black_barrier

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fire/* is trash compared to either rad or sonic. if frozen viper can do it from his trailer, you can do it from your toilet.

Myk got laughed at when he tried to do that in the villain ladder... After that whole ban stormies chat the vill ladder guys mostly learned not to underestimate the top teams in the ladder by banning things that had once been thought 'unbettable'... Case in point: initial attempt at banning storms from the red ladder, DR trying to ban autolevel'd 50s and myk's attempt at limiting forts (followed by prodigy's legendary guide for villain pvp "doms have domination" "mind link stacks.. But only on doms".), etc.

Also in i12 I remember dual cage teams being run heroside.. Either that rule never passed or was never enforced...

No.. I proposed forts as a counter to teams with stalkers.. What if I show you a 6 man lineup with no stalkers.. Will you bring a fort? Or decide to roll with 2 extra blasters for your 7th and 8th spot... Answering that question requires a bit more knowledge of the game than what the average player has..

I do not understand what your point on the who switches first thing is, silit. The opposite team will know your first 6 picks and have no clue what you are bringing for the last two spots until the pvpec announces the full final lineup... By then you aren't allowed to switch and neither are they.. What i'm asking for is a chance at applying the knowledge involved in the countering of a lineup in a fair fashion.

Think of it as poker.. You see a few cards, then you decide what you want to do, but at the end, you get to see your opponents cards before your money's taken away...

What I'm interested in preventing is a scenario where people will always bring the same lineup based on the perceived safest option...

It would only take hours if you have downs syndrome... If you have say 3 people logged in, it takes 10 secs to check their powers.. you ask 3 others on vent and report... Not hard. At all.

And this is due at a specified time ; you should know what your running prior to 30 mins before the match assuming you are not just gonna wing it...

Even for lolujlol me and Mel kept a full roster and reporting this would have been a exercise in copy-paste-ing skillz (right clicks are haaaaaaaaaaaaard).

First and foremost, a format for reporting line-ups needs to be decided. At this point, an argument would result if a team reporting came up with "2 trollers, 2 corrs, 3 blasters, 1 veat". It tells you nothing about the lineup.

Part I:

Add:
-Lineup Reports should follow the following format.

(Number of players playing this type of toon) Primary/Secondary/Epic Archetype, (Number of players playing this type of toon) Primary/Secondary/Epic Archetype, (Number of players playing this type of toon) Primary/Secondary/Epic Archetype, (Number of players playing this type of toon) Primary/Secondary/Epic Archetype... etc.

Part 2:
-Sharks should be allowed in the ladder.

Part 3:
-Teams should be allowed 2 wild-cards on the initial reporting of their team lineup.
-Upon receipt of the first part of the lineup. These lineups are to be made public in the Arena Chat channel.
-The two wild-cards must then be reported to the PVPEC representative within a 2 minute period beginning at the announcement of the initial lineup in Arena Chat channel.

I've separated the third and second amendment under the notion that what killed the last ladder attempt was the static nature of lineups under that system. While we did not create prescribed lineups in that system, we were using settings that resulted in that. Creating a set of rules where the most optimal, general purpose lineup is the one that will most likely be reported will have essentially the same results. Teams will be bound to run the "safest bet" lineup instead of having to rely on actual knowledge of game mechanics when dealing with unexpected situations or even expected situations.

What are your in-game Globals?: @black barrier / @barrier
What characters do you have on Freedom?:

On Freedom:

i16 Spec'd
grav/kin controller
psi/em blaster
sonic/cold corruptor
rad/ice defender
sonic/therm corruptor
ice/psi dominator
spines/regen stalker
elec/ea stalker
ice/ice dominator
bots/therm mastermind


Not up to spec
fire/sonic controller
fire/kin controller
ill/emp controller
ill/ta controller
necro/storm mastermind
dark/cold corruptor
ice/kin/mace corruptor
rad/storm corruptor
fire/sonic corruptor
elec/therm corruptor
mind/fire dominator
mind/ice dominator
fire/elec dominator
fire/psi dominator
ice/psi dominator
grav/fire dominator
ss/fire brute
fire/sr brute
rad/ice defender
fortunata
fire/em blaster
bane spider
shield/em tank


current projects
elec/ta corruptor

not on freedom but transferable upon employment
wp/ss tank
mind/thorns dominator
earth/ea dominator
em/sr stalker
ninja/poison mastermind

Are you willing to respec into a PvP build?: More often than not.
Are you willing to roll a new character if needed?: Yeah.. but look at that list?
Briefly describe your PvP experience:
i wrecked project x324234badbad2334 25-0 in a 2v2 with an SO'd fire/rad as my partner.

you have to use SOs or common IOs to enhance knockup/knockdown.

it was never necessary unless you intended to farm things that mez (like nems) or do the rsf mind dom thing...



from my pve experience: the huge recharge bonuses on my fire/psi and mind/ice both make permadom totally worth it for the things i do with those.

as of i14, the last time i tested it, slotting kinetic crashes does not increase the magnitude of knock-up powers (notice i said knock-up, not knockback).

hyper, you should come to kb's.

you'll realize why 41+ protection is so critical. i've been in countless matches where the outcome has been dependent upon a single kill. you do not want to be that kill. you do not want to be a poned.

ice blast on a defender can work.

kat, i can send you my ice/ice dom build when i get back and you can take a look at how i'm slotting things for a few ideas.

basically you're gonna want to go heavy on procs, and not just the dmg ones.

the problem still is that defenders don't get hiber and you're gonna have to sacrifice perception in order to make one work. i'd really go with an ice/cold corr if i had the option (assuming you're set on ice blast). sonic is still the mother of all corruptor primaries though. stunning a emp mid spike is essentially the same as a cage.

at the same time, defender power boost + benumb coupled with a good emp that can keep perception and heals on you, means there's a good argument to be made for using a cold/ice defender in an OPTIMAL teaming situation (which is rarely the case at kickball).

Guess there's not enough interest.

Taking bids on it starting at 2 Bill then.

IO will be available on Sunday when I get back.