shazan

Maybe I am wrong, but I could have sworn that a redname said that the MA wasnt the only thing in I14.

Has anyone noticed anything else for people who the MA doesnt float their boat?

............ hamsters

Okay so I was really really bored, lol

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Personally, I'm excited for this new edition of City of Heroes, which will be available March 12 on your PC or Mac. Are you already a City of Heroes fan?

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Click Me!

Is this the boxed edition release date (since we don't get boxed edition are we going to get the live update quicker?)

What's going on??

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Sorry to dampen peoples spirits, but I found this on Amazon.

Ah cool, gonna go get my eyesight tested

According to this , it appears that you only get the booster packs if you buy the new I14 box set , which we cannot buy here anyway.

Does anyone know if they will be available separately at all?

Its nice that they have as we still haven't had a sniff of the beta

I shouldn't bother Psych.

I have mine set to not looking as I tend to get my teams from a set group of friends (and after this thread, I am glad I do). To me it means not looking, but apparently to these others it means something along the lines of "Please send me tell after tell asking if I want to farm or fill, as I didn't really mean it."

These same people are the ones crying and whining because people who are listed as soloing and not wanting to team didn't really mean it and are flabbergasted when those people then either don't reply to the tells they asked not to receive in the first place, but then are all hurt when those people get fed up and are rude or dont answer.

You could put I do not specifically want any tells whatsoever from anybody, and they would still say it meant "I want someone to spam me to death"

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Search Comments:
"Not interested in teaming" describes your current (or past) actions, not your potential response to offers of other activities.
"soloing" would be far more accurate, if that is indeed what you mean.

Search Status:
"Not accepting invites", again, describes your current status. Not your desires or potential responses.
"Not looking for a team" would be far more accurate, if you do not wish any teams to look for YOU.

I swapped them around so you can see the words you use mean the same thing. You are being pedantic

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"Not interested in teaming" describes your intentions, and practically guarantees that your response to a team invite will be "No". It makes it painfully clear to the reader that they need not bother inviting you.

"Soloing" describes your current status. It implies nothing about your potential response to a team invite, and can even be taken to mean "I'm lonely" by someone who is not a native English speaker.

The two phrases are not analogous.


Your second "swap" doesn't even make sense.

Read the second sentence: "Not looking for team" merely decribes a lack of affirmative action on your part (if you are logged in and Browsing through Wentworths then you are also "Not looking for a team", but this in no way implies that you will say "no" if someone invites you to one).


Are you sure you actually grok the meanings of the above terms?

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You really are being pedantic now.

Accept that soloing and not looking mean just that and move on.

Not everybody is finding the concept hard to grasp.

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You have had people saying that they leave it in "not looking for team because......surprise surprise.....they are not looking for a team, yet you are saying that it does not mean that.

You have had people saying that they write "soloing" because......hey guess what.......they want to solo. Yet again, you are saying that they dont mean what they mean.

I know a lot of people who leave it in "not looking for a team" as they are not looking for a team and get their teams from their global chats. They also add in notes to that effect and still get people like you sending tell after tell because you dont believe they meant what they wrote and flagged.

I still say that you guys are justifying being annoying as you cannot accept that you are and that must therefore be the fault of the others you are annoying.

I am not being deliberately antagonistic, I just cannot believe that you cannot grasp simple mechanics of gameplay and english.

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Surely it is just as likely that THEY have correct notes ans status and YOU are wrong .

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Are you seriously suggesting that the majority of players update their status to correctly show what they want to do? I bet its not even close to 50% that do, more like 10% do 90% don't.

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But that is your assumption. Sure it may be quite a few people, but who are you to assume Godlike status and knowing all of their statuses are wrong?

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I am someone who plays the game, looks at the search screen and see's teams forming out of people who aren't sat on the LTF comment. It is blindingly obvious that I am right (Fine the % may be out but the point stands) or I wouldn't claim it (At least on Union).

Also I don't know one single person that updates their search comment every time they log on which would be hard if the majority of people were doing so.

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All bow to the psychic overlord of righteousness. Talk about get over yourself,lol.

Soloing means soloing. Full Stop.

Not looking for a team means not looking for a team. Full Stop.

Stop trying to justify your own laziness by misinterpreting the simple.

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Surely it is just as likely that THEY have correct notes ans status and YOU are wrong .

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Are you seriously suggesting that the majority of players update their status to correctly show what they want to do? I bet its not even close to 50% that do, more like 10% do 90% don't.

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But that is your assumption. Sure it may be quite a few people, but who are you to assume Godlike status and knowing all of their statuses are wrong?

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The game flags players as grey BY DEFAULT.

Nobody bothers to change it unless they're desperately looking for help with something. Grey might technically be labelled "Not Looking for team" in-game, but in practice it corresponds more to "I am not hidden and am not so annoyed by other people that I have changed my status to 'Not accepting Invites' - I am therefore a good candidate for recruitment".


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Hence why so many people use their search comments. If they're flagged as "Not looking", and their search comments say something like "Soloing", then it should be pretty clear that they're not interested. Assuming ANYthing else is just making yourself more comfortable with sending blind tells or invites, and has nothing to do with thinking that person might just have forgotten to change it.

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Seems I find myself in disagreement with you for once then FFM...

