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Changing the file size locally won't fix anything. What matters is it's size server-side

[/ QUOTE ]Feel free to read the rest of the thread too, to understand why we're disucssing this, Smurch.

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I wasn't surprised at his answer, and as an attempt to help answer, it was not as bad as you have tried to make it. But you did indeed succeed in ding-ing him.



I too, at first thought that his answer would be true...
that the filesize the MA would check would be the filesize on the MA server.
But it feels like it is indeed testing the filesize reported from the user's machine.

filesizes are often, well, usually, different, on different devices.

The short answer?
File size measures the size of a computer file. Typically it is measured in bytes with a prefix. The actual amount of disk space consumed by the file depends on the file system.
i.e. depending on how the drive is formatted, and designed, will make a file be a different length on a different drive.

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FileSize is affected by all the things about the way the storage is formatted.
Things like Block size, sectors, Clusters, and other factors.

Think of the area your file is stored in, as a string of little boxes.
The things mentioned above have determined the size of little boxes on your drive.

• If each box could only contain 2 text characters, then the filesize would be very efficient, because the most empty space (slackspace) that could be in the last box, would be one character long. (this would also make drive-reading very INefficient)
• But if the little boxes could hold 1000 characters, then the last box of any file could have from 1 to 999 empty slots, on average 500 empty. (larger slackspace) .
• the larger the 'little boxsize' is, the wider variation there can be from one drive to the next.
• In the just previous example, if the file were made up of 1000 boxes, 1000characterspace each, and the file had a 995 slackspace, and you copied the file to a drive that had room for one more character in each box, then you would eliminate the last box entirely, and the slackspace in the new 'last box' would only be a few characters long, since the file fit in the new set of boxes more efficiently. The length of the file on the two systems would have a significant difference, in a case like an MAarc file that is at the full mark.
• (The above numbers are example only. They are not likely numbers for the 'box sizes', and there ARE other factors than the ones I mentioned here.)

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So yes... IF you are working on an MA arc that is pushing the limit . . .
AND the MA system is accepting the file size your local machine is reporting, rather than the size the MA file will be when saved on the server, . . .
then the difference from machine to machine can be quite significant.

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I have belly button lint.

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Thought about this one a while,
and it left me wondering . . .
Your own? Or have you been out gathering it?

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Hmm.
Nope. I don't expect anyone would answer that.

I think the DBs you are wondering about are on the server side though.
Might be wrong, of course.
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Ya, funny how those who petition MA arcs for being a farm, have no problems hopping on a sewer team for XP's and faster leveing. Or, they do speed TF's. Aren't both of these technically called farming?

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See . . . Here's the thing . . .

You are making the classic error.
You are confusing, and mixing the terms 'farming', and 'exploiting'.


FARMING will continue, and is a normal, and useful thing for a lot of players.
Especially players who want to continue to play their 50s. That is how they are going to make money to keep buying and maxing out their IO slotting. They will indeed try to find whatever gives them the best yield to that end.
Playing the same things repetitively, and finding the best way to do that, in itself, does not bother the devs. (although they DID say they worry about repetitive play causing burnout, . . . which IS bad.)


EXPLOITS, on the other hand, are ALWAYS considered bad.
Exploits, are beyond 'better yield'.
Exploits, gain MEGA yield. They are rewards on steroids. uber-xp or uber-gold. and like steroids, there are bad side effects, if exploits are left in the game, or used too long.


Exploits do NOT EQUAL Farming.
Get your terms right, and the confusion mostly falls away.

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After having just read all those interviews with Matt Miller from various sites, I'm just hoping they complete powerset proliferation before throwing out everything else they have "up their sleeves."

I want my Ninjitsu Scrapper damnit!

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Wha ?!?

What the do you mean complete it???
<ul type="square">[*]The devs Have never promised complete proliferation.[*]Not only did they not promise it, they never suggested that it might be.[*]The devs have said it will probably be a few issues before any other proliferation.[*]They have said some powersets will never be given to some ATs.[/list]A few of you are acting SHOCKed, just SHOCKed, that there is not a lot of proliferation in I15?
Really? . . . Reallly?


Then . . . I am just SHOCKED!! that they didn't add a GodMode Button in I15 for everyone!

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Request &lt;a href="'http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/game_updates/issue_15/issue_15_overview.html'" target="_blank"&gt;granted&lt;/a&gt;.

