Adrenolin Boost: the disorient effect needs to go
By
1tonweasel,
Posted on: 2004-09-27 17:28 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Umm, how does it affect Fortitude in any way? Empaths have *no* natural toggles (unless one of the secondaries has one). I can see how it hurts leadership and pool buffs, but it works fine within it's own set.
It works fine in emergencies. I pop a discipline, and then cast it. I don't mind having to use an inspiration for emergencies. Emergencies aren't the problem.
Tough fights aren't the problem. I don't mind waiting 20 seconds before a tough fight to cure my stun.
It's only in regular run-of-the-mill encounters that I don't use it that much. But then, how often do you use Unstoppable or Moment of Glory or Novas? I feel like my AB has roughly an equivalent drawback to my Blackstar, so I don't think a one-slotted AB has big problems.
That said, I'm not slotting it up much any time soon. It works now because I use it infrequently. It could probably take a 2nd recharge (to go with my perma-hasten), just so it's more typically ready when someone Novas... but I'd still have to have someone else in the party to use it.
And most other defenders/controllers don't seem to do a good job of keeping me mez. free. FF, Kin, and Storm can all cure my disorient, but I only tend to use it a lot when I'm with an FF, and can just follow him or her around after using it. But that's not the power's fault.
I think this power is roughly ok the way it is. It's not fantastically amazing, but it's a decent power.
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I think the disorient effect is no big deal as long as the pwer does something spectacular. As it is now it does nothing more than add additional endurance, health and a minor increase to recharge rate. How about keeping the disorient effect, but add some more to it like Fort, incresed defense, massive increase in recharge or something of that line.
I would like to see AB be something that other heroes would be clamoring to get you on there team for. It would be a power that your team would use when battling the arch villians or really tough bosses.
Just my 2 cents (my first post, be kind 
Thank you for looking into it. Bottomline: this game is based on risk vs. reward or in the case of this power reward vs. risk and it just doesn't even come close.
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Pop a discipline before you fire off AB, it has a good chance of stopping the disorient effect =)
Use Medicine/Aid Self (includes Disorient Protection. This was added in ish 4 I think, when Health got Sleep Resistance).
Yes, that's two powers to get, but Aid Other will speed up your heal badge.
Also, is AB's disorient mag higher than the mag 1 mez protection of Acrobatics?
Curious, the post you replied to is dated 30/09/04, or roughly two years ago. Riddle me this.
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AB had the disorient removed ages ago. Serious necroposting.
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Jeebus! This has to be the biggest Necroposting I've seen...
09/29/04
09/01/06
thats almost two whole years.
How in heaven's name did you find this post?
I didn't know posts this far back still existed. I was seriously confused when I read the OP's post. Checked the date straight away, and was happy to see they didn't give AB its Disorient back 
WOW, just WOW (and I don't mean the Blizzard game).
This thing is so old archeologists are searching for it.
The disorient for AB was removed a long time ago. It's one of the best buff powers in the game.
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Wow, I was wondering if they'd brought back the disorient for AB for a minute there.
I remember they were glad to get rid of it. Talk about raising the dead though...
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10-20 seconds of no natural endurance recovery... RA and Catch a Breathes would still work (as they do with Psychic Wail... except Psychic Wail knocks out the toggles too which is why I think a reduction to base 10 Endurance is better than 0 Endurance - gives you a few seconds for RA or CaBs to work).
And in regard to using AB as a battle starter only... well it's not just 30 seconds of disorient and toggle re-enables, but also impact on your other buffs that are running (invis, Fort). I suppose it's do-able in a way... but it's kinda of whacko to have an empath knock themselves out trying to buff up a team member.
Now that I know about the Disciplines workaround I'm tempted to just shut up and go that way (!) but it just seems wrong!