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There is that. So if anyone has level 53 Enzymes, now's your chance to unload them on a gullible newb before the impending nerf!

It was a rewrite of it. I didn't save it and was too lazy to search, so I wrote my own version.

I wouldn't worry about being harsh. Umbral dishes it out, so I'm sure he can take it.

One way to visualize survivability (thank you Umbral for the visualization) is as a rectangle. The width of the rectangle is damage mitigation (defense and resistance). The height of the rectangle is damage recovery (regeneration and heals). Your survivability is the AREA of this rectangle.

On a Regeneration scrapper, you have almost no damage mitigation and a metric ton of damage recovery. Your rectangle is very narrow and very tall.

Now, your damage recovery is made up of passive regeneration and active healing (or active buffs to your regeneration). On a Regen scrapper, let's say that you typically get two or three times more damage recovery from your click powers than from your passive regeneration. So you have a LOT more height from the click powers than from the passive regeneration.

On top of that, your rectangle has very little width. Adding more regeneration gives you a little more height, but the overall area is barely changing.

So your first priority is recharge, as it benefits you much more than the passive regeneration. On top of that, recharge also affects how often Moment of Glory is up, and Moment of Glory is damage mitigation, not damage recovery. So the more recharge you have overall and on Moment of Glory specifically, the WIDER your rectangle. Wider is very good, as just a little extra width will do much more than just a little extra height.

Once recharge is handled, your priority is damage mitigation - which is to say resistance (Tough, Resilience, MoG) and defense (pools, set bonuses, MoG). These help you widen the rectangle. It can take quite a bit, though. It takes 25% defense, for instance, to double the width of your rectangle. Still, if you get there, you get twice the survivability.

Tough, Resilience, Dull Pain and Moment of Glory help more than the rectangle would indicate, though, at least when things get really dangerous. Damage can come fast and furious, and all of those help you survive it long enough to click a heal or otherwise take care of things.

Back on our rectangle, let's think about Regeneration compared to all other secondaries. Regeneration has the narrowest rectangle, the least damage mitigation. That means that when you add 10% regeneration to your Regen, you're adding LESS area to your survivability rectangle than that same 10% added regeneration on ANY other secondary. So Regeneration, ironically, benefits the LEAST of all secondaries from extra regeneration. That's not to say it's bad, merely that it's a low priority.

I don't remember who came up with the numbers, and I'm not sure I ever knew the method used. But my GUESS is that it simply takes all enemies in the game (hero and villain), all attacks they use, the damage of those attacks by type, adds it all up, and reports the ratios.

Is that what you're going to specifically see in the end game? Nope. Half or more of those you'll never see, they vary by rarity, different attacks are used more often than others, and so on.

So in a sense, it's probably totally wrong. On the other hand, there's no such thing as a right answer either, and it's better than what I used to use, which was numbers that I pulled out of my ***.

The skew surprised me as well, but then thinking about it, even a lot of the other kinds of attacks have a smashing or lethal component to them. So I'm willing to believe that it's in the ballpark, and the ballpark is really all that matters in this case.

I'm not so certain that it's possible to soft cap anything but a Katana/Dark or Broad Sword/Dark, even breaking the bank, and almost certainly not without severely compromising the rest of the build. So I agree, build up some good defense if you can, but don't compromise on the strengths of the set.

Same as any other IOs, so 95% to combine a 51 with a 50, 90% to combine a 52 with a 50. It's a butt-clenching moment for sure.

The straight answer is NO, of course it isn't worth it.

In my case, I'm lowering endurance drain by 0.02 EPS, and raising my AoE defense from 44.80% to 44.96%. When you're just under the softcap, that IS the point where very small percentage differences actually have a large effect, but it'll still be pretty negligible. Let's see... my spreadsheet says that my survivability will be lower by 0.3% if I compromise here and go with level 50 Hamios. That matters to me, but in practice will NEVER make a difference.

So really, it's down to a mental defect. It would gnaw away at me if I compromised on performance, even minutely, for reasons of cost.

I know for sure I wasn't the first person to call it Arcanatime. I just liked it when I saw it, so started using it. I can't remember who first used it, unfortunately.

In real life, I look a lot like my avatar - heavy beard, flat top, well-built, middle-aged. Not enough to pose for one of those pictures of you and your character in the same costume, and I don't have the goggles and correct leathers to pose in anyway, but not so far off either.

You're an interesting case, Umbral. You are EXTRAORDINARILY helpful, but you also have ZERO tolerance for teh stoopid. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people just see the second part, and don't realize what amazing help you're providing, just how much TIME you're taking to help people, and so on. So I guess it doesn't surprise me that you're getting negative repped, but it still bothers me. In my book, you should have a massive positive rep by now.

Ah, well. I figure the rep thing is practically a joke anyway. I'll trust people based on my personal experience with them, but I guess that doesn't work for anyone new.

Sorry for drifting off topic, dume.

Even if you simply ask "can I do this?" you aren't likely to just get a yes or no answer. We will also give you our opinions on why that is or isn't a good idea. I don't see that as forcing anyone to play our way. To me, that is simply due dilligence on the part of someone answering a question.

Getting specific, you didn't say you were making a concept build. You didn't say you didn't want anyone's opinion on whether what you wanted to do was a good idea or not. And frankly, advice on what is and isn't a good idea is what most people asking about builds are here for. With no other indication, we assume you want to be as strong as you can be, and would appreciate advice in that direction.

"I want something abstract" isn't very clear. You indicate that you don't care about DPS, so I guess everyone can stop mentioning DPS concerns. But it doesn't tell us that the ONLY thing you wanted us to do was give you a simple yes or no answer to the question "Can I run this chain."

So I don't know what exactly you read and how exactly you read it to go off on everyone trying to help you, give you advice, and answer your questions. I suppose there was a sense of "what the hell are you doing?" to some comments. But as far as the actual information provided, people made reasonable assumptions about what you wanted, and those assumptions simply turned out to be wrong. You did nothing to head off those assumptions, and very little to correct them up to the point of exploding.

That's how I saw it as someone who didn't contribute to the thread, anyway. Apparently it all played out differently from your end.

Play how you want. I honestly don't think anyone cares if you WANT to play a concept build. We're all here to have fun, and everyone has fun in different ways.

I'm not sure if I'd call what I did rigorous. I'd been anticipating your post because some of us had been talking about the "lag" between attacks. I estimated it at about .175 seconds per attack based on the number of attacks I could get in a Build Up cycle, which wasn't too far off. I think it was Shred Monkey that said you were about to publish something on the subject.

I'm also not sure how soon I actually tested anything. I THINK I plugged it all in almost immediately to get my DPS, then ran and fought a pylon on a couple builds to see how well it worked, and it worked very well. Or maybe I already had pylon results, so I knew my true DPS, and it matched. I don't really remember.

Not yet, but I'm sure it's a matter of time. Although I usually try to be diplomatic, sometimes I just lose my mind and go off. Fortunately rare. And based on the things I've heard of people being negative repped for, I could post a very helpful, informative post that was exactly what someone needed and wanted, and STILL get negative repped. Just about anything can set people off, and this is a public forum without the benefit of visual cues, tone of voice, and so on.

"The rule of five" is that you only get the benefit from five of any specific set bonus. You can't have SIX of any specific bonus; five is fine. So you can use and benefit from five Kinetic Combat sets. Mids' will even tell you when you're over the limit on any specific bonus if you click the View Active Sets button.

Seriously? Somebody negative repped you for comments about building a Dual Blades to solo AVs? In leetspeak? Lame. Positive repping you in an attempt to offset.