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Are you talking about using a Storm>Crippling>FB attack string because the one you list is impossible, unless you found a way to have Storm Kick recharge as soon as you use it. If you're talking about Storm>Crippling>FB, the build you provided couldn't even run that because CAK would need to recharge in 2.508 seconds when it recharges in 3.45 seconds. Assuming you pumped the build full of enough recharge to run that attack string, you'd be getting 182.16 DPS, which is substantially less than you should be getting considering the investment to get to that point.|
Originally Posted by Swift_Frost
Storm Kick > Crippling > Fire Blast > Storm Kick?
my ma/regen is already 50 and what not just curious how that chain would be for just like lvl 50 missions? |
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what about doing tk>fb>sk>cak?
would that be able to be run smoothly?
i tweaked the build heres the chunk
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thanks for the input
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Yeah, you would be able to run that smoothly. Would I want to? No. That's only 143 DPS. You'd do much better just grabbing Hasten and switching to the normal Storm>CAK>Storm>Crane attack string. Fire Blast is actually worse DPS than any of those attacks so including it isn't going to improve anything (Mids' doesn't calculate the bonus DoT damage correctly, it inflates the value).|
Originally Posted by Swift_Frost
what about doing tk>fb>sk>cak?
would that be able to be run smoothly? |
Here's the an I15 MA/Regen build I made. It's not entirely up to date (probably going to ditch FA, Hurdle, Health, and Stamina for CP, Physical Perfection, Maneuvers, and Tactics), but it should show you something to aim for. You're definitely going to want to get more defense and recharge than your existing build had going for it. With defense, I generally recommend that you get at least 20% +def or don't bother. For recharge, more is always better. You're going to want to get 130% at the very least, just to be able to run the attack string I gave you, because Storm Kick might not have 95% +rech in some slotting set ups.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Hectmb-Dam%(5), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(29)
Level 2: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Dct'dW-Rchg(9)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(11), EndMod-I(11)
Level 6: Focus Chi -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(13), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 8: Crane Kick -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(13), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(15), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), T'Death-Dam%(17)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal(21), Dct'dW-Rchg(21)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), Zephyr-Travel(23), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(25), Zephyr-ResKB(25)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(27), Zephyr-ResKB(27)
Level 16: Integration -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal(29), Numna-Heal/Rchg(31)
Level 18: Crippling Axe Kick -- T'Death-Acc/Dmg(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(31), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), T'Death-Dam%(33)
Level 20: Boxing -- Amaze-Stun/Rchg(A), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(48), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(48), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(50), Amaze-ToHitDeb%(50)
Level 22: Tough -- ImpArm-ResDam(A), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(34), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), ImpArm-ResDam/Rchg(34)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 26: Dragon's Tail -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-%Dam(39)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(40), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Dct'dW-Rchg(42)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 32: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 35: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43), RechRdx-I(43), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 41: Focused Accuracy -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-Build%(42), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(45), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(45), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(46)
Level 44: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(46)
Level 47: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(48), Zephyr-ResKB(50)
Level 49: Resilience -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
but thats the thing i want something abstract...for this character i dont care about dps....ive got my claws/sr for that lol
No Eagle's Claw or Crane Kick?
I really can't see you being happy with this build.
My MA advice = Take Thunder, Storm, Crane, Dragon, and Eagle. Those are core. You always want the first two attacks for when mezzed.
I don't know enough about Regen to comment, though I do have a BS/Regen who is very fun.
I'm not sure what you mean by abstract. Is there a specific concept for this character?
Virtue: @Santorican
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Originally Posted by Postagulous
No Eagle's Claw or Crane Kick?
I really can't see you being happy with this build. My MA advice = Take Thunder, Storm, Crane, Dragon, and Eagle. Those are core. You always want the first two attacks for when mezzed. I don't know enough about Regen to comment, though I do have a BS/Regen who is very fun. |
Virtue: @Santorican
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Originally Posted by Santorican
Blaster boards are a few sections up, Scrappers only get mezzed in PvP
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first off abstract meaning going against the grain in the sense not grabbing the actual powers and just doing something fun with it.
all of you want everyone to conform to your playstyle and how you want things to be specced. if you want to do that fine just dont do it in my topics. i wanted to know if that chain would work...since i failed to see that it wouldnt i was shown the error in my ways and tweaked it. and when it was tweaked and it worked and i was happy...but none of you are happy until people play it your way and how you want it done. im sorry for me lashing out but i will play and build my builds the way "I" see fit.
