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This would put a whole new shine on CoH for me...

Old thread is oooooooooooooooold.

Thread Necromancy/Bumps sets ftw!

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Your 'sources'?

Do tell.

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If I revealed my sources then they'd be your sources, maybe our sources, but they're not, the clue is in the name, 'my sources'.

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Your disgruntled SG friends then?

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Woah, you got it in one Columbo. You're good!

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They don't call him Shervox Holmes for nothing
Well, actually, I don't think they do call him Shervox Holmes - not generally, anyway - but if they did call him that, then it sure wouldn't be for nothing.

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It was elementary my dear GG.

Whenever somebody on the internet claims to have 'sources', what they meant to type was 'some random friends of mine that have nothing to do with the subject'.

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Your 'sources'?

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If I revealed my sources then they'd be your sources, maybe our sources, but they're not, the clue is in the name, 'my sources'.

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Your disgruntled SG friends then?

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Thats about right for EU staff, had you been on a US server that would have been sorted for you within the hour.

Your lucky they didnt tell you to upgrade your drivers in French.

Or blame it on ya ISP.

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as bad as this sounds it matchs up with alot of my experiances to the point when i get a problem on the eu servers unless its huge i tend to ignore it and keep gamin, but similar things i would ignore here i wouldnt think twice about sending a peition for over on the us servers

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Poor show to hear that other people have had similar experiences. I was hoping to find that I was in a minority.

My sources tell me that in the not too distant future there will be some kind of merging with the US (although unclear what form that will take). And although I'd never wish redundancy on anyone I will not bat an eyelid when I no longer have to rely on the EU staff for any assistance required.

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Your 'sources'?

Do tell.

All these posts and nobody made a "CoX in Macs" joke?

Zortel, I'm looking at you.

Oh carppity carppity carp. I forgot about this. Have no money to go

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saying that clicking and running is against the rules is crazy.
there's nothing on the Halloween Event post on the main page of the site to indicate you must fight the mobs you spawn. In fact, there are probably ways that the devs can make it so you have to do just that.
the way the game works allows you to click and run and get a whole convoy of beasties at your tail chasing you through the streets and right into other players.

of course, it's rude as hell, and i'd like to think that most of us wouldn't do it, but there's nothing i see in the EULA that says you can't do it.

i've been a victim to this myself and it's annoying, but i've also clicked a few doors and ran myself. when i did it i did run towards some nice purple police drones mind you, or earlier today i clicked a couple doors next to a full team whom i'd helped clear up a previous mob. i ran but i'm sure that 8 characters could handle my single toon's mob a heck of a lot better than he could (ta/a defenders are not really designed with ToT-or any kind of solo play for that matter-in mind)

so-is it a crappy thing to do? yes
is it against the rules? no

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It is against the rules when the person is trying to get you killed by their mob, which the guy who did it to us was doing.

That's called griefing and it's covered in the rules.

It's interesting that the people who have less of a problem with this are the same people who say they do it but that they 'drag the mob over to a drone'.

Very interesting.

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It has merely been pointed out that by moving to another zone would have stopped him from greifing and allowed you to have continued ToTing, with only the scenery different. Not an ideal solution but the best one we have at the moment.

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Personally, I'd favour the suggestion (as mentioned by Standoff) of having the Halloween mobs always con white à la Rikti invasion mobs and the like.

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It would probably be the quickest and easiest solution to it. Doesn't stop them clicking doors in front of others but it does mean that the griefed have a chance at beating the mob.

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This is not a thread asking for sympathy and I find it incredibly offensive that you'd think so, ESPECIALLY considering all the posts YOU made complaining about the lack of players and suggesting a server merge.

The only solution to this problem is to stop the griefers from being able to do what they're doing, not to let them get away with it.

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And I was greated with there is no problems replys from many on that subject and have discontinued that avenue of discussion at GhostRapors request, however I feel about the subject.

And yes the only to stop this problem is to stop the greifers but the method you have suggested encroaches on other peoples play style that are not causing harm. It has merely been pointed out that by moving to another zone would have stopped him from greifing and allowed you to have continued ToTing, with only the scenery different. Not an ideal solution but the best one we have at the moment.

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It wouldn't have stopped him from griefing, it would have stopping him from griefing ME and I don't run from problems thanks, I'd rather figure out a way to stop them that would be beneficial for everyone who doesn't grief.

The second solution I posted doesn't encroach on your play style UNLESS you want to grief people.

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It is when there is already another thread about this subject. That would be entitled Grandville Idiots. And IMS GhostRaptor has told people what to do in there.

