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SOMEONE didn't get drafted by the dUmb team in the champion league...SOMEONE is a little disappointed (though Kara's on my team at least!)
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I've been rocking Ice for the longest time and while sleet is awesome and Ice Storm is another nice AoE I'm just wondering if I made the right choice.
Sleet gives me -30% res for about 1/2 the time whereas P-Ray would give me 18.8% perma, plus a better attack than sleet I suppose. The shields are the same so that's no big deal. Then I'd have either A) A decent AoE (though I already have my AoE immob and PSW, so I wouldn't necessarily NEED it though it is nice) or B) Either another AoE to round out my attack chain, or an OHCRAP power if I wanted (that could give me more HP and 2 more slots, but that's not as big a deal)
As far as incarnate stuff I'm rocking Spiritual for the rech and making Drain Psyche better, Reactive, Warworks, and leaning heavily towards the hp/heal Rebirth for my Destiny slot.
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Quote:3 questions as I'm loving my 50 elec/psi anyway.Originally Posted by Ozmeth
He's seems to think they can beat him down as well as any team. Elec/Psy/Mace
[Note: This was the second attempt]
1) What is your ST chain and how does it do as far as damage for you?
2) Have you tried ice at all and do you find yourself missing the AoE of sleet and storm for more -res and -def?
3) Mind linking/sending me your build to gander at for any ideas for changes? -
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Nah, wasn't going to not listen to anyone, but my SG mates can both be biased at times, and also just say don't do something but not why.
So yea, didn't lose any recharge, but got over some of my more...extreme ideas and changed it up...
No loss in recharge, 30hp loss, and loss of a few (ok a lot) of procs in my chain, and went up to 32.5% s/l def, a touch more res, a bit worse end, and SL healing for 282 (storm, that was using it in my chain as far as the recharge, it was up faster than that)
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The 18% came from building for recharge, res, and hp. Wasn't building fo rit.
The problem being building for def puts a HUGE hurting on a build, and this build is just about where I was hoping it would be as far as rech and damage go -
Everyone in my SG is telling me I'm both making a poor decision going /elec, and a poor decision not building it for s/l def instead.
I'm looking at 18-20% def to everything, 59% s/l res, 89% nrg, 31.5% neg, 47.3% f/c, and 39.8% psi. 1752 hp w/o accos. Energize up every 34s, and Siphon Life healing me for 150 every 9s or so. Eventually I also plan on picking up Barrier.
So, who's crazy, me or them? -
Yea, that's what I was figuring myself too. Only click AoE is Soul Drain which isn't up that often as it is...
Thought about it, but doesn't seem like it would add that much to me. And heh, armageddon proc is already slotted, would be another regular damage proc -
I was wondering which would be better (or an end redux or the 6th oblit) for the 6th slot in my DM/Elec's lightning field.
The oblit def wouldn't stack with much, but it wouldn't hurt, and another damage proc would be much cheaper than the fury, which unless I'm mistaken isn't going to be quite worth it on a toggle, but it might still be a little better than another proc... -
Was wondering which would be the better choice for my DM/Elec...power sink brings -end to the enemies and would give me 2x as much end/use, but DC gives me another AoE attack which never hurts...
As of right now my only AoEs are Soul Drain and Dark Oblit. -
So yea, I think I've narrowed it down even more :P
It is between a DM/Elec brute, a DB/Elec scrap, or a Kat/Elec scrap.
As far as the scrappers go unless my math is way wrong my Kat mops the floor with the DB ST DPS wise (307 vs 280), plus I have DA if I really wanted it, so the only advantage would be 1000 cuts vs lotus (also the DB has quad procced caltrops for more dps, so it may actually be closer). The brute has more survivability, the heal (slotted for pure damage), and the ability to take barrier instead of rebirth in the future, but I don't know it's DPS at all at the moment, and soul drain with only one target sounds a little abysmal
Though also everyone in my SG keeps calling me a fool for wanting to go /elec, so maybe I should suck it up and go /fire again, but I'd lose 20% recharge and end and a t9 and such...but then again kat and dm both help elec out where it needs it... -
Yea, was comparing the brute dark to scrappers, sorry, on a slight tangent of my own now >_<
And yea, that's what my biggest downfall is now. I've decided stone doesn't have enough of an edge over a dark brute to make me drop the heal, and unless I'm retarded katana is better DPS than DB anyway (plus I CAN have DA if I want/need, though Lotus vs 1000 cuts is a little :'(). -
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=132369
sorry, brute dark*
though actually I calculated lightning field wrong, so my kat/elec build is up to 306.69 on paper and the db/elec is only at 280.35 (assuming perma double BF...) -
Yea, was leaning heavily towards those two, but dark seems to be close / better even with one target plus it has the heal so I could go barrier for survivability...but I just don't know >_<
Though out of the 3 DB gets the most procs for sure... -
Quote:That's my big problem, I'm trying to find a BIG GUN ST set and I can't find the one for me. Kat is nice, but i'm getting 283 completely pimped with procs and auras...don't know much about KM or even DB recently as I haven't done the math (or even dark assuming no saturation...)Originally Posted by Microcosm
I've got one somewhere,... just have to figure out which computer. From what I am seeing of Zyphoid's build though, and some calculations of another, KM can destroy that. I also know firsthand that DB can quickly overshoot it.