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Originally Posted by Swift_Frost
first off abstract meaning going against the grain in the sense not grabbing the actual powers and just doing something fun with it.
all of you want everyone to conform to your playstyle and how you want things to be specced. if you want to do that fine just dont do it in my topics. i wanted to know if that chain would work...since i failed to see that it wouldnt i was shown the error in my ways and tweaked it. and when it was tweaked and it worked and i was happy...but none of you are happy until people play it your way and how you want it done. im sorry for me lashing out but i will play and build my builds the way "I" see fit. |
That is the beauty of this game you play how you want and you can still be successful at it. So don't mind those that tell how you should play but take from it what you need and smile.
Virtue: @Santorican
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*double-checks* hmm, I don't appear to be in the WoW forums... |
Originally Posted by Swift_Frost
all of you want everyone to conform to your playstyle and how you want things to be specced.
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Even if you simply ask "can I do this?" you aren't likely to just get a yes or no answer. We will also give you our opinions on why that is or isn't a good idea. I don't see that as forcing anyone to play our way. To me, that is simply due dilligence on the part of someone answering a question.|
Originally Posted by Swift_Frost
all of you want everyone to conform to your playstyle and how you want things to be specced. if you want to do that fine just dont do it in my topics. i wanted to know if that chain would work...since i failed to see that it wouldnt i was shown the error in my ways and tweaked it. and when it was tweaked and it worked and i was happy...but none of you are happy until people play it your way and how you want it done. im sorry for me lashing out but i will play and build my builds the way "I" see fit.
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Getting specific, you didn't say you were making a concept build. You didn't say you didn't want anyone's opinion on whether what you wanted to do was a good idea or not. And frankly, advice on what is and isn't a good idea is what most people asking about builds are here for. With no other indication, we assume you want to be as strong as you can be, and would appreciate advice in that direction.
"I want something abstract" isn't very clear. You indicate that you don't care about DPS, so I guess everyone can stop mentioning DPS concerns. But it doesn't tell us that the ONLY thing you wanted us to do was give you a simple yes or no answer to the question "Can I run this chain."
So I don't know what exactly you read and how exactly you read it to go off on everyone trying to help you, give you advice, and answer your questions. I suppose there was a sense of "what the hell are you doing?" to some comments. But as far as the actual information provided, people made reasonable assumptions about what you wanted, and those assumptions simply turned out to be wrong. You did nothing to head off those assumptions, and very little to correct them up to the point of exploding.
That's how I saw it as someone who didn't contribute to the thread, anyway. Apparently it all played out differently from your end.
Play how you want. I honestly don't think anyone cares if you WANT to play a concept build. We're all here to have fun, and everyone has fun in different ways.
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Not to mention since you're already lvl 50 it would probably do you more good to actually try the chain yourself and see if it works/if you like it instead of asking what other people think, especially if it's "abstract".
Personal experience > other people's advice 99.9% of the time.
but this wasnt a can i get suggestions and opinions thread....this was a question related to an attack chain, which i got answered twice because i asked it 2 times then it went into a suggestions thread. i didnt ask for them therefore i dont think it was warranted. maybe its just me because i ended up quitting games because i didnt want suggestions and or opinions about something i didnt ask for. ive seen the builds for the other attack chains for ma...but like i said i was going for abstract chains that most of you number crucnhers max minners would steer clear of. i only asked if they would work. if yall fail to relize that ill steer clear of these forums like i was doing to begin with.
"I want something abstract" isn't very clear. You indicate that you don't care about DPS, so I guess everyone can stop mentioning DPS concerns. But it doesn't tell us that the ONLY thing you wanted us to do was give you a simple yes or no answer to the question "Can I run this chain."
the following statement is very clear, it states i wanted to know about this chain and this chain only...which was answered wonderfully by umbral. then the second time which is also quoted shows again i only wanted info on the second modified attack chain, which again was answered beautifully by umbral in which i replied thanks for the input.
everyone else decied to add there own opinion and what not. i shoulda said that my questions were answered after umbrals last post thats my fault. its obvious tho noone actually read the original post tho
"Storm Kick > Crippling > Fire Blast > Storm Kick?
my ma/regen is already 50 and what not just curious how that chain would be for just like lvl 50 missions?
heres the build" werner is this clear enough for you? also> "what about doing tk>fb>sk>cak?
would that be able to be run smoothly?"
itll make all parties happy. requesting that this be deleted, it went way off topic.
