inventions are something I barely understand. Trying to add IOs into my 50 Illusion/Sonic and then incorporating that into my guide will be near impossible for me.

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Given that the request wasn't to add IO's - what's your point?

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did you bother to read his request, he asked to discuss builds with IOs in them as well, I was telling him my guide would not be doing this.

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Yes I read his post - and there was no request to add IO's to any guides.

http://derekl1963.livejournal.com/

 

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To a certain extent I'm still wrapping my head around the possibilities with IO's, but I've started work on a new version of my Necro/Dark guide. I want it to be comprehensive, so it will take a little while, but at least I've started the groundwork.