Europe Beta Applications -European Testers Wanted!
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ALPHA_NA,
Posted on: 2004-12-10 11:08 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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"Gnight Jonboy"
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That's the only thing i took offense to as a North American player, do people really believe that name is used here? 
Sincerely,
Billy Bob Joe Jean Byler
hehe, sometimes i crack myself up! 
Now, a good question would be exactly what do I, as a European, get for playing the European version of CoH? I've looked and looked and I can't find anything beyond "local language", "local time zones", "local servers".
I'm a Bulgarian, and no one will ever make a translation of a game in Bulgarian, unless it's a Bulgarian game, so the language point is moot.
The time zone difference never bothered me the least. I've never had problems finding people and the downtime was a pain only on day one. So, the time zone point is moot.
I have zero to no problems with servers, and when I do have problems, that's usually my provider screwing around with me. So, the local servers point is moot.
OK, I get a moot benefit, but as a CoH player already, I get quite a number of disadvantages:
The localised servers will have mainly German and French speaking people - both languages I don't understand. Some English will be present, but that'll definitely put a limitation on the servers I can use.
All my characters are still on victory. I have no desire to replay them, and I doubt I'd bother copying them, since they're just fine where they are.
I won't be allowed to play on the US servers. Of course, living in Europe, I'm a lesser man than the North Americans, so I have to be segregated in European servers. Well, as soon as I speak with my money at least.
No, I'm sorry, but there's absolutely nothing in the European version of CoH for me, regardless of my currently active US account. It's more of a British-German-French version of CoH, than it is a European version as far as I can tell.
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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With the release of the European CoH, can we finally get our comics? Would be nice to get the comics for the months I paid for. (Wasnt an Opt-Out option last time I played ~6 months ago)
Aye, that's a good question. Do we finally get to have our comic books, or do we need to purchase the Eropean version on top of our USA verison?
I'd really like to have the comic books, but I wouldn't repurchase the game for them.
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Samuel_Tow, I don't really understand your point.
You will not be forced to leave the us servers and play on european ones.
If you already have the US version of CoH, stick with it.
I play in France, but I have not intention of playing on a french server, I'll stay on virtue.
OK, I downloaded the Euro-Beta, installed it in a different folder/different drive than the US live one, and when I launch the Euro-updater, I get the US server choice.
I think I won't beta test the Euro after all.
LOL - well I live in the UK and have been playing CoH since a couple of days after release (I bought it off the PlayNC site before they scrapped being able to do that).
I applied for European Beta, but haven't heard anything back (yet).
A point that was touched on earlier is the language barrier.
In pretty much every online game I have ever played that has US survers and European servers, it seems that German becomes the primary language for the Euro server.
I could guess a number of reasons why, but essentially, for me, it is a self-fulfilling situation.
I am pretty sure that CoH will be the same, so I will continue to play on the US server, thus depriving the Euro server of another English-speaking player.
Just imagine if three quarters of the stuff in the broadcast channels is in a language you do not understand!
I'm not being elitist, racist or xenophobic here, but when I play a game, I prefer to be able to understand what the other players in the game are saying!
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OK, I downloaded the Euro-Beta, installed it in a different folder/different drive than the US live one, and when I launch the Euro-updater, I get the US server choice.
I think I won't beta test the Euro after all.
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Are you sure you're using the right shortcut to start the beta? You might want to try posting on the European Beta Technical Issues and Bugs board to see if anyone can help...
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In pretty much every online game I have ever played that has US survers and European servers, it seems that German becomes the primary language for the Euro server.
I could guess a number of reasons why, but essentially, for me, it is a self-fulfilling situation.
I am pretty sure that CoH will be the same, so I will continue to play on the US server, thus depriving the Euro server of another English-speaking player.
Just imagine if three quarters of the stuff in the broadcast channels is in a language you do not understand!
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This isn't going to happen. In the European version of City of Heroes, each server is dedicated to a specific language. If you want to play in English, you choose an English-language server. If you want to play in German, you choose a German-language server, and so on for French.
Likewise, we have message boards in all three supported languages.
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OK, I downloaded the Euro-Beta, installed it in a different folder/different drive than the US live one, and when I launch the Euro-updater, I get the US server choice.
I think I won't beta test the Euro after all.
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Are you sure you're using the right shortcut to start the beta? You might want to try posting on the European Beta Technical Issues and Bugs board to see if anyone can help...
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I posted on the European (french) tech.forum the day I installed the Euro Beta, and I didn't get any good answer.
As for using the right shortcut, I installed the game in a different folder than the original, I copied the updater (which I downloade from the Euro-Link) in the same folder and sent it to my desktop.
