The Lazy Player's Guide


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There are a lot of ways to play CoH. There are a lot of guides suggesting how to play some of them. This guide is about the ‘lazy’ way to play. Any build can be a leach; just standing in the back or at the mission entrance sucking up XP. Here I will attempt to put forth some guidance on how to build a hero who actually contributes and is a desirable team-mate, all while allowing the player to relax and enjoy the scenery.

Before getting to archetypes a few words on travel powers. Actually a few words on the only lazy travel power: flight. Set your destination, hit R, and relax for 5 minutes while flying halfway across Atlas Park. Really, there is no other choice for the lazy player. Concealment minus Grant Invisibility, Fitness, and Leadership for Defenders and Controllers are also very useful but wonderfully lazy pool choices.

Let us now start with scrappers and finish with them in the same statement: there is no such thing as a lazy scrapper. Spines with Invulnerable or Super Reflexes is about as close as you can get and that is still quite labor intensive. If your goal is to be lazy, then forget about running a scrapper.

Although you might think it, such is not necessarily the case with blasters. To be sure the majority of builds are high intensity, but it is possible to get away from that at least to a certain degree with Electric/Ice if you select your powers wisely. The big three relaxation powers from the primary are Short Circuit, Tesla Cage, and Voltaic Sentinel. With Lightning Bolt set to auto-fire after a fight starts you can drop in those 3 at your leisure and still be contributing in a big way all while watching your local nightly news on the tele. Chilling Embrace and Ice Patch are real lazy standouts from the secondary although Freezing Touch and Frozen Aura are great end game low effort powers as well.

Next we have defenders. For a lazy primary there is simply nothing that compares to Force Fields. Every 4 minutes you have to refresh bubbles on the team and then go back to reading your novel. Electrical Blast wins out for defenders with the same slacker powers and approach as for the lazy Blaster. (Short Circuit is one of the greatest powers in the game even if you are not looking to play the low intensity way.)

Running a controller can be a lot of work, but there is hope for the Ice/Storm players. From Ice we have Arctic Air, Ice Slick, Glacier, and Jack Frost which allow you to sleep-walk through most fights while still contributing in a big way. From the Storm secondary we have Snow Storm, Steamy Mist, Freezing Rain, and finally Lightning Storm. All very effective in most fights and all requiring almost no effort to use.

Finally, we arrive at the summit of laziness: the tank. And at the pinnacle of the summit we have the Ice/Ice tanker. Is this to say all tankers, especially Ice/Ice, are lazy players? Certainly not. You can play a tank just as intensely as any scrapper build if that is your desire. However, if you are looking for the absolute lowest intensity setup you can get then you need look no further.

The lazy Ice/Ice Tanker toggles up Tough, Chilling Embrace, Wet Ice, Icicles, and Frozen Armor and/or Glacial Armor depending on the fight. With these powers up he runs to the center of the mobs, sets Taunt to auto-fire and goes AFK. If he feels particularly energetic he may toss off an Ice Patch after the fist Taunt. Freezing Touch, Hoarfrost, and Hibernate are all optional depending on how the fight progresses. Although not as low effort, with Greater Ice Sword this guy is even a good solo player: the best of both worlds!


 

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LOL!
Stage, this cracked me up. thx bunches!

oop... with a scrapper, an empath & a pb I seem to be ranking rather low on the lazy player scale. Guess I'll have to take some notes from you in order to kick back & relax a little more while CoHing. tee hee


 

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*sigh* About the comments on ice/storm....I can tell you...that is all true.

I was on a team..I think...yesterday evening. It was full of enemies, and I'm only level 19 with the controller, so, I was thinking of different ways to control them....then...I looked at my powers, and realized the easiest way:

Wait for the tank to gather all the mobs into a close proximity of one area...then...lay down an ice patch. Once, all the enemies are focused on him, and now being all knocked down, put out a freezing rain to increase our damage. Then, with steamy mist already up, I just went near the edge of the ice patch and went afk for about a minute....just reading. When I looked back up, the last enemy fell and nobody was hurt once.


Lazy? But of course.


 

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Before getting to archetypes a few words on travel powers. Actually a few words on the only lazy travel power: flight. Set your destination, hit R, and relax for 5 minutes while flying halfway across Atlas Park. Really, there is no other choice for the lazy player.