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Yea, on the kat side track I'm looking at 283.5 sustained DPS and that is WITH /elec's LF with a proc on a build I put together. If someone can show me >300DPS on a Kat I'm sold right here right now
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Yea, except killing minions and leiuts isn't hard in this game, especially on a team, but AVs tend to take at least a little time and that is where sets like this shine.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Postagulous
My kat/wp is my go-to melee character. Not uber, but unkillable and with style.
Another slight hold up on me going kat/elec. I have a kat/wp at 50 I could slot to be unkillable (or not play at all and lvl the /elec)...
So since BillZ made his results thread MA and claws have gotten a buff, any other changes?
That thread is giving me similar ideas to what I've had except for the above two. Maybe another fire, DB, or dark. Though obviously my katana build would have 2 purple procs, a mako proc, and 2 -res procs that he didn't include, the only other set that could come close would be DB to the proccing...(if I go scrap)
Looks like the Katana build I threw together is coming in at 283.53 DPS calculating everything except the BU proc unless I'm doing something wrong, which is great, but not O_O
Not sure how viable 90% constant fury would be with the new changes so maybe scrappers are closer/would have the edge now...? If brute I'd be leaning heavily towards stone or dark (have an ss/invuln and an ss/fire so don't really want to play again, plus I hate rage crashes already, fire I might repeat, but meh, and new EM = :'()
Though unless I'm thinking about my easy solution too hard I would just need to have my DPAs for my attacks better than the ones in the other chain (base), so 40% fury would easily top that chain (stone vs kat)...and ignoring proc disparities.
The stone/elec build I threw together for comparison could run what I believe is the top chain (feel like it could get better, but idk how, already have perma hasten) and would have 3 purple procs and 3 regular procs, but 0 -res in the chain... -
Yea, that's what I was remembering too.
And yea, I do love FSC among other things, but fire's ST seems to lag behind, and I've got the fire/shield if I want pure AoE carnage with a healthy dose of ST
And yea, definitely was thinking about that, though I'm never sure how much is doomsaying and how much I really need to worry about my chain getting resisted and by how much on average. -
Haha BillZ, what a compelling argument.
Thanks so far, but I must comment on FM for now. My problem is not that I have one already, that doesn't bother me. My problem is that I just don't see it. My FM/SD even with saturated AaO and solid build/procs/the 2nd best DPS chain is only clocking in at 268 and I feel like a different primary (or maybe a damage aura/the best chain is that big a deal) would mop the floor with that.
If I did DB I would probably not have many available combos anyway since unless I'm mistaken the top chain doesn't have any anyway so it would be just what I could fit after that.
And yea, DM was definitely looking nice for the -tohit and siphon life, but wasn't sure if just 1 target for soul drain would make it at all AMAZING as far as DPS goes.
The sounds might bother me for KM, but I don't know as I've yet to play one. -
So since the day I decided to roll my Fire/Shield this has become sort of a permanent home for me (not my first or my last scrapper, but easily my favorite toon) and I come to you asking for help.
I know I want a new melee god, but I am quite unsure as to what to make.
I'm almost completely sold on /elec, but past that I'm unsure as to my primary and even if I should be a scrapper or a brute. Not to mention I'm easily swayed, so this may still change.
I want as much ST DPS as I can get, in the worst scenario (so only fighting 1 hard target possibly). Everything else would just be icing to be honest (well, other than survivability, that is the first priority).
I've done builds, math, and looked at other's threads and builds and I still haven't seen the light...
KM seems to be the best, but then sometimes I put together chains or builds and DB comes out ahead. Not to mention KM has to leverage it's +dam
If I'm not mistaken DM leans on Soul Drain a bit much for what I'm describing here, and Kat tends to want DA for more survivability.
Then Brutes get higher survivability, higher max damage, and gloom. Whereas Scrappers get consistent damage, crits, and don't need to chase fury.
So, can anyone point me in a more correct direction? -
I thought KM was the BEST ST dps...?
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Sure no problem, thanks again.
It is the same (at least as far as I can tell) problem that others had with the previous set. It is the PBAoE bubble (Dispersion), color is irrelevant, and I think it is when it begins that pulse from top to bottom, though it may be always, I tend to avoid them like the plague.
It begins as a watering and a pain in my eyes, then it moves to a headache, and if for some reason I stick around it turns to nausea. -
I was sent here about the Sonic Resonance changes that fell through.
Any update on when they will be fixed again for the people that now have nausea/migraines from the new graphics? -
No, since i10 I (among others) GAINED an issue with sonic resonance rather than losing one