But after all, I'm too much involved in the US version and my supergroups and friends are here, I don't see when I can find time to test the french version.
And btw, it's funny to have an answer from a red name here, when I had none on the French forum.
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This isn't going to happen. In the European version of City of Heroes, each server is dedicated to a specific language. If you want to play in English, you choose an English-language server. If you want to play in German, you choose a German-language server, and so on for French.
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Well experience teaches us that English servers _will_ be saturated by German players unwilling or unable to speak English. I've seen it in every (European) MMO I've played so far. And a lot of those games also had a dedicated German server.
I don't want to attack any German people reading this but this is my experience and that of a lot of other people.
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With the release of the European CoH, can we finally get our comics? Would be nice to get the comics for the months I paid for. (Wasnt an Opt-Out option last time I played ~6 months ago)
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Bridger, what's the official line with this?
Does Germany or France have its own version of l33tsp34k?
I ph34r d3r g3r/\/\4|\| l33t sp34k.
And just a question bridger.
Tere is German, French and English European servers. Why not Spanish Server?
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Does Germany or France have its own version of l33tsp34k?
I ph34r d3r g3r/\/\4|\| l33t sp34k.
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As a matter of fact, french does. it's just as bad
Because "La Falange de la Libertad" will raise a few eyebrows in post-Franco Spain XD
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And just a question bridger.
Tere is German, French and English European servers. Why not Spanish Server?
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That will never happen my friend 
neither a portuguese, italian, etc.
I'm so accustomed in writing in english that when i find some portuguese in the EU beta i start speaking to him in english
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With the release of the European CoH, can we finally get our comics? Would be nice to get the comics for the months I paid for. (Wasnt an Opt-Out option last time I played ~6 months ago)
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Bridger, what's the official line with this?
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The European 'Deluxe' boxed set of City of Heroes will contain a special digest edition of the first four issues of the comic (for full contents, see this FAQ ).
The fate of the further issues of the comic is still being decided - I'll bring you the news as soon as we have it.
Quick question Bridger, if you'd be so kind... 
I never bought a 'boxed' version of the game (just the code from the NCSoft site etc).
Living in the UK, I'd now like to buy the European DVD version, so I get the comics I missed out on etc, but currently have no intention of playing on the EU servers (too many links with my US Supergroup now, plus you've said there will be no character transfer tool, so why should I leave my two Lv50 characters, plus many high level alts, behind?!).
The question is: will I be able to use the code for the European DVD on my 'US Client' though? (for the VIP badge, powerslide, capes etc)
(I'm *trying* to think of ways to support the EU release here, but it's not easy!)
Yii...
I'm afraid that the serial codes for the European version of City of Heroes won't work with the US client - neither will US serial codes (from the US DVD edition, for example) work with the European version.
Hmm... does that count with the (potential) account transfer? I'm not sure if its confirmed or not, but you were looking at existing US subscribers being able to switch to the Euro servers. If they were to have the US DVD edition now... would the goodies stay upon switching? How about the other Prestige Powers (like Rush or Dash)?
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Living in the UK, I'd now like to buy the European DVD version, so I get the comics I missed out on etc, but currently have no intention of playing on the EU servers (too many links with my US Supergroup now, plus you've said there will be no character transfer tool, so why should I leave my two Lv50 characters, plus many high level alts, behind?!).
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You're running up against exactly the same problem I have. I would dearly love to support the European release of this fantastic game but doing so means I will have to buy a new box for £40 get a new subscription and loose all my established characters as well as forgo any option to team with my rather excellent SG.
A pity really but I suppose that's the way it goes.
Bridger, will the european players currently playing the US game be able to transfer their characters or not?
I thnk many players are waiting for a good solid reply on that matter.
Since my first post got lost somehow... how by the way?
I am a german player playing CoH on the US servers right now.
Is it correct, that I will not be able to join european servers without buying another version? Or without losing access to the US servers (account transfer maybe)?
Please advice...
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For me localized European support means waiting many many months to get your updates due to translations being done for the other localized versions(mostly German and French).
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I've addressed this before (check this thread), but I appreciate that you might have missed it, so just to restate: This is not going to happen. At launch, the European version of City of Heroes will be up to date with the US one. Moving forward, there will be little or no delay between updates (and when I say 'little', I mean a matter of days at most - and we're working hard to ensure that even that doesn't happen).
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I dont like paying for inferior quality.
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Neither do we, and we wouldn't expect any of our players to do so.
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Sometimes, I love this comany... in that platonic way of course.