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You missed the ultimate in lazy travel. Whatever power you pick has no bearing. Just find a team with someone that has recall friend, and constantly ask for a tp. Doesn't matter if you're level 14 or level 50. Don't move from the tram to that mission door maybe 200 yards away. Ask for a tp. Never move your own lazy butt across a zone. Expect the poor sod who picked 'recall friend' to do it for you.


 

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I was in the Synapse TF with 4 friends of mine. I was playing a Mind/Emp Controller who I used the free respec for specifically for the TF (I was going to be moving him to another server).

I had taken the 3 main Leadership powers.

After a few missions, I realized that my holds weren't really that beneficial for the team and that I was better off auto-following the main damage dealer and Fortifying him (auto-fire) and keeping my leadership toggles on.

I think the last two missions I ran like that.....caught up on Battlestar Galactica episodes on my TiVo.


 

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Flight is lazy. Hover is lazier still. Line up the arrow, hit R. Nap.

It even gives you an excuse to float over the party at all times. Talk about air matresses!


 

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Before getting to archetypes a few words on travel powers. Actually a few words on the only lazy travel power: flight. Set your destination, hit R, and relax for 5 minutes while flying halfway across Atlas Park. Really, there is no other choice for the lazy player.

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You missed the ultimate in lazy travel. Whatever power you pick has no bearing. Just find a team with someone that has recall friend, and constantly ask for a tp. Doesn't matter if you're level 14 or level 50. Don't move from the tram to that mission door maybe 200 yards away. Ask for a tp. Never move your own lazy butt across a zone. Expect the poor sod who picked 'recall friend' to do it for you.

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Make sure to have your TP request set as a bind so you don't have to re-type it each time.

I played with a lvl 24 energy blaster who said almost nothing besides "tp me" "heal me" "tp me" "heal me"...
There was never a please or thank you involved.


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Ah you missed my favorite lazy build..

Ice/FF controller

bubble every 4 minutes and drop ice slick when ever its ready FTW!


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AH man.... You Ice/FF controlers are giving me a sweat just thinking about all that work.... What ya'll silly lazy heroes seem to forget about is the BOTS/FF Master mind. Yes yes there a bit of effort at the door of the mission... setting bots up... upgrading them and that nonsense... but the real floating down the river on a tube is when you toggle on your Deflection bubble, Manuvers, tactics, and Assault, put the bots in Body Guard mode, and put the Brute on follow. Why bubble or heal your pets when they can do it.


 

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Very amusing, stageIII. Well done! Actually the guide is a bit short, but I guess that's to be expected of the lazy person.


 

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/e looks amusedly on as Miladys_Knight practises necromancy.


 

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I lol'd good work.


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/e looks amusedly on as Miladys_Knight practises necromancy.

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Oh my goodness.

Resurrecting a thread after two and a half years takes some.... something...


 

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/e looks amusedly on as Miladys_Knight practises necromancy.

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Oh my goodness.

Resurrecting a thread after two and a half years takes some.... something...


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They were going to post a reply 2 1/2 years ago, but kept putting it off...


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Guides get necro'd often because people who never originally read them find them listed in the Guide to Guides, read 'em, and comment, not realizing how old they are.


And since this thread has been rezzed...

Bots/FF isn't lazy because teammates keep screaming to be bubbled. You want the king of MMs and prince of cruise: Bots/Dark. Put yourself in body guard mode and follow the Brute with Twilight Grasp on auto. You and the Brute will constantly be healed, bots will heal and bubble each other, and you have no buffs for team mates to scream for (except for the rare, 'rez meh!').


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My favorite lazy build is Ill./? Controller with full leadership
I just call up my pets & keep them alive


 

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Guides get necro'd often because people who never originally read them find them listed in the Guide to Guides, read 'em, and comment, not realizing how old they are.

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I was just trying to make a joke ("lazy" guide --> kept putting it off). But I guess it failed.


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Guides get necro'd often because people who never originally read them find them listed in the Guide to Guides, read 'em, and comment, not realizing how old they are.

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I was just trying to make a joke ("lazy" guide --> kept putting it off). But I guess it failed.

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Ah, I was replying in general to the wow-ness of the rezziness of such a long-dead thread, not to your clever comment.