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I erroneously thought the other thread was specifically a complaint against Grandville griefers. I started this one as a general post about it and to post a suggestion on how to cut it out. I have no problem with it being merged, as long as at least one of the suggestions is taken into account and the devs do something about this for next year.

That one incident though was enough to sour the whole experience for me so I don't really feel like taking part in the event anymore. Make of that what you will.

I just don't know WHY some people have to be so horrible.

On the flip side, Mother's Love came down to those two same characters earlier in the evening and healed us both, which was really nice.

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Ummm think my post was more designed to point out that it may be annoying but isnt the end of the world. As I stated there were other zones available and at least 1 (there is also Perez) where the offender would have been unable to continue the harrasment.

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It happened once, that was enough for me, I didn't 'continue being a victim', I logged out because it annoyed me so much.

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It is one thing being a victim it is another thing continually allowing yourself to be a victim. My anger at the thread is the replys of why should we, which can be equally applied to people that are running and clicking. The only thing that differs is the harrasment element that the other player was causing. If you fail to make any attempt to stop someone griefing you then you deserve what you get in my book.

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Well funnily enough I petitioned them and have suggested a way that will stop them from griefing, I didn't just run away and ignore the problem, like you obviously would have done.

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And the point of raising this thread is what? To inform us that there is people that cause grief and harrass other players. We all know that? That the ToT event has a flaw that is exploitable by griefers? Again we and the devs know that.

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Yes, they know that but they haven't taken enough action to STOP it. It happened last year and the changes they've made haven't worked, so obviously they need to know that they need to do more.

I didn't have to make this thread? YOU didn't have to reply to it.

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If the thread was along the lines of OMG just been griefed ToTing in Steel. Does anyone have any suggestions of how to stop this? Then I would take a better veiw of the thread, but it just seems to have been created as a poor us thread please lay sympathy on us, as valid suggestions have been made of how to not let this occur to them again by myself and others and they have been greated with replies of why should we. Well if you dont like it or someone is being griefed there is no there is no other way to stop this other than petitioning atm and then either logging (griefer wins) or moving to another zone.

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This is not a thread asking for sympathy and I find it incredibly offensive that you'd think so, ESPECIALLY considering all the posts YOU made complaining about the lack of players and suggesting a server merge.

The only solution to this problem is to stop the griefers from being able to do what they're doing, not to let them get away with it.

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ToT in another zone then one that does not go up to lvl 20 why not try your own lvl range zone like skyway?

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What Morgana said.

*sighs*

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Thought it would be clear if you go into a zone with a much higher lvl range than what you are go to a lower lvl zone its easy.

Also im sure unless you attack the mob in question they will leave you alone and carry on after the player who spawned them so you must have attacked.

Not saying what was done was right but it will happen some are like at lest in a lower lvl zone you wont have the risk of higher lvl mobs left behind

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The guy ran up to the door and sped away as soon as he'd clicked on it, the mobs just went after us. I don't know if that's because he'd already gone way out of their range and we were the nearest or whatever, but it's happened to other people so, whatever.

Why should I have to stay out of a zone because of one guy who is breaking the rules?

If the Devs followed your way of thinking then every exploiter and griefer would just get away with exploting and griefing.

We were fine and happy until this [censored] came along and spoiled it.

The devs were told last year about the griefers and they've done barely anything to fix it and it's soured the event for me.

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ToT in another zone then one that does not go up to lvl 20 why not try your own lvl range zone like skyway?

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What Morgana said.

*sighs*

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MA has started a thread very similar to this here.
Ghostraptor and others have mentioned petitioning this and screenshots help too. It is a pain though that in zones like Steel Canyon this can happen due to the wide level gap

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Yeah, I saw that thread, I probably should have posted it there but I was too annoyed to think properly. Sorry guys.

I think I'm going to just give the rest of the Halloween event a miss, I'd been away from the game for about a month and I'd just started enjoying playing again and now I've gone back to feeling jaded. Don't want to log back in.

Yeah I know, toys out of pram and all that.

I'm getting Fable 2 so I'd probably not be on much anyway.

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tl;dr version:

My sig.

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Correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought in previous years you couldn't ToT in zones that you out leveled, so therefore you couldn't release lvl 50 werewolves in Atlas Park for example.

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He was level 20 in Steel. Obviously Steel runs at least up to level 20.

Okay something really needs to be changed with the Halloween spawns. Just had a level 20 with SS run up to the door Morgana and I were stood outside on our level 10 and 12 respectively and click it causing a purple werewolf to run out and kill me.

He then tried dragging the mobs over to Morgana's character in order to get her killed.

I've petitioned him for griefing but I'm seriously [censored] off that this can happen. Next time this is run the devs NEED to make it so people cannot run from their mobs. Someone like that needs to be made to stay at the door and take care of his trick.

MAKE it so that travel powers are surpressed when you click and after a second you're stuck and can't run away. Or make it so that someone who cllicks a door and who either doesn't die to their mob or doesn't finish off their mob loses inf or xp or SOMETHING so that they stop doing this stupid [censored].

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Yay for the return of the comic! (If it ever happens!)

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I really hope that's not it.

I mean, the artwork would be great but the writing?

I'd much rather he be working on designs for future game improvements. If I want comics, I'll go to my comic shop and buy them.

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Pretty soon after we'v seen his work i think we'll all be

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Here's an example:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nnundFeuer.jpg

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nice Both yours and shadowes pics seem to be very good. If its the one i think it is, iv seen some of his artwork already and lets be fair . . . . . that talent is always welcome here. Good catch!

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Absolutely. I'm really looking forward to I15 now, I'm hoping for a big announcement.

I think we're supposed to be getting something else this week aren't we? According to the article in the OP:

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With Alex 'Lighthouse' Von Minden alluding to new announcements in the pipeline - 'we have some other news this week besides Issue 13, but you'll have to wait to find out' - and now this prestigious new hire, City of Heroes players will be wondering just what their development team is planning.

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Can't wait!

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Pretty soon after we'v seen his work i think we'll all be

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Here's an example:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...nnundFeuer.jpg

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhh.... Now I'm intrigued!

Edit: Actually nm, it's obvious from the NCNC.

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The only prob I have is that someone has the cheek to rip off a well known character from another game. /petitioned

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You can't really copyright being bald, in a suit and wielding a gun, unless your name is also 'Hitman' or some kind of copy of his Codename 47.

What should be petitioned is the Ace Rimmer in there. Not out of any sense of legal ramifications, but more because people with such an insulting lack of inspiration and imagination deserve bad things.

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Ace.Rimmer and Pe.Ace Rimmer are my toons.
I didn't make them due to a lack of imagination, check out my other toons for proof of that. I made them because I'm a fan of Red Dwarf and the Ace Rimmer character and wanted to pay homage to them both.

Flame me if you want, or even petition me if you feel the need. I will say though I've received far more tells with a positive tone for the charecter than a negative one.

Honestly, does it really matter?

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I would petition you the minute I saw you. The whole reason for petitioning characters like yours is that the company who owns the character you've ripped off can sue NCSoft if they wanted to over unlawful use of the name.

Do we need to bring up the Marvel thing again?

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Good for you.
Can you reach the keyboard from your pedestal though?

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Hah, god you're funny.

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The only prob I have is that someone has the cheek to rip off a well known character from another game. /petitioned

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You can't really copyright being bald, in a suit and wielding a gun, unless your name is also 'Hitman' or some kind of copy of his Codename 47.

What should be petitioned is the Ace Rimmer in there. Not out of any sense of legal ramifications, but more because people with such an insulting lack of inspiration and imagination deserve bad things.

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Ace.Rimmer and Pe.Ace Rimmer are my toons.
I didn't make them due to a lack of imagination, check out my other toons for proof of that. I made them because I'm a fan of Red Dwarf and the Ace Rimmer character and wanted to pay homage to them both.

Flame me if you want, or even petition me if you feel the need. I will say though I've received far more tells with a positive tone for the charecter than a negative one.

Honestly, does it really matter?

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I would petition you the minute I saw you. One of the main reasons for petitioning characters like yours is that the company who owns the character you've ripped off can sue NCSoft if they wanted to over unlawful use of the name.

Do we need to bring up the Marvel thing again?

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Unless mistaken, all of the above. Being in a specific (i.e. train station and so forth) location also counts as being on patrol.

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No, On Patrol is only when you're not in any of the other specific places.

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The initial release said you are always on patrol, didn't say anything about not being on patrol if you log out at a job.

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Just reading about it again, On Patrol appears to be the 'rested xp' system, so the badge is probably tied into that.

Vox could hold his own until he ran out of end, then he started struggling.

Vox is a Sonic/Devices Blaster.

I was fine if I could keep the mines and the Auto Turret up, but once you miss one attempt at placing them and they start attacking you, you don't get another chance to drop something.