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I think you meant:
granted!

(or is it just my browser that 404s out on that link?)
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I tend to agree with these opinions . . .
With a major exception.

As the OP mentioned, . . . small maps. Banks, Casinos, pawn shops, etc.

I think heist size should usually be Defeat All.

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Not bad.. but you might use some of the tall spikey hair
in flame colors

Those things are account wide

Also, A few of the MA badges are account wide... most are character based.
And, You receive some tickets from people playing arcs you have published.
You can pick up those tickets on any alt you like.
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darn good idea... seriously

you just made the best toon ever only to find out that the colors you selected were... just so very wrong.

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Oh yes!

I am used to guessing now, and have a better idea of what the colors are going to look after I pays mah money, and hits them streets.


But I remember a couple of costumes I made 5 years ago (Shiver!).
Had one great red based costume I loved! . . and when I got outside, . . .
. . . I found out I should have named myself BrightPinkMan!

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Yeahm but they didn't get charged an extra 30 bucks for something that should have cost 10.....lol

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true... but in a day or two, you won't still be charged for those either...
And we get all this for the price of a month play + $5.
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If it is any consolation, that wow thing is having the same probs today...

A friend told me the servers were down pretty much all day patching...

And their accounting server was apparently down for 2 or 3 hours when it got overloaded.

Worse than us, actually.
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... they won't raise the level cap - and I 100 percent agree....

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Let's start over again..... stretch a moment, and get relaxed.... Breath in and out deeply.

Now <ul type="square">[*]Read again the above line from your original post. Read it over and over til you understand it.[*]Repeat to yourself: "There will be NO player alts above 50" . . . until it is firm in your mind.[*]Repeat: "50 is THE player character LEVEL-CAP.", . . . until you understand that truth.[/list]
Now, calmly, and logically, with the above statements clear in your mind...
Tell us what it is that you want to suggest.

Go ahead. as long as you use these statements and logic.... We will listen.
(Try to avoid the use of the word "But".)

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2. Perhaps they should do this...
It WOULD make something you can already do, easier.

But then, they could make it so Enhancements all cost 1 inf
It WOULD make something you can already do, easier.

Or maybe they should make it so you get so much XP, you can go from 1 to 50 in 1 day!
It WOULD make something you can already do, easier.

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Hyperbole doesn't make your point any less specious.

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and illogic is useless. It does not matter that they were exaggerated.

They were simple statements in the same form several people keep making.
They were simple proofs that:

The statement "We can already do X, so doing X should be made (easier/quicker/etc.)",
is logically unsound, and meaningless.

The valid conclusion:
"We already can do X" obviously does NOT logically lead to 'X should be made easier'.


If the idea can be supported, it will need to be done without that illogic.

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I skimmed 2 pages of whining "no" spam and only 1 person even bothered to explain. . . .

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1. You forgot the huge number who said "SEARCH".
That would take you to where this question has been run into the ground over and over.
People get tired of explaining after a while... referring to previous dead horse beating is just easier.
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2. Perhaps they should do this...
It WOULD make something you can already do, easier.

But then, they could make it so Enhancements all cost 1 inf
It WOULD make something you can already do, easier.

Or maybe they should make it so you get so much XP, you can go from 1 to 50 in 1 day!
It WOULD make something you can already do, easier.
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But I sorta think if they were going to do it, or thought it was a good idea, They already woulda done it!
Making things easier for us just isn't the only factor.

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3. Not really much of a challenge, if you don't grow your alts from scratch.

You use other alts' resources! Gasp!
That's like popping insps in PvP!!!
lame.
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Edited to add:
If all the NOs aren't enough for you . . .
refer back to number 1..

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Well,
You know what they say about repeatedly doing the same thing over and over,
and yet expecting a different result. . .
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"They" didn't say it, Einstein said it.

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And NC Soft has proved often enough that they are willing to listen to their customers, so if this is kept on the radar NC Soft might implement it.

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LOL... That always amuse me when people try to use it to defend beating poor dead horses yet again.

The fact that people whined endlessly about something does NOT prove that the whining is what caused it. The devs have things they think are good for the game, and things they don't. They do them when they want to, and think it will help the game,
If the devs like something, and think is do-able, they will do it. If they think an idea is bad, or unfeasible, they WON'T do it. . . no matter how much whining there is for it.