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Zounds.

I take 18 months off to play mostly Guild Wars and come back to find this of all threads brought back from the dead?

Anyway, I tried out an ice/storm controller on the baby new year mission last night and sure enough this still looks like the relaxation build for that AT.

I had some reading to catch up on the other day as well so I dusted off the ice tank. Yup - still the king!


 

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A lot of issues have been released since I wrote this, so it is time for a 2nd edition. (Pre-I3 and pre-ED bubblers were gods; not so much anymore...)

So, let's talk villain side and laziness. To start with, which AT should you choose?

Brute, with that rage bar constantly nagging on you like your old lady who wants the garbage out yet still takes her own sweet time fetching you another 6 pack, just does not work for the lazy player.

Mastermind, with all those drones needing constant attention just like the rug rats with the diaper changing, band aiding, daily feeding, monthly bathing, keepin' 'em out of what's left of this 6 pack; NOOOOO thank-you! (Why else would you take the garbage out and go pick up the welfare check every month if not to get a free pass on all that womany stuff?)

Corruptor: Hmmm, keep the team buffed/spawns de-buffed while laying out the smack-down at the same time? Kind of like fix the toilet (the one next door at my brother's work just fine thank-you very much), fix the sink (just keep the dripping faucet over on the left side and it works fine), and REALLY fix the broken window in the kids room (let's see A-another layer of duct tape or B-the equivalent of eight 6 packs just so they can break it again?), all at the SAME TIME?!? I don't think so.

Stalker: Two quick deadly strikes, run away and hide, sneak back and do it again. Hey, now we are getting closer at least. Still, this sounds too much to me like changing your own channels when you could have a DVR instead. Sure, programming it up front is a pain, but then you just sit back and put her on cruise control. Plus, what do those DVR-less souls do when a bass fishing tournament and a nascar race are on at the same time?

That leaves us with Dominator. Fortunately it looks like we have a winner here for the lazy player. (Remember, lazy player does not mean you just stand at the mission door and leach; any AT can do that. Lazy player means you are still significantly contributing to team success, but you also get to eat a sammy and suck back a few while doing so.) Unfortuanately, unlike bubblers where all you have to do is buff the team every 4 minutes and stay somewhat close to the main assist with a dominator you will have to push the button more frequently.

Now in order to cut back on how often you have to cast you really need to build for perma domination. That truly is NOT very difficult and can be quite cheap with the right power choices. For me that means mind/thorn. Mind has the best and widest selection of group mezzing and thorn has knockback which lets you slot kinetic crash 3 times to go with 2 basilisk gaze which gets you your 5 X 7.5% recharge. Now all you need is 5 X 6.25%, 4 X 5%, and 2 purple 10% recharge sets. If you end up paying more than 100 million for ALL of that then you have not done a very good job shopping. (Yeah, basilisk is ridiculous right now, but it should hopefully settle down and you can swap it for 2 more kinetic crash if you must.)

Once perma domination is in place (those sets plus 3 slotted hasten) your job at the start of each fight is to drop aim, total domination, terrify, then mass confusion. If you are on even a half decent team the fight will be over before anything else is needed from you. Wash, rinse, repeat. Have fun and try not to get too smashed with all the spare time you have playing lazy.


 

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I have an Ice/Storm at 50, and I can tell you a 'Troller even lazier than him . . . Fire/Rad. I run Hot Feet and Choking Cloud. I see a spawn, Flashfire + Fire Cages, then run in and stand there. Do nothing other than keep an eye out to see if any foes break free of the hold in Choking Cloud. Foes slowly melt, while Fire Imps do large amounts of Damage. Next group, Flashfire+Fire Cages, run in and stand there.

I have described it in other threads as "the Lazy Man's 'Troller."


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Really...Doms? *Shocked* Plant/Elec...I do so much stuff all the time. Sometimes I am button mashing so much, I think Ill need a replacement keyboard. *Pulls hair from roots* Seriously...I need like 4 cups of coffee, close range, stealth, and seeds of confusion...then I can calm down!!!

Until we get ambushed...then I have to rely on my attack chain.

Seeds of confusion+Pose Sexy in battle costume+Strangler+Lighting Bolt+Charged+Bolt+Pose+Strangler....It's a nightmare!!!