Personally I update my search comment very occasionally, usually leaving it saying something along the lines of what type of powersets my AT has and "Please send /tell before inviting", but if I'm looking for something in particular then it might have details about that.

Now I "get" that some people will change it regularly, perhaps even every time they log in.

The problem is (as has been brought up before) that a great many people (the vast majority in fact, from what I've seen in the past few years) tend to park that comment and only update it when they're particularly after something. It could be a badge, or a TF, you get the idea. In general they leave a default comment up, or forget to change it from whatever they left it at last.

So if a search comment says "soloing" and the name is grey (default) I'll assume that sending a tell is fine. Why? Because both those are very, very common things to be left up by default.

Even if a person HAS changed their comment to "Soloing" recently, it simply describes what that person is doing, it does not state what they do NOT want to do. If a comment says "Not interested in teaming" that's different... the only tell I'd see as being anyway 'justified' to that person would be something along the lines of "Apologies, I know your comment says you're not interested in teaming, but would you possibly have a few minutes to help me finish a mission I'm having real trouble with? Please?"

In terms of "Search status" flags, I generally take it as :

Red (Not interested. Don't tell, or even THINK about a blind invite)
Grey (Doesn't care. Send a tell but don't blind invite)
Other (Actively Looking - Sending a tell first is polite, but blind invites are generally acceptable unless their comment says otherwise)

Tells are a means of communication between players.
This is a MMORPG, a multiplayer game built around teaming.
Communication between players is one of the foundations of the game.

If someone is bothered about being sent tells, there are two options:
(i) There's /hide. This solves everything except for spam invites from that completely daft annoying global friend. (Everyone has one... )
(ii) "Not accepting Invites". This is effectively "I don't want to team with you. Leave me alone", and should be treated as such except in dire emergencies or if you're good friends with the person in question.

All IMO, naturally...

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But this post just shows my point.

YOU are making assumptions about everybody else in the game.

YOU think they are being lazy and have not changed their notes and status.

Surely it is just as likely that THEY have correct notes ans status and YOU are wrong and still justifying the fact that you are probably being annoying.

As I said earlier in the thread, I reply when I receive tells and it is normally politely, however, if I am "noted" as not wanting teams, or even worse, I am in a team and people still ask if I want to join one, then I will get snarky.

What I do object to, is people on this thread insinuating that it is the fault of the receivers for getting inappropriate tells and not the senders, who either are lazy or just do not understand the systems ingame.

It would make me laugh if it wasn't so tragic.

All these people trying to justify annoying people ingame by saying that the people being annoyed are the ones at fault for using the default system for not wanting a team.

If you cant be bothered to read, or haven't yet learnt, then maybe it is up to you to change your ways and not those using the system as it was meant.

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That's a two way street mate.

If you REALLY don't want to team, why not hide? Then I won't see you, I won't invite you (with or without a tell) and everyone's happy. If you've got an, at best, ambiguous message then it's not surprising if you get the odd invite.

Sure if it's just a blind, I can understand it being problematic, but equally you and I both know that if you only want to team with specific people or your SG, it's simple enough to let those people know you're in game without the wider world knowing.

If you have a message saying "I don't want to team with anyone EVER" then chances are I won't invite you. But this is fundamentally a team game, and so if you're on the grid, and you show up in the search, without a categorical refusal to team, I might just invite you. If you really don't want to be invited to a team, I'd suggest the onus is on you to take the steps to prevent that.

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Talk about ridiculous and being pedantic.

Why should people have to put up with people like yourself who send tells to people who dont want to team, have the option "dont want to team" showing, and then you have the nerve to say it is all their fault because you cant bloody read. Good Grief.

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If you can see that my name is not grey, then you can also look at the end of the line and read 'Soloing' in the message field.


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To be fair, often when people are in teams their names don't grey out. That's a bug, not the fault of the messenger. It's happened to me more than once.

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So that means they still cant read the no entry sign that means not looking for a team then?

I do tend to answer people anyway, but speaking of politeness, if those people sending the tells actually bothered to check if people were marked as not wanting a team or already in one, then maybe they could save everyone a decent amount of time.

The thing that irks me about it, is half the time, the people who attempt to do the ghosting really aren't equipped for it and end up dying or annoying the whole map.

Its a total waste of time and actually slows things down because then the rest of the team either ends up clearing the map to rescue or rez them, or they insist on doing the farce all over again.

Hair

These are awesome (nicked link from US forums)

Well said.

We did a LGTF night before last and it was appalling. It was almost kill one, mappie, kill one , mappie, kill one.....u get the idea and no I am not overstating, it really was that bad.

Last night we did another and for the first couple of missions it was fine, then it all started again. Add to that the disconnects, people not being able to log in etc and it is really poorly playing at the moment.

I didn't bug report as I have gotten totally fed up with the generic response, taking your time up by running endless tests and all so that they can blame it on your ISP, who incidentally say it is NC.

And of course not one iota of a response from anyone about it. Yes I know there are things going on, but that's not our problem , that is NCs.

Hi Avatea, Nice to meet you.

Good luck dealing with this mottle crew

Repel could be quite fun, lol

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Out of curiosity how many of the people who have had rubberbanding, mapserver disconnects, power lag etc have bugged them it may seem pointless and yes its dam tedious going thru all the pre set questions but it will help identify problems.

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Been there, done that got the T-shirt that says "I visited City of Heroes and all I got was this lousy ISP blame"