There was a really funny childrens book long ago about a dog who was absolutely SURE that it was he that made the sun come up in the morning, by barking until it rose.
It was hilarious.

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This idea has been suggested many times before, and it's a good idea. It solves the biggest problems with the market and it is LONG overdue.

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Well,
You know what they say about repeatedly doing the same thing over and over,
and yet expecting a different result. . .

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Is there someone we can PM about the possibilities unblocking certain terms? Just curious, the filter is blocking a fairly common Latin word and this is troublesome for writing in Latin.

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As Ex announced, they are already lookin into it a little.

But I'll bite.
What is the word?

There are many common English words that are profanity-filtered.
REALLY common ones.

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How did I miss this thread this long?
And look at my great new Avatar!

Definitely love this!


(Yes, CBG's Battle Cry is: . . . &gt;&gt; No Biting !! &lt;&lt; )

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Check my DA site for more info.

ToddWorld's Deviant Art Site

Thanks all. *fingers are crossed that this is a good idea*
Todd

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WOW!
I am so impressed.
Check out his DA site here again,
and see how My Chocolate Bunny Guy' is coming along! . . .
Perfect!

And I am gonna drop my pool diver avatar for this one.
I have had that avatar forever.

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Some nice work!
In unique styles!

Perfect for a couple of my more 'creative' alt costumes.
I'm signin up now.

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Ummmm who are you to say what type of playing is INTENDED

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No, I am not deciding which things are not as intended.
I was only commenting on something that very apparently HAS been judged to be that way.
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OO wait your prolly one of those guys that gets pissed when people speed stuff, huh?
YOU play your way. I will play mine. Using the word "exploit" tends to put a bee in peoples bonnets round these parts. Maybe next time pick a different word to illustrate your opinion.

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Nope, I always LOVED fast KHs.
I do miss them. Harder to get a team up now.
Never was surprised with any of the nerfs, tho.
I never pretended that I didn't know I was getting a big return, for little effort.


And I understand why the devs don't want to announce things that will cause a flurry of 'Get-Lotsa-Farm-Runs-in-Before-the-Change' activity.

Play however you like. I have no problem with that.
My only point was not to feel you are owed a big warning way ahead of time, with all the numbers, before they nerf something, and one of the reasons why.


A good friend of mine had the motto, "People who get offended, ... deserve to be."
Sorry, but I will not nerf the accuracy of the terms I use, just because some people have hot-buttons. I will though, apologize afterwards for using a term that you don't like... sorry.

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My biggest complaint is that we should have gotten the info on the Merit Changes BEFORE the patch went live.

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and again, Why? What good would that have done you?

<ul type="square">[*]They actually DID warn us it was coming over a week ago.
There has been a forum thread tracking the changes, since the 3rd of this month.[*]The devs do NOT like to give much, or any warning, when they are fixing something that they look at as an exploit, or something that is not being played as intended.[/list]
You just wanted to run the cherry rewards a few more times?

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This isnt an Exploit, stop throwing Fingers. We want information and its information that would be nice to have.. . .

[/ QUOTE ] Pay attention.
I said "or something that is not being played as intended."

This sort of thing is NOT something they want to let us know ahead of the change.
The information has already been being compiled... by us.

We will see if they give us the data now that the change has been made.
But even if they don't, the information WILL be there for you in the next couple of days, on the data sites, like Paragonwiki.
or go to that thread I linked above.

Sorry you didn't see the information we have been discussing for a week now.
Pay attention.

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My biggest complaint is that we should have gotten the info on the Merit Changes BEFORE the patch went live.

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and again, Why? What good would that have done you?

<ul type="square">[*]They actually DID warn us it was coming over a week ago.
There has been a forum thread tracking the changes, since the 3rd of this month.[*]The devs do NOT like to give much, or any warning, when they are fixing something that they look at as an exploit, or something that is not being played as intended.[/list]
You just wanted to farm the cherry rewards a few more times?

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...For those that have obtained Fabricator, I'd like to know how many did it with just crafting enhancements, as that seems to be the way we're now being asked to.

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Well, I did.
I think I may have crafted 2 or 3 buffs in that time, but 99.9% enhancements.



It DOES have a couple of side effects to do that....

Our SG tables were full of lots of fun enhancements.
And I made tons of moo-lah sellin' the crafted IOs.

I think I can live with the side effects.

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