There is no reason for you to get worked up over a misunderstanding, being more descriptive as to what you want will clear up any future misunderstandings. What might be clear to you can be vague to someone else. So sit, stay awhile, have a cup made from the heads of your dead enemies and let us all enjoy the torture that we bring. 
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
One mistake you made: you posted your build. See, there's some people on the forums who just love picking apart builds, and if you don't want that don't post the build.
I did that once. I had a specific question and I posted my build because I thought it would help in letting people give me an answer, but I also said I wasn't looking for any other tweaks or suggestions beyond my question. Well for some reason this actually pissed off a few people who were somehow offended that I was trying to "dictate" what help they could and couldn't give me
Some people seem to like to help so much they're gonna stick a funnel in your mouth and force feed you their help whether you like it or not 
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Originally Posted by Swift_Frost
first off abstract meaning going against the grain in the sense not grabbing the actual powers and just doing something fun with it.
all of you want everyone to conform to your playstyle and how you want things to be specced. if you want to do that fine just dont do it in my topics. i wanted to know if that chain would work...since i failed to see that it wouldnt i was shown the error in my ways and tweaked it. and when it was tweaked and it worked and i was happy...but none of you are happy until people play it your way and how you want it done. im sorry for me lashing out but i will play and build my builds the way "I" see fit. |
The scrapper boards is a happy place where you can talk numbers then turn around and talk about flipping out and killing all in perfect harmony.
"All problems can be solved by throwing enough scrappers at it."
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I find it very good that ppl actually bother to comment and give their suggestions to builds. Of course, every one plays their own char and makes their own builds. But, its nice to get ideas out of other builds also.
(And, many eyes see better than one!)
I dont think noone here has said how you should make your build. It is totally different to have opinions and stand behind them. Thou, some do that more vigorously than others.
Anyway, i also have a MA/regen, so... Have a build close what Umbral posted apart the purples and LotG +recharges (been poor, i know those are nice). Dont have the unique +recov and regen stuff either 
Have to say even w/o them, it works pretty good. The dmg is so-so (imo) but its very survivable and even i can do +2/8 with that solo.
(i think i have only ~15% defenses atm) Oh, dont have the -4 KB Zephyrs either and i think im planning to take PP too. (lvl 48 atm, and have haste already so thats lvl 49 i think)
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Whoa... Chill out. People here trying to help. This isn't Praetoria. No one is putting a gun to your head saying "build it like this or die!" Go sip something, take a pill, or go do yoga or something. Whatever you need to do to calm down.
The scrapper boards is a happy place where you can talk numbers then turn around and talk about flipping out and killing all in perfect harmony. |
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Storm Kick > Crippling > Fire Blast > Storm Kick?
my ma/regen is already 50 and what not just curious how that chain would be for just like lvl 50 missions?
heres the build
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Iron Kick: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Martial Arts
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Storm Kick -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7)
Level 1: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(7), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(9), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(9), RgnTis-Regen+:30(11), Mrcl-Heal:40(33)
Level 2: Reconstruction -- Dct'dW-Heal:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(13), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(13), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(15), RechRdx-I:50(15)
Level 4: Quick Recovery -- Efficacy-EndMod:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(17), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:50(17), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:50(19), P'Shift-End%:50(21)
Level 6: Focus Chi -- GSFC-ToHit:50(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(19), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(21), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:50(23), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx:50(23), Empty(25)
Level 8: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 10: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(25), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(27), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
Level 12: Boxing -- Dmg-I:50(A)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(31), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(31)
Level 16: Integration -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33)
Level 18: Crippling Axe Kick -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(33), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36)
Level 20: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:50(36), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:50(37), P'Shift-End%:50(37)
Level 22: Kick -- Dmg-I:50(A)
Level 24: Resilience -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(50)
Level 26: Weave -- RedFtn-Def:50(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:50(37), RedFtn-Def/Rchg:50(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(39), RedFtn-EndRdx:50(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(40)
Level 28: Instant Healing -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(40), RechRdx-I:50(40)
Level 30: Dragon's Tail -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(42), M'Strk-Acc/EndRdx:50(43), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 32: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(43), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(43), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(45)
Level 35: Assault -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(45)
Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(46)
Level 41: Char -- Dmg-I:50(A)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg:40(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(46), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(48), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(48), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(48), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 49: Super Jump -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals: